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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:06 AM
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The mess at MSNBC: "A history of objectionable comments to and about women"
Media Matters for America: The mess at MSNBC
Jamison Foser

Three weeks ago, in the wake of Chris Matthews' quasi-apology for one of his countless objectionable comments about women in general and Hillary Clinton specifically, I argued that Matthews' apology was not enough. Neither Matthews nor MSNBC had acknowledged that the problem ran far deeper than one comment by Matthews -- and their failure to make such an acknowledgement was an ominous sign that the apology would not be accompanied by a change in behavior, no matter how forcefully Matthews insisted: "I get it." So what has happened in those three weeks?...Matthews' MSNBC colleagues leapt to his defense. Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough and reporter David Shuster lashed out; Scarborough declaring it "offensive" and "outrageous" that Matthews had to apologize, and Shuster adding "this is absolutely infuriating, to see the way these groups used him for pure political gain is absolutely infuriating."...Then, after defending their colleague, it was back to business as usual for NBC/MSNBC reporters.

Tim Russert suggested that there is irony in a "self-avowed feminist" having shown "some emotion," as though feminists are the dour, humorless beings Rush Limbaugh and Tucker Carlson think they are....And then there's MSNBC host Tucker Carlson, who has described Hillary Clinton as "whining" and suggested the reason there are so few women in Congress is that "most women are so sensible, they don't want to get involved in something as stupid as politics" and said of Clinton, "When she comes on television, I involuntarily cross my legs," and described her as "castrating, overbearing, and scary."...On January 23, an (all-male) Morning Joe panel laughed along as Mike Barnicle compared Hillary Clinton to "everyone's first wife standing outside a probate court."

Then on January 30, Joe Scarborough told co-host Mika Brzezinski, "Mika, don't make me backhand you."

On February 4, Matthews led a panel discussion of what the Associated Press described as Clinton's "emotional reunion Monday with a colleague from the early days of her legal career as a child advocate." The discussion featured a suggestion that Clinton had cried on purpose in order to win votes the next day, a statement by Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson that "with some people it's sad movies ... with Hillary Clinton ... it's an impending primary. It just breaks her down." Even Chris Matthews seemed to understand that something might not be quite right about the obsessive focus on Clinton showing emotion; near the end of the discussion, he said, "I wonder what (sic) we're focusing more on this than we would if it were a male candidate."...

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Most recently, David Shuster said on the February 7 edition of Tucker that "there's just something a little bit unseemly" about Chelsea Clinton contacting super delegates on behalf of her mother, adding, "Doesn't it seem like Chelsea's sort of being pimped out in some weird sort of way?"

This morning, Shuster offered a Matthews-esque quasi-apology for analogizing Chelsea Clinton to a prostitute. But, like Matthews, Shuster didn't seem to "get it." Shuster first claimed to have praised Chelsea Clinton on Tucker: "I said a lot of wonderful things about Chelsea. I praised her; I said Americans should be proud of her. ... as I said last night, everybody, all of us, love Chelsea Clinton." In fact, Shuster had not said Americans should be proud of her, or that "everybody, all of us, love Chelsea Clinton." Not even close.

Then Shuster reiterated that Chelsea Clinton's efforts on Hillary Clinton's behalf are "unseemly" -- though, again, he did not explain why they are unseemly, or whether it was unseemly for Mitt Romney's sons to campaign on his behalf. Finally, Shuster got to the real issue: "Last night, I used a phrase -- some slang about her efforts. I didn't think that people would take it literally, but some people have." That's just ridiculous. Nobody took Shuster's statement that Chelsea Clinton is "being pimped out" literally. Nobody. People were bothered that he analogized her to a prostitute, not that they thought he was actually saying she has sex in exchange for money....

This afternoon, NBC News President Steve Capus issued a statement calling Shuster's comments "irresponsible and inappropriate" and announcing that Shuster "has been suspended from appearing on all NBC News broadcasts" other than to make another apology, which aired tonight. Shuster then offered a more complete apology at the beginning of the February 8 edition of Tucker. Capus' statement is the best sign yet that NBC News is beginning to take seriously the lengthy pattern of inappropriate comments about women made by NBC and MSNBC reporters. (NBC News did not issue a statement about Matthews, allowing Matthews' overly narrow, on-air quasi-apology to stand as the closest thing to an official statement.) But apologies and statements and even suspensions don't mean anything unless they are followed by an actual change in behavior. Things didn't change at NBC/MSNBC after the Matthews controversy; hopefully they will this time....

http://mediamatters.org/items/200802080011?f=h_top
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:16 AM
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1. Thank for posting this.
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:20 AM
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2. I've stopped watching NBC/MSNBC because of such behavior,
and I'm running out of alternatives. So I get most of my news on-line, including DU.
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:31 AM
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4. Me too.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:21 AM
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3. As Compared To The History Of Faux News
and its history of objectionable comments? Why do we want to disparage the one MSM that is coming around?
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:09 AM
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6. Because, apparently, progressives love throwing out the baby with the bath water ON PRINCIPLE! n/t
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:51 AM
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7. Hi, Berry!
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 10:53 AM by DeepModem Mom
As I think you know, I post articles without comment, and often don't agree with the gist of the article I post. This from Media Matters, however, I pretty much agree with. Keith is not mentioned anywhere in the entire lengthy article -- no examples of sexism from him are cited.

I have myself contacted MSNBC, as have many here, about Tweety. I think, in fairness, Tweety has "cleaned up his act" bigtime since he finally went so far that he may have inadvertently spearheaded a press backfire that won Hillary New Hampshire. And I was watching, for example, when he asked the financial reporter -- Erin whats-her-name -- to lean in closer to the camera so he could leer at her. I've heard stuff from Barnicle on-air, and just recently I contacted "Morning Joe" after Joe ridiculed Mika Brzezinski for an opinion she expressed. I made the point that he treats her like a child. He joshes with the male guests, locker-room type stuff, making fun of personal quirks, but with Mika, he ridicules her opinions.

While I adore Keith, and applaud Abrams, etc., for allowing a liberal bent (and contact MSNBC with appreciation), I really can't countenance the pattern of what I see as sexism on the network. I could stop watching, but I do like much of what they have on the air, especially KO and the extensive political coverage. IMO, they should go forward with the success they are experiencing, leaving behind sexism and what I (an Obama supporter) see as a double standard applied to the first female candidate from either party to be counted among the frontrunners for the Presidency.
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:54 AM
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5. Please, MSNBC, do us all a favor.
Put down the shovels. Your hole is large enough.
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