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TurtleTower Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 05:00 PM
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Is It Time For Some Civil Disobedience?
Edited on Fri Aug-01-03 05:05 PM by TurtleTower
I'm incredibly outraged at Washington for its blatent disregard for following legally binding procedure instated to protect the American people.

Adding to this smack in the face is a punch in the stomach. Without following their own rules, they impose new, unconstitutional provisions on the lives of citizens!

While they flaunt the system to their ends, they stand on our necks and tell us to behave! I think its time we started preparing for a serious exhibition of civil disobedience.

We pay taxes to a government who neglects to have its departments audited effectively, and refuses to use reason when planning how that money comes back to the American people. This is outrage enough for us to simply seek an end to our unfair taxation.

We have our personal information practically stolen from us by unconstitutional invasions of our privacy, while the White House requests countless documents to be classified on topics that are CLEARLY necessary for an American to make informed decisions in a democratic society.

With the erosion of privacy and due process, I think its time we develop a plan for organized civil disobedience AS SOON AS POSSIBLE to show not just our elected officials, but all Americans that we are not willing to wait for it to get bad beyond recovery. We cannot let the government off the hook without causing them a head ache.

We need to develop effective strategies for local activist groups to particpate in civil disobedience nationwide. We need to notify our elected officials that this is going to happen until our government begins to follow the laws that WE impose on THEM. They are OUR government. We are NOT THEIR citizens.

I want my rights back. And no one is going to take them away with words and paper. We need to be the law enforcement for Washington, because no one else is. Making requests of our representatives isn't enough when their power has been diminished by the administration. Let's give them some power back in the form of our actions.

I need ideas for my local activist group, and I'd like to discuss ideas for everyone to employ in their regions. Please help out.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 05:14 PM
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1. hmmm, i'm only a 300+ poster here
Maybe you should talk to the 1000+ posters. Speaking of posts, you might want to participate a bit longer before organizing us into gangs participating in civil disobediance.
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Pocho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 05:32 PM
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2. ACTIVISM IS JUST A LITTLE THING, AND YOU CAN DO IT. HERE'S HOW
Activism is characterized most by what it leaves aside as it effectively strives for power. That is analysis and rhetorical positioning. It is not about what someone thinks, but rather what one does. Activism is usually misconstrued by liberals, who tend to think in grand constructs. They oppose a war, object to world wide globalism, promote conserving the environment, and desire this or that form of government.

Saul Alinski, the master political agitator, tactical planner and social organizer didn't mince words when he wrote "Liberals in their meetings utter bold works; they strut, grimace belligerently, and then issue a weasel-worded statement 'which has tremendous implications, if read between the lines.' They sit calmly, dispassionately, studying the issue; judging both sides; they sit and still sit. ...".

From their debating benches, liberals tend to view activism, of which they are little experienced first hand, in terms of their thinking in large designs. They make the same mistake as do their conservative enemies, whose uninformed grand design tendency causes them to see great sinister 'isms or 'ists secretly guiding the activists.

To the contrary, activists, at least those who instigate organizing for meaningful change, know that the battles are about small goals that immediately affect those involved. They strive for such as neighborhood control of a local head start program in order that their children are educated rather than one run by social workers seeking increased salaries through federal funding. They protest to shut down a particular bank engaged in racially red lining its lending practices. They sit in an office in order to impede education on a campus because a teacher was unjustly fired. They picket to decrease the bottom line of a store with biased hiring practices. They jam and disrupt a city council meeting to prevent passage of a discriminatory ordinance. They purposely anger commuters by snarling rush hour traffic in order that increased pressure be brought on local leaders.

People did not suffer blows marching over the Edmund Petis bridge in order to cause passage of a national right to vote law. They did it to bring normal operation of the small town of Selma, Alabama to a stand still and so force it to locallt register black people to vote. To exactly the same ends but geographically removed, 1000 participants in SNCC and the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party filled the jails of Jackson, Mississippi. They succeeded because local garbage collection was stopped and the city budget drained. That was becuae the trucks had to be used instead for hauling demonstrators who then had to be fed with funds otherwise available for normal operation.

The great social changes that liberals seek take place when enough activists bring a halt to enough sectors of society which are then no longer able to continue operation in their previous modes. Those occur because of the establishment's attempt to maintain power by mollifying and coopting the impetus for continued collective activism. In trying to halt the activism, the establishment is itself changed. And, the liberals, who analyzed, postulated, and talked but did little, gather credit for the emergence of their ideas. That they do is of little concern to the activists, who go on to organize further.

Anyone can be an activist. It is easy. No great social or political insight or analysis is required. To the contrary, such focus it is discouraged, for it only gets in the way. The following simple steps will allow anyone to start a local movement. I have personally used them to initiate formation of effective civil rights, anti-war, and antipoverty groups.
The technique worked every time.

1. Identify about six persons who do not particularly know each other but share somewhat similar views to your own. Note letters to the editor. Start water cooler and/or after church discussions. Make statements in a class, club, or bar, and note responses. Don't discuss tactics, strategies, or solutions. Don't preach. Listen. Focus on individuals with intense feelings but avoid know-it-alls. Try to pick persons of divergent community status in so far as possible. Note how to contact them.

2. Meet separately, privately, and one time only with each of those you've identified. Invite them to your home or visit theirs. Go out to lunch or for drinks together. This time discuss your concerns in depth. Most importantly, listen to their views. Don't bring up organizing for action.

3. Arrange a meeting with the entire group together. Shut up. Let them talk. You will hear your own views presented to you as theirs. Agree with and reinforce those ideas, but don't expand them. Let them enjoy the shared feelings among new found like minded friends. Keep things going until someone besides yourself suggests and the group agrees to meet again. Someone will, and they will. Have a place and time ready.

4. At the next meeting encourage the group to initiate some kind of visible public action that will attract more participants. It should be fun and not risky. Don't try to lead but just be one of the new movement. Enjoy!

As the group enlarges and engages in actions, it will take directions depending on the inclinations and experience of the members. Be one of them. If they don't go your way, or even if they do, go start another. Then bring them together. Repeat. That's what radical organizing and therefore democracy is all about.

Finally, one more quote from Aliniski, my favorite:

"Agitate + Antagonize + Educate + Organize".


Pocho

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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 08:11 PM
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3. Wow, where did you pluck that beauty from ?
A Saul Alinsky online edition?
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Pocho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 09:52 AM
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4. I DETECT A BIT OF DOUBT
and in response must state that Alinski was certainly a personal mentor among others, but the lessons repeated in my post above were taught through the risks of both failures and successes during years of doing. The requisite background for fuller understanding its experiential source is further discussed in http://globalfreepress.com/images/pocho/US.pdf . It was written with admittedly egocentric mind frame but still with focus on purpose of aid to further organizing.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 06:08 AM
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5. "Beauty" was not intended sarcastically
I am a bit familiar with Saul Alinski, but I do not recall that material.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:19 AM
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6. Pocho, you kind of have to be in the country for that to work.......
Edited on Tue Aug-05-03 03:20 AM by DagmarK
Or at least to increase its effectiveness........

a personal mentor? WOW!!!!!! Can you drop some more names?
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