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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:33 AM
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NYT, pg1: For Obama, a Taste of What a Long Battle Holds; GOP playbook for General Election
For Obama, a Taste of What a Long Battle Holds
By ADAM NAGOURNEY
Published: February 29, 2008

...should Mr. Obama win the nomination, he will be playing on a more treacherous political battleground as his opponents — scouring through his record of votes and statements and his experiences before he entered public life — look for ways to portray him as out of step with the nation’s values, challenge his appeal to independent voters and emphasize his lack of experience in foreign policy and national security.

Some of this will almost certainly take the shape of the Internet rumors and whispering campaigns that have popped up against Mr. Obama since he got into the race, like the false reports that he is Muslim. Others will no doubt come from the types of shadowy independent committees that have played a big role in campaigns in recent years. But others will simply draw on Mr. Obama’s voting record and speeches, interviews and debate appearances.

Mr. McCain’s aides said their first line of attack would be to portray him as a liberal, and they have already begun pointing to a rating in The National Journal, based on his votes, of Mr. Obama as the most liberal member of the Senate. Though Mr. McCain has vowed repeatedly to wage a tough if respectful campaign — he chastised a conservative talk radio host this week for disparaging Mr. Obama and invoking his middle name — his aides have left no doubt that they will draw sharp distinctions with him on issues that Mrs. Clinton has never been able to use. Foremost among them is Iraq....

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...Some cases are simple let’s-go-to-the-video moments, like Mr. Obama’s statements that he would support giving drivers’ licenses to illegal aliens or would support raising taxes to shore up Social Security, lines of attacks that Republicans are already employing. Others — like a suggestion that Mr. Obama opposed the USA Patriot Act or supported a ban on handguns — might be subject to dispute by Mr. Obama, who would argue they were yanked out of context or did not take into account the subtleties of shaping legislation. (Nuance is usually a weak defense in political campaigns.)

Should Mr. Obama win the nomination, his candidacy could well be a test of whether these tactics still work or whether, used against a candidate who is trying to cultivate an appeal that transcends policy specifics, would fall flat this time. The fact that Mr. McCain felt compelled to rebuke some critics of Mr. Obama over the past few days suggests he might see a danger in attacking too aggressively. But Mr. McCain clearly will not control all of the voices that could oppose Mr. Obama, from bloggers and talk radio hosts to other elected officials. Even parts of the Republican Party apparatus can transmit messages that the presidential nominee cannot or will not....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/29/us/politics/29oppo.html?ref=todayspaper&pagewanted=all
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:35 AM
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1. Nuance is usually a weak defense in political campaigns...
...very true, very true...because your opponent can take your quote out of context, or you can say all you want..."That's not what I meant"...but the stuff still gets out there.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:41 AM
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2. Like Kerry's "for it before I was against it" -- they can kill you with the slightest...
off-hand remark. Interesting, though, that the article brings up the possibility that we may be past falling for that kind of gotcha' negative attack. We'll see, I guess.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:45 AM
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3. We will see indeed...
...because I don't think the Obama campaign realizes that it might still work...I'm thinking especially Michelle Obama's comment about being proud to be an American for the first time...they can play that video over and over and she can say what I meant was over and over...
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:48 AM
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4. You're right -- that's a good example. nt
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:56 AM
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5. BO was a board member of the Joyce Foundation that funds Violence Policy Center whose major goal is
banning all handguns. See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x160510

BO also considered becoming president of Joyce.

BO says we should ban all semi automatic firearms.

How will BO avoid being identified as someone who will ban guns, a factor that contributed to Gore and Kerry both losing their election?
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:04 AM
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6. I'm sure that would be played to the hilt to those to whom it's important. nt
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:14 AM
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7. Oh yeah...guns are always a biggie...
...Dems seem to have shied away from gun control...don't ask don't tell sort of mentality...I wish they hadn't because I can just see them shaking when this is brought up...they've forgotten how to defend these things.
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