Andrew Young may run for Zell Miller's seat

[DannyRed]

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/18/politics/18YOUN.html?pagewanted=1

My comment...

Methinks there is a rebellion of sorts in the Democratic ranks - the DLC and the centrists are coming under serious fire -- from the GOP for being alive, and from everyone else for sucking up to the GOP.

Lieberman is under a lot of pressure, Miller faces a run from Young...good.

Let me be clear, a lot of the DLC-style democrats have reasonably decent records as far as policy and voting goes...it varies, of course, some strong on the environment, some on rights, some on trade, some on military/foreign policy issues...

The problem with these guys is there "go along to get along" attitude, and their habit of folding under pressure, rhetorical weakness, and an apparent inability to fight strongly in public against agendae and issue that are really important to a lot of people.

More liberal leaning democrats running against them is a good thing - it forces the DLC to stop taking their left flank for granted, forces them to consider their base, it may in fact replace them with candidates more liberal and more willing to fight than the DLCers, and it will (I hope) re-energize the base to get out and work, vote, fight, and demand that their candidates and representatives do the same.

That, incidentally, is my primary reason for supporting Dean.

Frankly, Dean's message is not a whole lot different than the other Democrats, his record is about the same as the other Democrats, and I view him as solidly in the center of the Democratic spectrum....hardly attractive to a socialist like myself...

BUT, Dean, for many reasons, a lot of which have nothing to do with Dean himself, has managed to engage and energize a large group of people across the political spectrum (many of whom were not involved, discouraged, or dropped out before geting active in the DFA campaign) -- something that has been sorely needed for a long, long, looooong time.

[kainah]

1. oh wow! Andrew Young would be really good

I always thought he disappeared from public life too quickly.

[CMT]

2. Best news I've heard all night

Thanks for posting this. Young would be a great candidate. It is nice to get something other than the Clark-Dean hate threads.

[mndemocrat_29]

3. Andy Young's our best candidate

He could win the race. He will also drive up major Democratic support from the African-American community, which could clinch a pickup in GA-12 and possibly GA-11 and maybe even swing Georgia into the Democratic presidential column.

[Fovea]

4. Sure would be good

to get a Democrat in that seat... Yeah I mean an actual Demorcrat...

[burr]

5. What???

Maybe if you posted info that was widely available, it would mean something.


"Miller faces a run from Young...good."

Where the hell do you get this? Young contributed to Miller's last Senate campaign. :shrug:

[DannyRed]

6. What's your beef?

The info comes from a NYTimes article.

And if Young contributed to or worked for Zell Miller's senate campaign, does that mean that he cannot or will not run against Miller in the next primary?

Especially if he feels that Miller is not doing what is necessary (in Young's eyes anyway) to further the issues important to Americans, African-Americans, the South, or democrats (not neccessarily in that order...)

[burr]

8. What article?

I just get an advertisement when I click on the link. At least post articles, not spamertisments when you post "information."

On Zell Miller, it would be kinda hard for Young to run against someone who is retiring...

Why do you think Democrats in Georgia have been so desperate to find a candidate to run for Zell's Senate seat?

[DannyRed]

9. Sorry, I misread the article...

But the link DOES work.

And Andrew Young IS going to run for the seat, at least the article indicates as such.

Andrew Young, former Atlanta mayor, is considering ending his political retirement.

Young May Try to Add 'Senator' to Résumé

By DAVID M. HALBFINGER

ATLANTA, Aug. 17 — Thirteen years after he last held elective office, Andrew J. Young Jr. — the former pastor, civil rights leader, congressman, mayor and ambassador, to pick a few lines from his résumé — is eyeing a new title: United States senator.

He is 71 now, overweight, and hobbles on two bad knees. But because the Democratic incumbent, Senator Zell Miller, is stepping down next year and the Democratic Party can find no one more capable of trying to retain his seat, and because Mr. Young, ever the internationalist, is increasingly concerned about America's place in the world and eager to do something about it, he is considering ending his political retirement.

[Doomsayer13]

7. "Miller faces a run from Young" ??? I thought Miller was retiring

In fact, I was almost positive that this race was open.

[Benhurst]

10. Yes, it is an open race.

I think Andrew Young can win, if the election isn't fixed.
And that is a big IF. The more I read about the 2002 election in Georgia, the more convinced I am that Max was re-elected. And elections all across the country will be fixed if we don't put a stop to touch-screen voting without paper-printout back-up ballots.

[cosmicdot]

11. hope he resigns from Barrick Gold's Int'l Advisory Board

Barrick is the gold company Poppy Bu$h worked for after his administration, and gave away the ranch, so to speak, in a deal

Greg Palast's site has info on it.

Of course, former Prime Minister Mulroney is a Director with the Carlyle Group

http://www.ftlcomm.com/ensign/desantisArticles/2002_600/desantis629/thiefinchief.html

association of one's time and character are important to me

To borrow *'s phrase: ya either with us or against us

The International Advisory Board was established to provide advice to Barrick’s Board of Directors and management as the Company expands internationally.

http://www.barrick.com/fi_reports/annual/2002annual_en.pdf

CHAIRMAN

THE RIGHT HONOURABLE
BRIAN MULRONEY
Former Prime Minister
of Canada

MEMBERS
SECRETARY WILLIAM S.COHEN
United States
Chairman and
Chief Executive Officer,
The Cohen Group

HONOURABLE PAUL G.DESMARAIS,SR.
Canada
Director and Chairman
of Executive Committee,
Power Corporation
of Canada

VERNON E.JORDAN,JR.
United States
Senior Managing Director,
Lazard Freres &Co.,LLC
and Of Counsel to Akin,
Gump,Strauss,Hauer &
Feld,LLP

PETER MUNK
Canada
Chairman,
Barrick Gold Corporation
and Chairman,
Trizec Properties,Inc.

LORD CHARLES POWELL
OF BAYSWATER KCMG
United Kingdom
Chairman,Sagitta Asset
Management Limited

KARL OTTO PÖHL
Germany
Senior Partner,
Sal.Oppenheim Jr.&Cie.

THE HONORABLE ANDREW YOUNG
United States
Chairman,
GoodWorks International

~snip~ from the article to help those who aren't set up to "sign in"

In two terms as mayor of Atlanta, and then as co-chairman of the Atlanta Committee for the Olympic Games, Mr. Young forged ties with dozens of countries, reaped billions of dollars in construction and investment for Atlanta and the state, ran the Olympics in the black without government subsidies and left a legacy of sports facilities across Georgia.

Since 1996, when he formed GoodWorks International, a consulting firm, Mr. Young has spent about 10 days a month in Africa — the exceptions being after prostate surgery in 2000 and knee surgery in 2001.

Yet Mr. Young, who was ambassador to the United Nations from 1977 to 1979, said he had come to some unpleasant conclusions recently. One is that the Bush administration is not ready to involve itself in Africa.

"The things I'm trying to do are in America's strategic interest," he said. "Unfortunately, neither Colin Powell nor Condoleezza Rice has had much on-the-ground experience in Africa, and the Rumsfeld group has no interest."

Another is that global instability has made it hard to get things done.