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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:09 AM
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It is time for everyone to be an activist! - A STOLEN ELECTION - AGAIN!
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 09:15 AM by tommcintyre
<KICK THIS UP OVER AND OVER - MAKE SURE EVERYONE GETS A CHANCE TO SEE IT. ALSO, PROPAGATE THIS POST ALL OVER THE WEB. WE HAVE 11 DAYS BEFORE AN EVEN MORE EXTREME SITUATION WILL DEVELOP>

http://www.independentmediasource.com

November 3rd - In hindsight, we never stood a chance - the "fix" was in from the beginning. Nothing we could have done - no matter how many voters we registered and got to the polls - would have made a difference. In the end, the numbers would've been "adjusted" so Bush would win enough electoral votes. And - so he would have a majority popular vote; so he could declare a "mandate" and push through his extremist agenda.

In Florida, and probably Ohio (and very possibly other states), the election is most likely being stolen through voter fraud. I say this for the following reasons:

- The exit polls showed a clear Kerry advantage in these states. Early in the counting yesterday, Bob Woodward expressed reservations about the wide disparity between the exit polls and the claimed vote count. And the gap has only gotten worse since then.

- Those still undecided at election time historically trend for the challenger.

- Bush's approval rating has averaged about 48% in the polls just prior to the election. It is unheard of for an incumbent to be re-elected if this number is under 50%.

- A high voter turn-out strongly favors the Democrats over the Republicans. This will turn out to be the highest turnout in 40 years (since the sixties).

- The "young vote", who registered and pledged to vote in record numbers (and polled strongly against Bush); were "under the radar" in the national polling - due to using cell phones, etc. So their vote should've skewed the voting results much higher than the pre-election polls indicated. (Also, in many polls, they were not counted because they had never voted before, and were not considered "likely voters").
- An article even indicated that Democrats also were under-represented in the polling surveys:

"Bush or Kerry - Are Pollsters Making the Connection? New CEA Survey Finds Consumer Shift to Cellular Phones, New Telephone Technologies Leave Millions out of Polling Process - Survey Finds Republicans More Likely To Respond To Phone Polls; Democrats More Likely To Screen Calls and Answer Most Calls At Home Using Cell Phone"
http://www.independentmediasource.com/feature_archive.htm#102304_19

I'm sure there are other discrepancies. These are just the ones that immediately came to mind.


How did they do it?

There are many traditional ways to influence an election. But since the 2000 Florida election, a much more powerful way of influencing the election has been implemented - electronic voting (Evoting). With Evoting, it is very easy to change the results of an election. And no one can prove it, since there is no paper trail. There are many ways this can be done by programming the machine to give a desired result. For example, it is possible to program an Evoting machine to change the votes by inputing an exact combination of voting choices. This is very similar to entering your password into an ATM bank machine to get money. This Presidential election, 30% of the votes were cast using Evoting - WITH NO PAPER TRAIL! Many computer professionals have been leading the charge against Evoting. The more someone knows about this kind of voting, the more they are against it.

I suggest you educate yourself about Evoting and voting fraud. A good place to start would be to watch the following documentaries on my "Watch Online" video page.

- Votergate 1 and 2

- Unprecedented: The 2000 Presidential Election

http://www.independentmediasource.com/video.htm

<Also, watch other vids on this page, like "Bush's Brain", to better understand what we are up against.>

"Invisible Ballots: A temptation for Electronic vote fraud"
http://www.independentmediasource.com/video_p2.htm

"Governments are installing computerized voting systems with no paper record to verify accuracy. Elections will be controlled by companies that do not allow voters to inspect their software. If vote counting becomes privatized, there may be no way to get it back. High-tech vote fraud is already a reality. If you value your vote, you must get this information to your friends – and fast!"

and "Everywhere But Florida" are also excellent. But I do not have links to watch them online; just to the web sites and to watch the trailers.

<I will develop an "Evoting Fraud" page by tomorrow night (November 3rd). Right now, there is only one link here. Please send me any good ones you may have.>

http://www.independentmediasource.com/evotingfraud.htm

What will they do if they succeed in this theft?

