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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:27 PM
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Hillary's Puerto Rico Problems
Hillary's Puerto Rico Problems

Michael Sean Winters, who knows an awful lot about Puerto Rican politics (and blogs here), has chimed in with some pre-primary analysis.


Hillary Clinton is headed back to Puerto Rico this weekend after a new poll shows her leading Barack Obama 51% to 38% in the June 1* primary. If those numbers hold, they would represent a great storyline for Obama, who has consistently lost Latinos by margins of more than two-to-one to Clinton. The press would likely say he is uniting the party, that a key part of Clinton's base was abandoning her, and that her claims to be the only person capable of delivering the Latino vote were demonstrably false. But that narrative is itself demonstrably false: Puerto Ricans have vastly different interests from most stateside Latinos, starting with the fact that Puerto Ricans are citizens and do not have to worry about immigration issues.

More to the point, though, Clinton isn't especially liked in Puerto Rico. Her husband did nothing to end the Navy's presence at Vieques, an issue that was less about military deployment and more about national pride. The Navy had previously abused another pristine natural habitat in Culebra, leaving a toxic mess to be cleaned up three decades after the Navy left. The threat that they were doing it again, combined with the Navy's shocking indifference to the death of a civilian guard, enraged the population, producing large protests and uniting virtually the entire political spectrum. Puerto Ricans were united in the conviction that they would never again consent to be treated like "pendejos," or suckers.

Hillary's war vote is also a major drawback. Latinos throughout the U.S. have been more opposed to the war than most, but in Puerto Rico the war highlights the island's colonial status. "If the death of a Puerto Rican soldier is tragic, it's more tragic if that soldier has no say in that war," noted a leading official in the island's Independence movement. San Juan Archbishop Roberto Gonzalez, a major player on the overwhelmingly Catholic island who had led the effort to get the Navy out of Vieques, was very vocal in opposing the Iraq War at its inception. By 2007, 57% of Puerto Rico's high school students or their parents had signed forms to withhold their personal information from Pentagon recruiters, according to The Washington Post. That same poll indicated that 75% of Puerto Ricans opposed the Iraq War.

Clinton's more recent pander on the issue of Puerto Rican voting rights did nothing to improve her image either. The important political divide on the island is not between Democrats and Republicans, but between statehood advocates and those who prefer the current, more autonomous arrangement. A small but vocal minority supports independence. All Puerto Ricans know the ins-and-outs of the issue thoroughly. Clinton suggested that the island's citizens be able to vote for president, without saying she was advocating statehood, despite the fact that the U.S. Supreme Court has twice ruled such participation unconstitutional. The most prominent newspaper on the island, El Nuevo Dia, mocked her "wish list" approach to the issue and made it clear that residents thought she was either uninformed or disingenuous.

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http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/05/30/hillary-s-puerto-rico-problems.aspx
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:32 PM
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1. Why hasn't this received more attention? The media is treating the Hispanic community as a monolith
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:35 PM
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2. attention. LA's ex registrar, Connie McCormack, Ms. Diebold herself, is in charge of the Puerto
Rican election. I don't believe the voters will have any say in the results. After being indicted for elction fraud in Texas, but not convicted, she came to LA, where she outsourc ed our elctions to Diebold and it's friends one piece at a time. Having secured LA COunty for Diebold and ES&S, she moved on to Puerto Rico.
attention!
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:15 PM
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5. HOW does that woman keep getting jobs???
Horrifying.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:16 PM
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6. Attention Indeed! Good find, robinlynne. n/t
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:20 PM
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7. not a find. We have been worried about it for months.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 10:15 PM
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8. For good reason, but at least hopefully, at this stage of the game, it will be minimal damage
Edited on Sat May-31-08 10:16 PM by Melissa G
even if she does manage to &^%@!^%$*^ it up. (Not that we should allow her to get away with anything or anyone's vote, of course!) I'm just grateful for today's DNC ruling which helped resolve some issues.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:37 PM
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3. k&r
:kick:
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Lady-Damai Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 02:25 PM
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4. Very interesting..... n/t
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:27 PM
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9. I agree with this assessment. n/t
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:13 AM
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10. And Dewey beat Truman (nt)
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