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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 04:40 PM
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Families of Military Organize - Seeking Help from Activists
http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/

I hope you'll excuse if you've seen this already, but there is a good opportunity here to work with others.


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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 04:53 PM
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1. Thanks for posting this n/t
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 04:53 PM
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2. Thank you
I'm one who hadn't heard of this organization, and I'm glad you posted this.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 04:55 PM
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3. Huh?!
Edited on Sat Jul-26-03 04:56 PM by Tinoire
Actively seeking our help?! Well by all means, let bygones be bygones and count this vet in! I am willing to help and stand shoulder to shoulder with anyone who's seen the light!!!

Though I am on board with a personal caveat. By all means bring them home, rotate them with others but it is imperative that we get the occupation tone changed so we can start helping the Iraqis rebuild and not with that Chalabi/Halliburton crap.

I'm against totally, unilaterally pulling out unless there is some mechanism in place to rectify the GREAT wrong we did.

I care deeply about our troops but I care about the Iraqis also. What is the right thing to do for humanity?

Anyway count me in. The boys over there now need to come home. They are being destroyed!

On edit: Thank you for posting this. I had not seen this before.

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 05:05 PM
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4. Have you heard anything . . . .
. . . . about the deployments of Guard and Reservists being time managed in order to avoid the government incurring Veterans' Benefits obligations? They are being sent to Iraq for six months at a time, will be brought back long enough to change their benefit eligibility status, and then sent again, as I heard it anyway. I think I'd organize too.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 10:18 PM
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7. No but doesn't suprise me
Edited on Sat Jul-26-03 10:31 PM by Tinoire
When I was in, the commanding staff would pull every trick in the book to save a few bucks so they could spend it elsewhere. I see Bush & Rummy are doing the same, from the very top.

Always trying to save those pennies for tax-cuts! I'm glad people, soldiers and their families especially, are waking up!

The way we're treating them is depressing and obscene.
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On edit: Just found this via WRH

According to Army Times, the GOP-controlled Congress has:

# Canceled a "modest proposal" to increase the benefit from $6,000 to $12,000 to families of soldiers who die on active duty;

# "Roll back recent modest increases in monthly imminent-danger pay (from $225 to $150) and family-separation allowance (from $250 to $100) for troops getting shot at in combat zones";

# Refused to consider "military tax relief... that would be a boon to military homeowners, reservists who travel long distances for training and parents deployed to combat zones, among others";

# Passed pay raises for "some ranks," but "cap raises for E-1s, E-2s and O-1s at 2 percent, well below the average raise of 4.1 percent";

# Accepted a $1.5 billion cut in the military construction request for 2004: A proposal by Rep. David Obey, D-Wis., senior Democrat on the House Appropriations Committee, to restore $1 billion of the $1.5 billion cut by "cover that cost by trimming recent tax cuts for the roughly 200,000 Americans who earn more than $1 million a year... instead of... $88,300," was defeated.

Army Times: "Taken piecemeal, all these corner-cutting moves might be viewed as mere flesh wounds. But even flesh wounds are fatal if you suffer enough of them. It adds up to a troubling pattern that eventually will hurt morale Ð especially if the current breakneck operations tempo also rolls on unchecked and the tense situations in Iraq and Afghanistan do not ease."
http://www.rense.com/general39/sup.htm
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Melsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 05:38 PM
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5. Awesome site
Thanks. It seems like some people are getting their sanity back.

I'm really glad to see mention of depleted uranium. They say it's worse than agent orange, and I tend to agree. I think this will be a very important issue in the near future.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 05:50 PM
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6. Agreed about the Depleted Uranium...

which is why they didn't crack down on the nuclear facilities and gaurd them so that they can blame the DU sickness on that...

Dave (AmyStrange.com)

DU (slang/ folklore) Glossary (Dictionary): http://DUG.SeattleActivist.org/
Index of WMD Articles: http://WMD.SeattleActivist.org/

Here are some excellent resources and timelines of quotes and interviews and newspaper article quotes documenting the different things Bush and Co did and said for the last two plus years concerning the war in Iraq and WMDs (and other fun things) from the Howard Dean Website---even if you're not a Dean Fan, these are still excellent resources:

The Bush Administration And WMDs: Then And Now:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=bush_wmd_summary

Niger-Uranium Timeline:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=niger_timeline

Bush and WMD: Assumptions vs. Reality:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/DocServer/TikTok_-_Bush_-_Iraq_-_Side_by_Side.pdf?docID=781

The Bush Administration and WMD: What did they know and when did they know it?:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/DocServer/TikTok_-_Administration_-_Iraq_Deception.pdf?docID=762

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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 01:28 PM
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8. thanks for the link...
I'm forwarding to friends and family!
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