If Bush administration succeeds, it is clear that this group of right-wing extremists plan to finish transforming our country. They plan on transforming it into something that our founding fathers never intended. Our country will become a place that is only "friendly" to the privileged few; and adheres to a very narrow intolerant belief system. In addition, we will become even more isolated and unsupported by the rest of the world - possibly irrevocably.

And those who want to do us harm will only become more inflamed and multiply. The world (including our country) will increasingly become a much more dangerous place to live. The net effect of a Bush win would be that the disturbing trends we have seen over the last four years would become much more extreme and permanent.

So what do we do?

1 - Organize, and participate in, demonstrations, protests, etc immediately! Write letters/email the media, government officials, people you know, etc - anyone who will listen. The word must be gotten out about this! The mainstream media (and the GOP) are already "spinning" this away from any discussion of the possibility of voting fraud. Public attention MUST be drawn to this now - before the results are finalized. < I will look for and publicize any activities that may help.>

IF THIS COMES OUT THE WAY THIS LOOKS LIKE ITS GOING TO, WE HAVE TO TAKE MAJOR ACTION!

For example, a very serious, coordinated long-term economic boycott of the US big corporate business system. HIT THEM WHERE IT HURTS! (More on this in upcoming days if necessary.)

Keep positive, and keep coming back here. We have power if we work together.

http://www.independentmediasource.com

The Presidential Election Tracking Page is still here and being updated:
http://www.independentmediasource.com/election_watch2004.htm
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:15 AM
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1. What is in place to start impeachment proceedings?
Impeach Bush for

Crimes against humanity w/ his pre-emptive war strategy

Falsifying information to lead the country into war with Iraq

Mismanagement of the national economy/bankruptcy & record deficit

Unconstitutionality of PATRIOT ACT
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Hog lover Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:59 AM
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2. There will be no impeachment - Repukes control Congress - eom
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:03 AM
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4. Congress
So we won't have any traction there.

My goal is to infiltrate one of the right wing orgs here in Atlanta. It will be easier to sabotage them from within.

"Oopsy!!! I didn't mean to delete that mailing list! Bygones. Jayzus luvs U"

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Hog lover Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:03 AM
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3. Work to get safe election laws in your state
We need verifiable paper confirmation of all electronic voting systems - voter needs to get a printout and another printout of each vote needs to be generated for recount and verification purposes. Voter needs to sign the printout that is kept for recounts and verification.

We need to make it easier for people to vote. How does the Oregon voting by mail system work, for instance?
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CitySky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:54 PM
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5. Holt bill in the House
and another similar bill in the Senate would require voter-verified paper trail for all future elections.

We must do whatever it takes to get this in place by 2006. We must start NOW.
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anotherginger Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:58 PM
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6. Has anyone heard of a march in DC scheduled in January '05? n/t
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sarahlee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:48 PM
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7. Two January Events
Nothing for the 5th but these two DC events are scheduled for January:

The People's Inauguration :.
Thursday, January 20, 2005
Washington, DC

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Friday, January 21, 2005
Washington, DC

The Progressive Democratic Summit will be filled with experienced speakers in the progressive movement, informational workshops, and other useful information for progressive activists and organizations both inside and outside the Democratic Party. In addition to speakers, the Summit will consist of meetings with progressive congressional leaders, state Progressive Democratic caucus breakout meetings, and panel discussions and workshops all aimed at build an unstoppable coalition of the hundreds of millions of Americans who will benefit from taking back of our democracy, our economy, and our institutions from the moneyed interests and the military-industrial complex that now control our lives and rob us of our precious right of informed self-governance.

============
Details at:
http://pdamerica.org/events/main-list.php?id=29

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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:39 PM
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9. Thanks for posting. I was planning to be in DC for the 21st anyway... n/t
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pengo Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:23 PM
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8. Economic Power is the only power we have left!
For example, a very serious, coordinated long-term economic boycott of the US big corporate business system. HIT THEM WHERE IT HURTS! (More on this in upcoming days if necessary.)

