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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:40 AM
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Dean / Ron Paul Ticket?
"Though Ron Paul is beloved by partisans from multiple parties, he's often relegated to the "back benches" in serious politics. This may change soon as there are rumors that he's on grassroots darling Howard Dean's short list for a presidential running-mate."

Source: http://www.cryptonomicon.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=489


Big grain of salt... Anyone else hearing these "rumors?" :shrug:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:43 AM
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1. I'm hesitant because he's a libertarian turned republican...
...or am I confusing him with someone else?

However, I'd listen to Dean's reasoning for it should it ever come to pass.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:43 AM
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2. Ron Paul voted against the IWR...
Edited on Thu Oct-09-03 11:44 AM by LuminousX
he could definately help galvanize the anti-war vote.

on edit (had to verify):
But he is a Republican. I doubt he will switch parties.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:47 AM
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3. Gawd, I hope not
Ron Paul is a Lew Rockwell-style libertarian, a culture warrior who gets his due props because he dares to face down the NeoCons. But as vice-president?

All it would take would be one nut (or spook operative) with a sniper's rifle, and we'd have a militia leader for a president.

Sorry. As much respect as I have for Ron Paul, I do not want to see him that close to the big red button.

--bkl
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:51 AM
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5. agree
i respect him and like him as a person and love to hear his point of view. but no way do i want him to be president or vice president.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:49 AM
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4. he wants to get rid of united nations
or at least take the united states out of it. i don't think dean would ever seriously consider him for vp.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:56 AM
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6. sounds good to me

he is one of the few people to vote against the patriot act

this would also give fits to the neocon goofballs

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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:58 AM
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7. so no basis for this rumor?

are you just making up these rumors?

where are you hearing them?
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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:32 PM
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10. "are you just making up these rumors?"
Why would you pose that question when I cited the "source?"
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:39 PM
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14. because i looked at that source
Edited on Thu Oct-09-03 01:40 PM by el_gato
maybe i'm blind (a distinct possibility) but i did not see
anything in there about dean/paul

on edit: okay i looked again and it appears that i am blind.
i did not see that last sentence

i do wonder where they got this from though
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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 02:01 PM
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15. Yep, it was in the fine print...
:-)

I was wondering the same thing (where they got this rumor), which is why I posted the blurb.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:00 PM
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8. no, I doubt he will be on any Dean short list
he is a republican. Maybe we can put him on a Republicans for Dean comittee.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:28 PM
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9. In these times
and with so many wonderful Democrats available for the job, there is no reason in hell to put a Republican, especially one with Libertarian leanings, into the second slot.

I have no use for Libertarians. They cloak their evil, selfish, crypto-feudal economic message in the sugar coating of lenient behavioral standards.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:45 PM
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11. I voted for Ron Paul once...
when he ran for prez as a Libertarian...

strange times...
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:52 PM
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12. He'd have a better chance with RuPaul
Jeez, where do these crazy rumors come from !
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:10 PM
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22. I couldn't say it better myself. Less sensible than Dean/Cyborg
Ron Paul is an anarchist.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:14 PM
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13. No chance.
(If it comes to that) He'll pick a southern Congressman. Someone like Edwards. Hmmm, Edwards isn't running for his Senate seat, is he? :shrug:
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 02:15 PM
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16. Ron Paul is certainly better than Greg Laughlin..the DINO before him.
He opposed HR 1554, which gives corporations the power file million dollar lawsuits against anyone..including children, just for downloading copyrighted MP3s off the internet. He is one of the few repukes loathed by his own party, and the special interest groups. And he opposes the federal government using its power to monitor an individual's path left on the internet, as well as reading individual emails. To bad reading another person's email isn't a federal crime!

However, it cannot be forgotten that he supported all of shrub's taxcuts..and that he has voted for cuts in healthcare, education, as well as military pay and benefits. This is unpatriotic and unAmerican. Time that the Repukes made a choice, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 02:16 PM
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17. If you like this burr I think you should know that Kucinich did too lol I
think you were the one who brought it up. Kudos to Paul on that although on a lot of things I disagree A LOT.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 02:28 PM
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18. Not in a million years
Paul is a hard-core libertarian. He is opposed to almost any federal spending. No Democrat would want him as a runningmate, and I really doubt that he would want to be a Democrat's runningmate.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:14 PM
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19. I don't think picking a Libertarian/Republican would be a good idea
I guess that's why this is just a rumor.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:41 PM
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20. no
Ron Paul is a Repuke supporter of Bush

he's a Repuke-Lizadatarian-Repuke

if Dean gets the nomination, he needs to pull a good moderate on the ticket to balance his perceived liberalism
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Mikhale Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:17 PM
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21. If not VP
then I suppose Ron Paul may be my Congressman next year. I'll be in TX Congressional district 14 if the DeLayliens succeed in redistricting us. The bad, sad thing is that he might be better than the Democrat that would probably be nominated in this district. What's a poor boy to do? Pray for a Green candidate?
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