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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 04:39 PM
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Reason #1601 Why You Should Vote for Carol Moseley Braun
She is the Anti-Bush.

You can tell she is the Anti-Bush from the way the dittoheads talk about her. As a matter of fact it's a crying shame that her accomplishments and positions are better known in freeper-ville than they are in many Democratic circles. What do the freepers know? Take a peek at her http://www.carolforpresident.org">updated web site and see for yourselves.

If you hate what the Shrub has done to this country, you will love Carol Moseley Braun.

I know, I know some of you are thinking, she talks like the Anti-Bush, she has the experience and qualifications to be the Anti-Bush, everything about her record of public service screams out "I am a Democrat and proud of it!" but she's just too short to be POTUS. Forget about it. Seriously. If the best Democrat in the field comes in a short package, so be it. The next president will be short. You owe it to yourselves and this nation to overlook this little fact of her birth--no pun intended. We can't all be tall, you know. So listen to what she has to say, listen to your hearts, think about it, and when Circus Democratic Primary comes to your town, do the right the thing and vote for Carol Moseley Braun.
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CarlBallard Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 04:43 PM
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1. That must be a hell of a list
if "the Anti-Bush" has 1600 things above it.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 04:46 PM
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2. A woman
....any woman...has zip chance of being president in your lifetime.

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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 05:31 PM
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3. If you're talking President of Kuwait , maybe you have a point
In the US women can vote too. What's the point of the 19th Amendment if women are kept from running for the highest office?

Here are just a few names of women who have served as president or prime minister:

Tarja Halonen
Mary Robinson
Indira Ghandi
Margaret Thatcher
Curazon Aquino
Megawait Sukarnoputri
Mireya Moscoso
Kim Campbell
Beatriz Merino
Sirimavo Bandaranaike
Chang Sang
Maria de Lourdes Pintasilgo
Edith Cresson
Golda Meir
Lidia Geiler
Milka Planinc
Gro Harlem Brundtland
Vigdis Finnbogadottir
Ertha Pascal-Trouillot
Helen Clark

You want to live under an American Taliban all your natural days, or do you want to exercize your power and help bring us up to speed? Check out the
The Whitehouse Project. For your sake, for the sake of the nation, for my sake--Because sometimes it's like embarrassing to be a man in this country, like when that's regarded as the essential difference between Dubya and Braun. Really, if that's what it boils down to, by all means let's let a woman take over. I don't vote with my gonads, I don't care if you do, but whatever it takes, I'm sick of perpetual war and macho tax policy--yeah, you heard that right--and callousness and egotripping in our little Versaille on the Potomac. Braun is running to change things here and now. Think about it.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 05:36 PM
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4. Actually Maple is a Canadian IIRC
But you so right.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 07:36 PM
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5. ohhh i dont know
I think hillary has a decent chance at making a run for it in my life time and if she does so will others.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 09:45 PM
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11. not just Hillary
but soon-to-be-Governor of Washington, Christine Gregoire looks primed to be a candidate in 2012, which I hope, is within my lifetime :-)
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 07:36 PM
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6. Carol rocks!
I wish she got more press coverage she has a great message.
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 07:43 PM
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7. I agree
I hope she sticks it out for a long time, because she brings excellent discussion to the debates/forums. I also love her smile!
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 08:33 PM
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8. Bad URL
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 09:24 PM
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9. Darn, too late to edit
One more time, updated web site with working links and everything.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 09:44 PM
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10. I like Carol
I really do. I just feel, I don't know..... apprehensive about her candidacy. Had she not lost her seat in a heavily Democratic state (Illinois) in a heavily Democratic year (1998), I would probably not be so apprehensive.
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 03:40 AM
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12. what happened in 1998
was that Carol was an early casuality in a battle against a vast right wing conspiracy--if the phrase sounds trite or delusional, I use it nonetheless advisedly to index a specific moment in American politics, to a turn in Republican strategy and its underside. While you could look at 1998 and point to this or that wound being self-inflicted, what really matters is 2004. So the question is are you apprehensive about her current campaign? You know as well as I do that her campaign has suffered some setbacks, that her poll numbers are not good in key states, that there have been doubts circulating about her viability, that her media profile is extremely low, including on the net. Yet for every uncertainty there are 40 reasons still to vote for her, and if you step back and look at the big picture, you can see that her campaign is steadily progressing towards the ultimate goal of unseating GWB and will not be derailed. On that there's no doubt.

Let me tell you what I see. I see a message that is aimed squarely at the most eggregious failings of the Bush presidency. I see a campaign that represents a broad array of Democratic interests. I see a candidate who put her ear to the ground, heard what people were saying, and responded with a platform that addresses popular needs and concerns. This candidate has all the makings of a winner. She is poising herself to win, especially insofar as the election will be a referenderum on a failed administration.

Carol is definitely not going away. That right there should tell you something about her ability to persevere and overcome obstacles. And she is not allowing her message to falter or be dissipated. That again should dispel some of your apprehensions. You can be sure that she is determined to deliver her message and send the Bushistas packing.

Will her determination be enough? No. That's not enough for any candidate. There will be a sometimes vicious struggle in the court of public opinion. However, the Party is not without resources and friends it can count on. Whomever we decide upon in the primary will not be in this fight alone. As long as *you* like Carol, that in itself provides you with a good reason to feel positive about her candidacy.

(It appears you've found a candidate you like better, but if you and Dean should part ways for any reason, rest assured Carol will be there to represent your opposition to Bush.)


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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 08:45 PM
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13. I really do like Carrol
which I said in the first post.

Perhaps I didn't articulate what I was thinking clearly though. I know a lot of the anti-CMB info was part of the VRWC, and she was a victim of it. That she failed to combat that in a Dem state in a Dem year makes me apprehensive about her ability to combat Rove next year.

Had she won in 1998, I would list CMB in my top 4 of candidates.

Dean is in there with Kerry and Clark, and narrowly beats them both because of my own gut feelings about Dean compared to the other two. There are some candidates I like but would be electoral disasters (Gephardt, Kucinich), some I am a little apprehensive about (Graham, Edwards), and some I outright do not like (Sharpton, Lieberman). Carrol is in the "like but electoral disaster" group.
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