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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:52 AM
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REVOLTING!
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/04/at_openleft_chris_bowers_notes/

By Todd Gitlin


At OpenLeft, Chris Bowers notes this fascinating coincidence:

So, the Canadian conservative prime minister is calling Barack Obama two-faced on NAFTA at the exact same moment that John McCain is indicating that Canada might pull out its troops on Afghanistan if we make too much a stink about NAFTA? That strikes me as more than a little suspicious. In fact, it strikes me as a directly coordinated attack by McCain and Harper to neutralize McCain on trade during the general election. It wouldn't be the first time Harper and Republican leaders have coordinated, given that Harper uses Republican pollsters and the conservative movements in both countries are deeply intertwined.


There's another coincidence. While McCain is ingratiating himself with his right-wing Canadian friends, who returned the favor by accusing Obama advisor Austan Goolsbee of making a side deal with them over Nafta, Hillary Clinton is declaring that like her, "Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience that he will bring to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002."

This is revolting. Is the idea to do such damage to Obama that a remorseful Democratic Party will decide he's damaged goods after all, and she, by default, is McCain's only true adversary. Then her strategy would be better known as scorched earth than kitchen sink. And it's revolting. One way or the other, it's revolting.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:55 AM
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1. Yeah. Ugly nt
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:56 AM
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2. This is directly related to what I posted yesterday - there's funny business going on....
OTTAWA–Canada's "right-wing" government has been accused of meddling in the U.S. Democratic presidential campaign and, in particular, in that of front-runner Barack Obama.

Long-time Democratic strategist Bob Shrum made the comment yesterday on NBC's Meet The Press while talking about the North American Free Trade Agreement.

"You've got a right-wing government in Canada that is trying to help the Republicans and is out there actively interfering in this campaign," Shrum said of Prime Minister Stephen Harper's regime.

The Conservatives have made it clear they don't welcome threats by Democratic candidates Obama and Hillary Clinton to re-open the 1994 deal involving Canada, the U.S. and Mexico, and have levelled some threats of their own.

http://www.thestar.com/News/USElection/article/308805

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caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:57 AM
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3. K&R It IS revolting. n/t

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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:59 AM
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4. Don't ya just love Obama's diplomatic skills? Not even nominated
and he's already pissed off Canada. Can't wait to see what kind of tea party

he will stir up in Pakistan What a treasure:eyes:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:02 AM
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5. Doncha just love how REVOLTING Clinton's campaign has become? nt
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:12 AM
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7. You know the Kook-Aid has rendered your brain cell necrotic when you
can't even stay on your own topic
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:06 AM
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6. Revolting.
Ugly. Sickening. Cure: Vote for Obama, make calls for Obama, ignore Rovian tactics and try to get your enthusiasm back. IMO she threw herself under the bus with this. Bump, bump. She slowed me down but she can't stop me. GObama!
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:17 AM
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8. GD: Primaries -- GD: Primaries -- GD Primaries
This belongs in GD: Primaries.

It would have been OK if you hadn't brought up the primaries and Clinton. So now, I can see crap about Hillary on the Latest page, which I don't want to. That's why this belongs in GD: P.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:18 AM
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9. This group is politics/campaigns, and this has everything to do with
both. I'd be happy to put it in GD/P if I could. Skinner has suggested we use this place for now.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:43 PM
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11. Thanks, Gman.
:toast:
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:04 PM
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10. Clinton/Lieberman '08
Vote Republican with none of the guilt! :crazy:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:22 PM
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12. I wouldn't put it past the Harper neocon government to do something
like poke Obama in the eye. But Hillary? She is actually in the race and she is supposed to be fighting Obama. Big difference.
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