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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 08:34 PM
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Poll question: How would you vote if Gephardt is nominated?
Gephardt v. Bush... How would you vote?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 08:37 PM
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1. Again, Dean in 2004, but I'll support the Dem nominee to beat Bush
...and while I respect the right of every person to make their own decision, I can't see how you could NOT vote for the Dem...even if it's the one you really don't like...
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SyracuseDemocrat Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 09:41 PM
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2. ah...
you can't see because you don't understand the twisted mind of the typical green. to them it doesn't matter if a dem gets elected, their candidate just has to get his share of media time. :eyes:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 09:51 PM
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3. Getting the message across IS important...
but, in the end, I think we have to rally behind the person who has the best chance of gaining enough votes to send Bush back to the ranch (permanently).
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 09:50 AM
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8. Gephardt? HECK NO
I loath and despise Tricky Dicky Gephardt. He betrayed working-class Americans (unionized and non unionized) when he and six other Democrats did not even bother to vote to block Bush's overtime rules changes on July 10.

A few weeks ago there was a front page article on Gephardt in the St Louis Post-Dispatch. It read like a campaign flyer with how fawning it was but I digress. The man, like Kucinich, started out as an anti choice Democrat from South St Louis (and trust me they call it SOUTH St Louis for a reason...until the 1980s blacks in St Louis knew that they did not cross a certain barrier (Lindell and Grand) after dark).

Tricky Dicky Gephardt flip flops more than any pancake I have prepared.

Here in St Louis there is a rumor that he, along with other white St Louis Board of Aldermen (the governing body for the City of St Louis) got together and came up with a master plan which included the deliberate blighting of predominantly black North St Louis. If it is true then their plan succeeded because portions of North St Louis resemble a war zone.

Other than the establishment black community as represented by the Clay machine (which is powerful here in St Louis) I cannot see rank and file blacks enthusiastically supporting Gephardt, particularly following his not appearing at the NAACP convention.

I also worked for an insurance company owned by a woman who attended Northwestern Univ at the same time as Gephardt. I think she said he was active in the fraternity community and that he was shady then and she has never trusted him.

Dick Gephardt seems to take those positions favored by his campaign contributors, which may explain his not voting on July 10,lest he alienate wealthy business contributors. Why big labor continues to support him after he betrayed working-class Americans on July 10 I do not know nor understand.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 09:56 AM
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9. Tricky Dicky Gephardt? NO WAY
I loath and despise Tricky Dicky Gephardt. He betrayed working-class Americans (unionized and non unionized) when he and six other Democrats did not even bother to vote to block Bush's overtime rules changes on July 10.

A few weeks ago there was a front page article on Gephardt in the St Louis Post-Dispatch. It read like a campaign flyer with how fawning it was but I digress. The man, like Kucinich, started out as an anti choice Democrat from South St Louis (and trust me they call it SOUTH St Louis for a reason...until the 1980s blacks in St Louis knew that they did not cross a certain barrier (Lindell and Grand) after dark).

Tricky Dicky Gephardt flip flops more than any pancake I have prepared.

Here in St Louis there is a rumor that he, along with other white St Louis Board of Aldermen (the governing body for the City of St Louis) got together and came up with a master plan which included the deliberate blighting of predominantly black North St Louis. If it is true then their plan succeeded because portions of North St Louis resemble a war zone.

Other than the establishment black community as represented by the Clay machine (which is powerful here in St Louis) I cannot see rank and file blacks enthusiastically supporting Gephardt, particularly following his not appearing at the NAACP convention.

I also worked for an insurance company owned by a woman who attended Northwestern Univ at the same time as Gephardt. I think she said he was active in the fraternity community and that he was shady then and she has never trusted him.

Dick Gephardt seems to take those positions favored by his campaign contributors, which may explain his not voting on July 10,lest he alienate wealthy business contributors. Why big labor continues to support him after he betrayed working-class Americans on July 10 I do not know nor understand.
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 11:07 PM
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4. Same answer that I gave with Kerry.
It depends on who else is on the ballot, and it depends more on whether or not Gephardt is willing to improve the tone of his campaign. More importantly, he now needs to scrap the agreement he made with Lieberman, Kerry, and Edwards to only participate in six debates at the max. I cannot support any politicians who make such Nixonlike deals that hurt democracy, and I shall not reward them with my money or my vote.

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Alex146 Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 12:12 AM
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5. Can't vote...
because I won't be 18. This make me so fucking mad, I can understand polotics, I just can't take part.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 03:42 AM
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6. hey welcome to DU
how old are you? I will be 16 this week.
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VoteClark Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 06:35 AM
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7. What is the age break-up of Dean supporters?
I am wondering. It seems like a lot of young people really back Dean. I guess they view him differently. I think most Dean supporters are really young. Mos the photos I see of people supporting him are young. Not that they all are. I am sure he some of all the demographic. But I think most are white, young females.

J4Clark
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 10:47 AM
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10. That's my favorite demographic!
Just kidding.

But the impression of youth is reinforced by the current Doonesbury chronicles.

Not to knock Dean or Kucinich, but do you think youngsters are more easily swayed by fiery rhetoric?
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Duder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 12:26 PM
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13. Fiery rhetoric as opposed to...
...watered down speeches that say everything and say nothing?

Myself, I like a candidate that displays passion, but then I'm old and prefer conviction over voting for show.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 12:06 PM
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11. Well, I'm 16 (n/t)
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 12:07 PM
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12. Welcome to DU...
and I know the feeling...there ought to be a waiver of the age requirements if you can pass some form of political awareness test.
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SyracuseDemocrat Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 05:56 PM
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14. No there shouldn't, goobergunch.
Edited on Sun Jul-20-03 05:56 PM by SyracuseDemocrat
Having the voting age at 18 is important, goobergunch. I'm 18 myself, and I will be 19 next month. Having the age at 18 is important because 18 is the age of consent in our society. You can smoke at 18, sign contracts at 18, and you SHOULD be able to drink at 18. I don't see why we should let 16 year olds vote, even if they do know about politics. Knowing about politics shouldn't be a requirement to vote, that leads to an elitist political system. Besides, everyone knows that most Americans know very little about government. So, no, no one under 18 should be voting.
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FuriousMNDem Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 08:05 PM
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15. Well, check out my avatar!
;-)
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