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sungkathak Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 08:35 PM
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Manipulate poll
Manipulate poll

Howard Dean is a vivid sample of how insider group to use media and intelligence to manipulate an election.

1. In last October, when Dean became a threat to Bush, they at first threw out Wesley Clark to block him. Media said that Clark was the only one in Democratic Party which could beat Bush. ( try to divert the support of Dean to Clark) CNN-USA Today Gallop poll said Clark lead over Bush at the rate of 49% to 46%. How could they get such a result when not much people knew who Clark was?

Even media beat the drum to blow up Clark, the general has never led in any of Demo's primary. Where is the base of that 49% vs Bush's 46%?

2. When they failed to block Dean by Clark, inside group threw out Kerry. Kerry won the first Demo Primary in January. The tactic was the same. Now they said Kerry is the one who can beat Bush. The problem is how could Dean, as a leading candidate in Iowa, suddenly dropped into a result of 18% vs Kerry's 38%? Media use a word "Iowa surprise" to explain this drama. It's not convincible. Consider Demo candidates have similar stands on important issues, that 75% Iowa voters are anti-war, that Kerry has voted for Iraq war authorization Bill.

3. Same show had acted in recall of California. Before the recall, poll said Arnold had 26% vs Bustmonte's(Demo)28%. Another Rep's candidate, Mclintok, had a steady 14%. Mclintok wouldn't pull out the campaign after persuation. Then CNN poll suddenly boosted Arnold a 40% vs Bustmonte's 28%. (with Mclintok's 14% unchanged)
Obviosly, inside group once thought Mclintok would pull out, but he didn't. Of course that wouldn't trouble them, because they control election office thus they control the result. (just like in Florida election) All they had to do was immediately threw out a poll to justify Arnold's victory.

This is how insider group manipulate American election. They steal it by intelligent covert job. (Those who controlled intelligence, they controlled election office) And make people believe the result is reasonable by fake poll.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 09:09 PM
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1. So eventually they will 'throw out' Kucinich?
at their peril perhaps.

but i doubt it since ignoring him works so well.
dp
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sungkathak Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 06:31 PM
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2. Three musketeers


There were two big events in House in Bush presidency. One was passing through of the Bill of Patriot Act and other one is the Bill of Authorizing the use of armed force against Iraq. These two bills seriously eroding the civil rights of US citizens and their interest but largely benefit the inside group. They even activated anthrax attack(for Patriot Act) and DC sniper shooting (for the bill to authorize Iraq war power) to push through the two bills. After the bills passed successfully, the media published pictures to show that it was supported by two parties. The picture showed Bush was in the center, with Lieberman, Edwards, Gephardt came beside him. Like three musketeers stood with the king. Kerry, though being gang of four, even not qualified to be in the picture. They are the hard core of inside group followers.

Edwards has another character. He works covertly like Wesley Clark and Arnold Schwarzinneger. When Clark suddenly joined campaign, he has a clean vote history because he has never been a politician. Arnold at first denied he would be candidate in California recall, only at last minute announced involvement. Same tactic like Clark. Arnold also ducked all candidates debate. Edwards worked in same way. Try not to be in focus, avoid conflict. At this point, he and Clark and Arnold could be viewed as three musketeers from Feds.

Howard Dean was the target of insider group because his anti-war stand. They manipulated election, media and poll to pull Dean down. The resiganation of Dean's campaign manager gave him a last hit. When they created a situation that Dean was hopeless, why they are so eager want Dean announceing his out? It is paving way for Edwards' victory.

As a block to Dean, Kerry's mission is done. With great possibility, there will be a bigger surprise than Iowa one. Don't be astonished if you hear Edwards win super March 2 primary. All election are rigged one.
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sungkathak Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 06:10 PM
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3. Chaotic Demo


One should see US politics from another angle. That it is not a democratic country but a covert totalitarian country ruled by inside group.

The interest of that group right now is to have more war in Mid-east. Bush is a puppet fits their demand. To assure him have the 2nd term, they forced out possible trouble candidate Gore and Daschle. And made the rest a circus. These politicians like domesticated horses. Those out of track were "Wellstoned". If it runs too fast such like Dean, then they let out another one to block his track(W. Clark). That's why you see a chaotic Democratic Party. Clinton? Remember Luwinsky scandal? He himself is a horse too. That's a punishment if he didn't run as inside group required.
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sungkathak Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 03:34 PM
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4. Media censorship

Media censorship

The tactic inside group used to pull down Howard Dean.

1. A negative propaganda against Dean before Primary. Dean got more criticism than any other Democratical candidates did.

2. Control Primary election. Justify the result by fake poll. (see message "Manipulate poll")

3. Media censorship. They decided to terminate Dean's campaign right from the begining of Primary by created an "Iowa surprise". After a short period of "hopeless" comment about Dean, Media censored the news of Dean and put the focus on Kerry. There is no reason for Kerry's sudden leap up. It's only the result of manipulation of media - the decision of inside group. When Dean announced his pull out, he was still the second leading candidate of Demo.

Quote, "Study: Network news criticizes Dean most
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ASSOCIATED PRESS

Jan. 16, 2004 | LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Howard Dean received significantly more criticism on network newscasts than the other Democratical contenders, who were the subjects of more favorable coverage, according to a study released Thursday.

More than three-quarters of the coverage of Dean's foes by the nightly news programs was favorable, while a majority of attention to Dean was negative, the Center for Media and Public Affairs found.

The study found that 49 percent of the coverage of former Vermont Gov. Dean was positive, compared to 78 percent of the rest of the Democratic field, collectively.

http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2004/01/16/dean_media/

Why the Corporate Media Wiped Out Howard Dean
News/Comment; Posted on: 2004-02-17 13:22:42 < Printer friendly >

On December 1, 2003, Howard Dean was ahead by twenty points in the polls when he appeared on Hardball with Chris Matthews and said, "We're going to break up the giant media enterprises." This pronouncement went far beyond the governor's previous public musings about possibly re-regulating the communications industry, and amounted to a declaration of war on the corporations that administer the flow of information in the United States.

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2096
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 07:25 PM
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5. 2000 polls consistently overstated Bush-boy's numbers
Months after the election, the pollsters released "revised" numbers from the old data. A mere mistake? :tinfoilhat:
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