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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 10:14 AM
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Link from ABC's The Note--push polling already in NH against Clark?
http://www.politicsnh.com/archives/pindell/2003/september/10_8pp.shtml

By JAMES W. PINDELL
PoliticsNH.com

Oct. 8-- Retired General Wesley Clark may have only entered the presidential race three weeks ago, but he he may already be the victim of campaign tactics intended to damage a political career still being written.

According to the Clark campaign at least three people, all located in vicinity of the Seacoast area, received telephone calls Sunday and Monday that appeared to be 'push polling', a method of asking how a potential voter might react about a candidate, in this case Clark, had they known some negative, possibly untrue fact, about the candidate.

Sue Mayer, a 53-year-old former Ph.D. student from Lee, said that around 5pm Monday she received a call from a female identifying herself as Shannon working for NH Opinion Research, a group that appears to be bogus.

Mayer said she had been slightly interested in Clark at the time of the call. At first she confirmed she was a Democrat that votes regularly in in elections. Then she was asked her preferences of candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination.

In the next series of questions she said she was asked whether she thought candidate "A", which had the background similar to Gov. Howard Dean's, was best prepared for the presidency or candidate "B", who had a military and non-political background like Clark.

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LoneStarLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 10:18 AM
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1. Flattery
Push polling is the most sincere form of political flattery.

The earlier you have it used against you or the more often you have it used against you, then you know you're doing something(s) right.
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 10:24 AM
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2. Dean's campaign denied it and Clark's claimed no harm...
Is further on in the article.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 11:00 AM
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3. Either Dean or the Repubs
Didn't Dean do push polling on another one of the candidates?
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:40 PM
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7. Read the article
The answer to your question is there.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:26 PM
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8. I read the article.
Big deal. The Dean camp denies it. I think they were also accused of push polling against Gephardt.

The Repubs are another good suspect. They have a pattern of building up Dean while tearing down Clark.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:26 PM
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9. I read the article.
Big deal. The Dean camp denies it. I think they were also accused of push polling against Gephardt.

The Repubs are another good suspect. They have a pattern of building up Dean while tearing down Clark.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 11:38 AM
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4. I heard about that. I hope they find out who is responsible..
It will be very damaging to that party when people realize how terrifying Clark is to his opponents.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:01 PM
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5. Dean? Pushpolling? Sounds familiar.

"First phone attack

Straight-talking Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean is testing his attack message in Iowa. Political operatives say Dean's phone polling is probing for weaknesses in support for Sens. John Edwards and John Kerry and Rep. Dick Gephardt. For rookie pol Edwards, it's about experience. For Gephardt, it's his alliance with Bush on key issues. Questions about Kerry test Iowans' reaction to his vote backing the war in Iraq."

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/archive/030512/12whisplead.php
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:28 PM
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6. Link doesn't work...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:36 PM
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11. Archived. You can purchase it if you like.
But, the paragraph posted is accurate.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:27 PM
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10. Thanks for posting this. e/o/m.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:56 PM
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12. Probing for weaknesses
is not push-polling.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:00 PM
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13. HAHA...by REINFORCING negative perceptions of your opponent?
Please, LuminousX....you know better.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 03:35 PM
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14. Now now...
21A § 1014-B. Push polling (As defined in Maine)

1. Push poll defined. For purposes of this section, "push poll" means any paid telephone survey or series of telephone surveys that are similar in nature that reference a candidate or group of candidates other than in a basic preference question, and when:

A. A list or directory is used, exclusively or in part, to select respondents belonging to a particular subset or combination of subsets of the population, based on demographic or political characteristics such as race, sex, age, ethnicity, party affiliation or like characteristics;

B. The survey fails to make demographic inquiries on factors such as age, household income or status as a likely voter sufficient to allow for the tabulation of results based on a relevant subset of the population consistent with standard polling industry practices;

C. The pollster or polling organization does not collect or tabulate survey results;

D. The survey prefaces a question regarding support for a candidate on the basis of an untrue statement; and

E. The survey is primarily for the purpose of suppressing or changing the voting position of the call recipient.

"Push poll" does not include any survey supporting a particular candidate that fails to reference another candidate or candidates other than in a basic preference question.

http://www.state.me.us/ethics/pushpollreqmts021302.htm


Other Sources:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/02/14/politics/main160398.shtml

Not all questions that seem negative are part of push polls. Candidate organizations sometimes do actual polls that contain negative information about the opposing candidate. These polls, which are not push polls, are conducted for the same reasons market and advertising researchers do their work: to see what kinds of themes and packages move the public.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/dailynews/TheNote_Oct14.html

11. (You thought we'd forget?) Don't forget what distinguishes a push poll from real polling calls and from advocacy phone-banking: push polls are calls that pretend to be for the purpose of a survey but are, in fact, calls designed to "push" the respondent toward the candidate who is paying for the calls, or away from the opposition.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 07:04 PM
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15. Read the article, again, L_X
The caller targets a likely Clark voter, reads Dean's resume and then Clark's and then reinforces a NEGATIVE perception of Clark. That's what fairminded people would call PUSHPOLLING.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:55 AM
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18. I read the article
No where do I see proof it is coming from the Dean campaign.

We have two issues here. The first is the negative surveying Dean did in Iowa, which he acknowledges doing that no news article has ever referred to as push polling and this act in New Hampshire which is push polling which isn't attributed to the Dean campaign and is most likely a dirty trick to stir up bad blood between the campaigns.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:05 PM
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19. *snort*
Sure.....no doubt. HAHHAAHAH
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 07:11 PM
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16. Push Polling- Now That Ain't Right
:(
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catforclark2004 Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 10:02 PM
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17. So much fear, so little time!
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