What is Wesley Clark doing now?

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Well, among other things, hanging out with a lot of right wing war mongering rethugs like Henry Kissinger, James Woolsey, and Zbig Brzezinski...

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Also a senior adviser at CSIS - (Center for Strategic and International Studies, 1800 K Street, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20006 Fax [phone] ]

2000 CSIS budget, $16 million,
CSIS Affiliates: The International Councillors, a group of international business leaders chaired by Henry Kissinger, meets semiannually to discuss the implications of the changing economic and strategic environment. The Advisory Board is composed of both public- and private-sector policymakers, including several members of Congress. Zbigniew Brzezinski and Carla Hills cochair the board. The Washington Roundtable meets three to four times a year with members of Congress, executive branch officials, and other Washington experts to discuss pressing policy issues of the day. The Houston and Dallas Roundtables bring together local business leaders and CSIS experts to discuss current international political and economic trends.

CSIS Board, Counselors, and Advisers Board of Trustees Chairman Sam Nunn Senior Partner, King and Spalding Vice Chairman David M. Abshire President, Center for the Study of the Presidency, and Cofounder of CSIS Chairman, Executive Committee Anne Armstrong* Former U.S. Ambassador to Great Britain Members George L. Argyros Carla A. Hills Betty Beene Ray L. Hunt Reginald K. Brack Henry A. Kissinger William E. Brock Donald B. Marron Harold Brown Felix G. Rohatyn Zbigniew Brzezinski Charles A. Sanders William S. Cohen James R. Schlesinger J. Michael Cook William A. Schreyer* Ralph Cossa Brent Scowcroft Douglas N. Daft Murray Weidenbaum Robert A. Day Dolores D. Wharton Richard Fairbanks Frederick B. Whittemore Michael P. Galvin* R. James Woolsey Joseph T. Gorman Amos A. Jordan, (Emeritus) John J. Hamre* Leonard H. Marks, (Emeritus) Robert S. Strauss, (Emeritus) *Member of the Executive Committee Counselors William E. Brock Henry A. Kissinger Harold Brown Sam Nunn Zbigniew Brzezinski James R. Schlesinger William S. Cohen Brent Scowcroft Richard Fairbanks Senior Advisers J. Carter Beese Amos A. Jordan Bradley D. Belt John Kornblum James M. Bodner Robert H. Kupperman Stanton H. Burnett Laurence Martin Richard R. Burt Thomas F. (Mack) McLarty Wesley K. Clark Walter Slocombe William K. Clark, Jr. Robert Tyrer Arnaud de Borchgrave Anthony Zinni Diana Lady Dougan Luis E. Giusti Fred C. Iklé (Distinguished Scholar in Residence)

http://www.zpub.com/un/clark.html

[Kahuna]

1. zpub.com??? What's their agenda? I won't click the link..

because I don't click on each and every unknown source presented on the web. That's just foolish.

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2. Apparently their agenda is to "profile" Wes Clark...

n/t

[Kahuna]

3. So they say.. Do you believe everything you read on the web?

:eyes:

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4. Of course!

LOL

[Kahuna]

6. Is the group he's allegedly meeting with a think tank of some kind?

If it is, I see nothing wrong with Clark participating and lending a moderate voice. Afterall. Somebody needs to keep an eye on Woolsey and Kissinger. :D

In case you haven't noticed, Clark has a lot of inside information. He knows where the bodies are buried. He seems to have no qualms about outing the repukes on their radical agenda. If you would actually pay attention to him when he speaks, you would know this.

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7. If Clark were a member of PNAC would that be the same?

How do you know I haven't paid attention to him?

Don't you just hate these kind of posts? Half truths and innuendo?

[Kahuna]

11. I don't know what point you're trying to make and why you're

trying to make it to me. I don't slander any of the candidates. I handicap who I think has the best chance of winning. Yes, I get an extreme chuckle out of people who think ...nevermind. Best not to go there. :D

[TacticalPeek]

5. Wonder why they'd want to do that? zzzzzzzzzz n/t

[tameszu]

8. Dude, CSIS is a respected non-partisan academic research center

So I'm not a big fan of all of its scholars, but it definitely isn't a right-wing hack shop like the Hoover Institute or AEI. The research CSIS does it legit and well-respected within IR circles, much as Brookings research is resepcted, even if Kisinger and Woolsey is on board.

Yeah I'm a Clark supporter (as well as a Dean supporter), but your post raised my hackles a bit because I'm an academic and I'd prefer to be able to do my research without getting smacked with guilt by association. Every serious university will have its share of moderates and extremists on both sides, but if they can all ground arguments and research that can meet peer standards, then they should be allowed to make a contribution. I know you're not being completely serious about this, but please consider what it means for academic freedom and association when you make this kind of charge.

I should also add that guys like Sam Nunn (its chair) and Tony Zinni (who ripped Bush on the war and was relieved of his job as special envoy to the middle east because he was too dovish) are hardly Freepers.

P.S.: You might actually want to check out the research center's http://www.csis.org/">website before jumping to any conclusions. It's hardly a hotbed of progressivism--the "guns 'n bomb" crowd of IR has always liked to style themselves as thoroughly hardnosed and realistic--but neither is it a Scaife shop.

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9. Sorry about the hackles....

I think you get it.

Half truths and innuendo about a candidate sure does piss me off.

Lot's of that around here, huh?

[tameszu]

10. Sure, but is this helping?

And is your "object lesson" even being directed at the correct people?

Show me my anti-Dean post, please. I have never even used the word "unelectable"--more a strategic judgement (wrong, I think) than an insult--to describe Dean.

You won't find it, because I--along with Clark, who, unlike Lieberman, refrained from attacking Dean when offered the chance--have the greatest respect for the governor. I would support whomever--between he, Clark, and Kerry, and maybe some other surprise--ends up displaying the strongest possibility for leadership during the primaries.

I think there might be, what, one Clark supporter who has been regularly posting attacks on Dean?

This circular firing squad action has got to stop. Daily Kos reported there were Dean trolls on the Kerry website; no doubt Kerry thugs will be stirring up crap anytime soon. This cannot continue; otherwise the Democrats will be almost as responsible for the mess Bush will lead the U.S. into for the next 5 years.