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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:08 PM
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Message from Joe Trippi
This from today's blog:

Keep your eyes on the prize. The best way for our campaign to move forward is to keep focused -- our goal of reaching 450,000 Dean supporters by Sept. 30th can be reached if we work together towards reaching that goal and stay focused on it.
We have only 50 or so days left in this quarter and we need to work towards a fundraising quarter that exceeds last quarter's $7.6 million. Posting on the Kerry blog isn't going to get us there. Let them do what they are doing. And stay focused on what we need to do together.

No one does this campaign or our cause any service by posting on another candidate's blog. Let them build their community -- let them battle their own trolls -- and lets get on with the hard work of building the Dean community that will take our country back.

This must be the quarter in which we come out so strong that no one doubts that we are the candidate and campaign to defeat George W. Bush.

Keep our eyes on that prize and together lets move forward and make this campaign even stronger.

I have no right to tell you where or when to post -- all I can do is ask that you avoid posting to the blogs of other candidates -- it does not and will not help our cause to do so.

Thanks
Joe Trippi
campaign manager
Dean for America.


One of the things I love about the Dean campaign is that they address problems immediately, whether it be a misstatement by Dean, problems on the website, or in this case, Deanies going to Kerry's blog and representing Dean poorly. This is a great example of leadership and inspires me to work even harder for Dean.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:14 PM
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1. Hi! I don't understand what you mean by this?
"Deanies going to Kerry's blog and representing Dean poorly."

This sounds like Dean Supporters are going to Kerry's blog and representing Dean poorly?

Enlighten me, Please, in what you mean?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:16 PM
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2. Sorry, I get! Naive me! Can't believe People would actually
do that!
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:23 PM
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8. Apparently
There were trolls on Kerry's blog (as there are on Dean's) that claimed to be Deanies and bashed Kerry. Soon after, Dean bloggers came to Kerry's site and apologized for the trolls and said they did not represent the way most Dean followers feel. Also, on Dean's blog, many people were asking for no one to make trouble on Kerry's site.

So it was a handful of mean people, Deanies or trolls pretending to be Deanies, stirring up trouble. They were quickly quelled by Deanies both on Kerry's and Dean's blog. But Joe knowing about that, and addressing it, is the epitome of what makes this campaign so powerful.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 08:01 PM
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16. Really! Glad you reported this!
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Ohio Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:17 PM
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3. I think it means that Dean supporters are going to other candidates'
sites and disrupting, thus reflecting poorly on Dean. Nobody likes a troll.

But Pavlovs DiOgie should answer, as I'm not a mindreader.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:18 PM
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4. Message to Joe - Hello!
there are a few things wrong in your campaign - number 1 is that Howard's wife needs to be involved -non of this bullshit about just doing what she's doing- blah-blah-blah - ain't going to work - he needs a PARTNER.

I used to be a career woman and I loved it, but the President of US needs someone beside him - to guide him - etc, etc. Why can't she be like Hillary or Teresa? You cannot possibly win with this agenda. MY 2 Cents!
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:21 PM
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6. Because she has stated over and over
That she isnt interested in politics. She enjoys her practice she is a doctor and has said she would continue practicing even if Howard becomes president.

Where you get the Idea that partner = same job is beyond me.

You seem to be saying she should give up her practice where she helps people to become a prop to be brought out when they need a first lady to show off?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:23 PM
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9. I like it. Howard Dean is breaking the mold.
He respects his wife's wishes. He is considerate of the choices she has made in life. How sweet!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 08:05 PM
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17. I'm glad Dr. Judy Dean is like who she is!
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:20 PM
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5. Go, Joe!
:thumbsup:

You tell 'em!

We're very lucky to have Joe Trippi running Dean's campaign. He knows how to keep priorities straight and keep people focused.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:22 PM
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7. Very Disappointing
I didn't bring it up at DU, because I couldn't imagine anyone here doing it. But, yes, alot - and I mean alot - of Dean supporters started trolling Kerry's site. Kudos to Trippi for addressing it.

I try to remember that these people are not representative of Dean's campaign. I have the sincerest hopes that they are not.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:30 PM
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10. Indeed!
"I try to remember that these people are not representative of Dean's campaign. I have the sincerest hopes that they are not"

This right after you read a statement from the campaign manager aking people not to do it.

Very dissapointing!
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Do You Just Attack For The F- Of It?
Do you know what "kudos" means?
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:47 PM
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15. Sure do i also know
What disingenuous means.

I found your statement disingenuous.
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VoteClark Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:35 PM
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18. Egnever, I think you are being rude to Dr. F, who is trying to pay a
completment Mr. Trippi. You will find it very hard to gain support for Dean when you rudly attack a person that is paying your candidate's campaign manager a completment.

Even I can see that. You are either are a child, or just enjoy attacking individuals on the site.

I attack candidates, but never another DUer on here. Even when they attack me personally.


:kick:
J4Clark



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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:42 PM
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19. Thank you VoteClark
Egnever, I've been here awhile now, and have developed a decent reputation for being fair - although I have to admit that lately a bunch of new Dean supporters are getting nastier around here and clouding my judgement.