This is the key. Our leaders are failing us. Kerry bailed on us before the votes were all counted. Protesting accomplishes little. The media has proven they will not help. Economic pressure however accomplishes alot. See Sinclair. Our strength is in our numbers. 50 million Democrats pulling their money out of Diebold and Halliburton stock will hurt greatly. The religious right has used this tactic successfully in the past. So has the NRA. I say we financially cripple the corporations stealing this country simply by withholding OUR money. We did it with Sinclair, we can do it with others. These people are addicted to money. Money is the only thing they will listen to.
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sarahlee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:01 AM
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10.  This Time We're Watching
http://www.ttww.org/watch/index.shtml

This Time We're Watching

TTWW UPDATE - POSTED 11.3.04 11AM EST
Posted: Wednesday, November 3 2004
POSTED 11.3.04 11AM EST

okay folks…

you all are amazing. while much is uncertain and many of us are in a bit of shock, it is clear that some things are very wrong. we need to act.

after lots of assessment last night and this morning, based on current info and conference calls with many players, this time we’re watching is calling for action and has developed an up-to-date list of talking points.

NEXT STEPS:

1. activate your plans for Nov. 3 and 4
2. join us on a conference call at 1pm EST if you can
3. BE SURE to use the following Call to Action and Talking Points below – these are critical and are being hammered by everyone in all the coalitions nationwide
4. stay tuned for a press release in next hour
5. check ttww.org and indyvoter.org for continuous updates


CALL TO ACTION

It’s Not Over: 250,000 Ohio Provisional Ballots Have Not Been Counted!

This Time We’re Watching – the League of Pissed Off Voters, Ruckus Society, and Truth Force Training Center – calls for a complete count of every ballot cast, as well as thorough investigations into the origin of each instance of disenfranchisement and voter suppression.

• To our organizers in Ohio: organize local actions throughout Ohio and go to Columbus for today's convergence if you can
• To our organizers outside of Ohio: continue with your advance plans locally, emphasizing solidarity with the voters of Ohio, citing any reports of voter suppression in your own district, and using the new talking points below
• Wear black or a black armband this week in solidarity (but don’t mourn, organize)
• Celebrate our work, strengthen our movement, LOVE EACH OTHER, don’t let them break our spirit


CRITICAL TALKING POINTS

• Count every vote – including all provisional ballots
• Demand systematic investigation of voting irregularities in local places nationwide - e.g. provisional balloting issues, absentee ballot issues, discrepancies with exit polling data, voting machine problems, polling places moved
• Our message to the Democrats: don’t concede until every vote is counted
• All eyes on Ohio


IDEAS FOR SIGNS

Count Every Vote!
Dems: Don't Concede!
Investigate Voter Suppression!
No Voter Disenfranchisement!
All Eyes on Ohio!
Provisional Ballots are Votes too!
Democracy Means all Votes!
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Nightwing Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:50 AM
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11. The time is now to take this nation back!
We cannot stand idly by and watch this great nation of ours go down the toilet.

We must organize, mobilize, and energize!

We must form massive non violent demonstrations at key areas throughout this nation and demand to be heard;

We must turn our anger into action and there isn't a moment to lose;

No retreat and no surrender at any time over the next four years. We have fifty million people on our side and we must fight together to take this nation back! I'm proposing at minimum two million Democrats/Progressives to be present during the inauguration to protest this cancer we call our President.

We must march on the powers that be such as the FCC to breakup the stranglehold of far right wing opinion in our media. If this government of ours could break up the monopoly of Ma Bell, they certainly can break up the monopoly of our media.

I want to organize massive protests against NBC, MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, Clear Channel and every single pro right wing media outlets in this nation.

Do not make the mistake that protests such as I'm proposing will not work. They worked in the sixties and will work now. But in order to work, we must have solidarity among our core and our message must be clear; WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED, WE WILL NOT BE MUZZLED AND WE WILL NOT BE IGNORED!!

In order to SHAKE the establishment, we must WAKE the establishment and the time is NOW!! THIS IS OUR MOMENT OF TRUTH, OUR DESTINY AND OUR DUTY. Do not let your children and grand children down; I am nightwing and I am reporting for duty!!!

:nuke:
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