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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 01:37 PM
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SHOULD EDWARDS DROP OUT OF THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE?
by Cash Michaels
The Wilmington Journal
Originally posted 9/11/2003



Next Tuesday, buses from Asheville to Fayetteville will be heading to the little town of Robbins for Sen. John Edwards official announcement that he indeed is a Democratic candidate for president of the United States..

Edwards would disagree, and here’s why.
While Howard Dean is Democratic “flavor of the month” for now, he is considered way too liberal for a Democratic Party that desperately needs to attract white males back to the fold, all the while holding on to its predominately female, black, Hispanic, union and working class base.

Edwards is gambling that his support of the war against Iraq, calls for new economic policies to jumpstart job growth in a still sluggish economy, and campaign to represent the working man and women, will catch fire just as primary voters realize that neither Dean or Kerry hold the answer.

Edwards is also counting on the fact that his pro-war, moderate Democratic stance will play much better in the South, where Democrats are there weakest among white voters, than his Yankee counterparts.

Like Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter before him, Edwards is a son of the South, and any ticket that doesn’t have that ingredient on it, may not sell. Staying in the primaries through March gives Edwards enough time not only to do better overall, but show he has strength in his native South Carolina and other key Southern states.


http://wilmingtonjournal.blackpressusa.com/news/Article/Article.asp?NewsID=31711&sID=4
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 02:10 PM
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1. Edwards is in for the long haul, and his numbers are going up.
He's about to take off.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 02:36 PM
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5. I know he is...
This is from the BLACK media, and the indications are that it is EDWARDS who will have the greatest appeal in the end to the Black voters and the traditional democratic groups.

I beleive that Edwards has a good chance to coming out from behind and pulling into the lead, and that Super Tuesday may end up slamming a number of the other candidates furtther ahead in a total coup.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 02:14 PM
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2. No.
Edwards is a really good candidate and he would make a good President. He's not my favorite. I think Kucinich would make a better President. But I'm glad that there are some nice guys besides Kucinich in the race.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 02:29 PM
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4. I think simliar
good anti corporate guy, pretty liberal, and also is in the self made club lol.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 02:26 PM
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3. No Candidate Should Drop Out
at this point without any votes having been cast. The only 'poll' that counts is the one where people go to cast their ballots. Edwards needs to stick in through the first primaries - which is a long way off.
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 05:33 PM
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6. I'm confused
I thought I read here last week that he'd decided against the Senate bid. This article states different.

Interesting take on things though.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:14 PM
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9. No
This is one of the minority newpapers (It is a Major Black newpsper) and the real thrust is that Edwards whould stay in, as he has a better shot of picking up the Black DEmocratic Vote in the south than either Dean or Kerry.
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:31 PM
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23. OK
Edited on Thu Sep-11-03 09:36 PM by indigo32
I understand what the article was about... I just thought I'd read earlier that he'd already decided about his Senate seat. BTW I'm fully in favor of him staying in, I got no issues with Edwards... he's a good man.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:14 PM
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7. WOO HOO!!
Now he is going after us!! I feel so special!! Does that mean that he smells a threat?

I think I feel a little teary...my first Edwards bashing post by Nicholas J. I feel like the Edwards supporters here are no longer virgins.

Hey, is it really THAT hard to find something good to say about Kerry??
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:18 PM
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10. Not Bashing Edwards and never would
Edited on Thu Sep-11-03 07:21 PM by Nicholas_J
The thrust of this article is that Edwards has a better chance in the South, especially among Black Voters, and that if he can hang in until March, that support is going to be felt BIG TIME. The article indicates that though it is not obvious at this point, Edwards has a good chance of taking a lot of the Super Tuesday States

Hey, my first Choice would be Kucinich, if he could win, Kerry, Second, (but my first choice) and then Edwards.

I would pretty much support anyone but Dean, But Edwards is WAY up on my list.

47 percent of the South Carolina Democratic Constituency is Black, and Edwards has a LOT of support there....

Reaad the entire article.

Its summary states:


CAN HE MAKE IT? - North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, scheduled to make his run for the presidency official in his hometown of Robbins next week, isn’t doing well in the polls. There are calls for him to quit, but he has good reasons to fight until the primaries.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:21 PM
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20. I will have to reread it
I was in a hurry earlier, but I got a negative vibe from the article.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:11 PM
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16. read the article, it says edwards has a chance
it was an article in favor of edwards chances.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:20 PM
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19. Actually
I did read the article. The parts that were posted here were in his favor, but the whole first part of the article did not seem so supportive to me and even the final tone of the article did not seem pro-Edwards.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:14 PM
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8. WOO HOO!!
Now he is going after us!! I feel so special!! Does that mean that he smells a threat?

I think I feel a little teary...my first Edwards bashing post by Nicholas J. I feel like the Edwards supporters here are no longer virgins.

Hey, is it really THAT hard to find something good to say about Kerry??
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uconnyc Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:42 PM
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11. Some of you people are in total "LaLa Land"
Kucinich would make a great President - absolutely wrong! He is correct on lots of issues but he is not "Presidential" (and neither is Bush Jr.).

He is not the sort of person who will inspire the country, I can't see him bringing peace to the MidEast or being able to stand shoulder to shoulder with foreign leaders. You can just see from his demeanor that he is a bit "wacky"


Re: Edwards, I hope people give him a chance, because he is the only one that has a shot of beating Junior. I'm not saying he is the best candidate, just that he is the only one that can beat Bush. That is why I support him!
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:13 PM
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17. Welcome to DU uconnyc. Another Edwards supporter. Yay!
Our numbers are growing - here and across the country.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:19 PM
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18. Did my avatar disappear or something?
Was that for me? I am an Edwards supporter, not Kucinich. I do like Kucinich, though.
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Mass_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:00 PM
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12. I am a deanie
but I like Edwards. I am a bit sad because he chose to drop his senate seat. He is a good senator, and if he loses the race, won't his political life be over? I hope not. He is a valuble democrat.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:25 PM
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22. If he does not make it this time
He may either be given an appointment in the administration (somebody suggested Attorney General, which would be cool) or possibly be asked to be VP. No matter what, I don't think we will have heard the last of him.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:04 PM
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13. Only to run for Senate
If he's not running there (like he says), he might as well run for President.
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mndemocrat_29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:05 PM
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14. No
He should stick around, if only to take SC from Lieberman.
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dean4america Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:09 PM
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15. no
he shouldn't drop out now, but he shouldn't have given up his senate seat. he could always get back into the race later on in the campaign (i suppose this is legal), but he's pretty much f* if he doesn't get the nomination, a VP slot, or bush wins. then what is he going to do, go back to practicing law for 4 years before running again?
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:23 PM
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21. Yeah
Fall back on that loser of a multi million dollar law practice. That would just suck, wouldn't it??

Look, people, make up your minds. Before he gave up the seat, people were bitching because he was holding up other people from running. They were also saying that he could not effectively mount a Presidential campaign and a Senate race simultaneously. Now people are mad because he gave the seat up.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:34 PM
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24. LOL
The initial responses on this post seem to indicate that people aren't reading past the headlines on some of these posts...gee, I wonder why?

Silly rabbits...Nic was just using a flame-baitish title to suck people into his little Dean-bash. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!
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