I apologize to any Dean supporters if I've been irate this weekend. I just kinda got caught up in the negativity. But I assure you Egnever that I was paying Mr. Trippi, whom I have great respect for, an absolute compliment for telling the troops to cut the trolling. He could have easily said nothing, but he was a real stand up guy - earning even more respect from me.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:09 PM
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20. My apoligies then
As I said the comment apeared very disingenous to me. Aparently it was not meant to be.

I can understand getting caught up in the negativity.

I can be very agressive in my support of Dean or anything I feel strongly about.

I dont dispute your fairness at all. I have been here for a long time myself i have read many of your posts and even agree with some of them :P

I dont post that often usually, Lately the rash of Dean bashing threads has motivated me to jump into the frey a bit more than usual. But post count plays no part in my evaluating a post from anyone.

As far as singling out Dean supporters for nastiness goes. I think you are looking through rose colored glasses. There is plenty of nastiness from all sides. Hell the guy you are responding to here is responsible for a ton of nasty threads bashing dean on mostly skewed information. Theres a ton of nastiness here.

I have no particular quarel with you I do think that over all you try to be fair. I am not afraid of nastiness though either, And I call em as I see em. Youe post was titled "very disturbing" in response to a post basically outlaying the Dean campaigns stance on kery bashing by Dean suporters on his blog. Something that should be a possitive for you, yet you answer it with a negative.

I am sorry if I got the worng impression And I am glad that you feel the way you do.

Just try to remember I may support Dean but that doesnt mean Dean suports what I say in fact he may not like what I say one little bit :P



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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:01 AM
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22. Well, I Was Disappointed
I was excited to see what other Kerry supporters felt, something I know Dean supporters can relate to, and before most Kerry people even knew the blog had started there were tons of Dean supporters (GOP in drag?) bashing Kerry. I let out a big WTF.

But, as I've said, Trippi did the stand-up thing.

As for the general nastiness, there are a handful of people that consistently post negative comments. I have put one on ignore, and I found it really changed the tone of everything for me. I won't name names (I don't think it is right), but I recommend that you "ignore" the people who pollute the atmosphere.

But please don't take the exceptions as the rule. In general, we Kerriers are a gentle people.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:12 PM
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21. HAHA!
What a fantasy land you live in!

" You are either are a child, or just enjoy attacking individuals on the site.

I attack candidates, but never another DUer on here. Even when they attack me personally."

Care to try again? And this time try not to attack me personally while your are telling me you never attack people personally.


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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:39 AM
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24. Congratulations Egnever!
You just got into a tangle with the TWO BIGGEST LOSERS on this board. I've got to bow to you in respect for your handling of the riff-raff.
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:31 PM
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11. Of course they're not
If you skim through Dean's blogs this weekend, you will see several posters ask people not to troll on Kerry's site, and NO ONE asking people to head to Kerry's blog. One person even stated how upset she was that she had gotten banned from Kerry's site and the Dean community told her that they were glad because she was poorly representing Dean.
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madison Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:36 PM
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12. Has anyone considered the possibility that it is Karl Rove's thugs...
Has anyone considered the possibility that it is Karl Rove's thugs pretending to be Dean supporters who are posting nasty things on Kerry's site, and Karl Rove's thugs pretending to be Kerry supporters who are posting nasty stuff on Dean's site?

Karl Rove will not miss ANY opportunity to mess with people's heads, and foul up relationships within the Democratic Party.

I agree with all who say we should be FOR whomever we are FOR but that we should not harm any Democratic candidate's image, as we will need to rally behind whoever is the Democratic nominee.

Anybody But Bush is my motto and should be the motto for all of us.

BTW, I'm an enthusiastic Dean supporter.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:40 PM
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14. Totally agree....on the IMMEDIATE address of problems....
just blows me away. As each day goes by, I am reinforced as to the reasons I support Dean.

He's a leader..right out in front...cutting edge....

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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 02:59 AM
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23. MOST were not Dean supporters, they were trolls
It was completely obvious that the majority of those negative posts on the Kerry blog were from trolls playing both sides against each other. The only screen names I recognized when I checked out the Kerry blog were supportive posts from Dean people, trying to help them see they were being trolled.

I think the Kerry people are finally catching on, and dealing with it on their blog. They're doing the right things, getting the volume of on-topic posts up, ignoring trolls, and staying focused. In order to keep this from becoming a regular source of amusement for the freepers behind this silly game, though, they'll need to get on top of making regular posts on the main blog. There wasn't one change today. The reason the Dean blog is so lively is that there is interesting information coming out of the campaign on a regular basis. I have faith they'll get it together, and a strong blog community on any Dem candidate's site is a good thing for all of us in '04.

Please, if you are a Kerry supporter, get over to your blog and start populating it with legitimate supporters, talking about the issues, talking about Kerry, talking about getting Bush out of the White House!

As for myself, I'll be over on the Dean blog doing the same.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 06:27 AM
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25. This is what I've been trying to say on DU
for a while:

Stop sniping at other candidates and focus on building up your candidate. And supporters of practically every candidate here has been guilty of the sniping, so I'm not accusing anti-Dean people of anything.

Even better, get off the computer for a while and work in your offline community for your candidate. There's an enitre universe beyond this computer screen that has no idea about DU or about the candidate you like.

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