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Jerseygirltoo Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:41 AM
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Did we bomb a hospital or not?-compare BBC with NY Times
US strikes raze Falluja hospital according to this article
from yesterday.
A hospital has been razed to the ground in one of the heaviest US air raids in the Iraqi city of Falluja.
Witnesses said only the facade remained of the small Nazzal Emergency Hospital in the centre of the city. There are no reports on casualties.
The air strikes reduced the Nazzal hospital, run by a Saudi Arabian Islamic charity, to rubble.
Hospital officials quoted by Reuters news agency say all the contents were ruined.


However, the NY Times seems to be avoiding saying that.
They only mention the hospital at the tail end of this long article, and here's what they say:
Rockets struck a new hospital in Falluja that was ready to open its doors, destroying it on Saturday. Jassim Muhammad, a resident who witnessed the attack, said he did not believe that anyone was inside at the time. Mr. Muhammad said American aircraft passed twice over the area during the attack.
A spokesman for the First Marine Expeditionary Force said in an e-mail message that American aircraft were striking targets in Falluja on Saturday evening. "The targets pertain to defensive measures put in place by the insurgency as well as known weapons cache sites in Falluja," the spokesman said. "A hospital was not on the target list."





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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:44 AM
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1. It would seem that they both agree
that the hospital was destroyed, the only difference is that the NYT is quoting a USMC spokesman that it wasn't directly targeted.

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Jerseygirltoo Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:55 AM
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5. You are missing the point
You don't reduce a hospital to rubble by accident. They did target the hospital obviously, but the USMC is denying it, so the Times is avoiding blaming it on them. They say 'rockets' hit the hospital, not planes.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 10:57 AM
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8. Another point you missed...
The BBC makes the incident a headline. The NYT buries it.

This identifies the growing gap in how the rest of the world views US actions and how those same actions are regarded here. The divide is growing. This particular discrepancy makes that case in point.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:46 AM
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2. Denial of medical care to the insurgents is what its called.
Nothing personal. Just war as usual.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:49 AM
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3. I do not see a substantial disagreement between the two
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Jerseygirltoo Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:51 AM
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4. NY Times says 'rockets' struck the hospital
Read it carefully. Usually rockets implies the insurgents are the ones attacking. Planes don't shoot rockets, they drop bombs.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:02 AM
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6. No problem.
Cough up another $5 million for Halliburton to build a new clinic that only costs $1 million. Makes the Halli stockholders really happy.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 10:00 AM
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7. bombing hospitals is a moral value
in the new united states of jesusland
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