Are Yankees Fans Freepers?

[NewHampster]

Sort of freeper like how they always have to root for the guys with all the bucks, all the trophies and all the babes.

I was born and raised a Yankee fan then moved to Brookline (1975 10 blocks from Fenway) in college and realized there was more to life than high paid stars and buying championships. Sitting 5 rows in front of the NYPD Yankees Cheering Drunks who came to Boston to out cheer the locals I realized that there could be good old fashioned hatred involved. I do so hate the Yankees and pray to the baseball gods that if my Sox can't win this year, let it be the Cubs.

The rest of the country cheers for their home team in thick and thin because thats what good neighbors do together. But Yankees fans move on and still root for the Yanks because they like to always be on the winning side, can't stand the thought of fighting for the little guy. Very Freeper like if you ask me.

[name not needed]

1. who voted yes?

oh youre gonna get hurt now!

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

2. My family and I are life long Dems and Yankee fans! WTF?????

[NewHampster]

4. Welcome to DU good Dem

bad yankee Fan.

:hi:

[NewHampster]

3. uh, that would be me

[JVS]

5. Being in cahoots with the forces of evil is not a transitive property.

So just because all Yankees fans are evil and all freepers are evil does not mean that all yankees fans are freepers

[NewHampster]

7. So if all yankees fans are MorAns

And all Freepers are MorAns you're saying I can't make the obvious connection?

[JVS]

8. No. Try to think of it in a set-theoretical sense

Both would be subsets of morans, but there is no guarantee that Freepers and Yankees fans are identicle sets. (i.e Y contains all of F and F contains all of Y). In fact it is possible that Y and F could be disjoint sets (even disjoint and seperable!), although I think we all know that there is some overlap.

[NewHampster]

10. Thanks, Now I understand

Some Freeper morans are yankees fans and some yankees fans are freepers but because some dems are yankees fans that doesn't make them freepers but they could be morans.

[Parrcrow]

6. Not all yankee fans are freepers

but alot of freepers are yankee fans because it easier than thinking.

[Redneck Socialist]

9. Now,now let's play nice

I suspect that Yankee fans are suffering from a chemical imbalance in their brains. They may even be deranged but I prefer to think of them as simply misguided. I'm sure it's not really their fault.

Calling them freepers is just going to far. Them's fightin' words!

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

12. To say someone has a "chemical imbalance in one's brain" is pretty rude

and insensitive. If you aren't a fan of the Yankees, fine, but don't make light of someone who might have this affliction. That's like saying "that's retarded" (I find that offensive; one of my relatives was born mentally retarded (the doctor used forceps on him during delivery). Yeah, that's so funny, isn't it??).

[NewHampster]

13. We're just playing

sorry if you're offended but its Saturday night boredom and well, just lighten up a little or use that little x next to my name and put me on ignore.

and welcome again and watch this>>>

[jus_the_facts]

30. s'all the Yankees were doin' when they knocked the Sux outta the playoffs

....again last year...the curse O'the Bambino LIVES!! :hi:

*jus' jests* :evilgrin:

[Kathy in Cambridge]

11. Not all Yankee fans are freepers

but most freepers cheer for the Yankees because they have a perverse need to win since they are such losers.

[sir_captain]

14. This is silly

first of all, the Yankees haven't won the last 2 years, and until last year did not even have the highest payroll (that honor had been held by the Red Sox, Orioles, and Dodgers)

secondly, the yanks didn't win a thing between 1978 and 1996

as for the switching allegiances when one moves somewhere, well, i'd say those people are not real fans, and hence, you weren't really a yankee fan if you were able to stop rooting for them. a true fan of a team will stick with them through the good times, the bad times, and from whatever distance is necessary. i live in ny, and know plenty of people who root for the teams they grew up with elsewhere, and rightfully so. when i went to college in boston, i went to red sox games because i love baseball, but i was still a yankee fan...

also, in ny, at least, a large percentage of yankee fans are minorities. yankee stadium is in a heavily poor and dominican section of the south bronx (in fact, one of the very poorest congressional districts in the entire country) and there are not too many fatcat freepers around, i don't think.

[NewHampster]

15. silly yes, but needs a kick

:kick:

[NewHampshireDem]

18. Have you ever been to Yankee Stadium?

I have not, but from what I've seen on TV, there aren't too many non-white faces in the crowd.

And why are folks (not just you sir_captain, my captain) trying to make this into a serious discussion? Sheesh ... When you folks go to the ballpark and Yank-Mes fans start chanting "Red Sox Suck," do you turn to the fellow next to you and as "What do they suck?" Or do you say, "But, wait a moment, I am certain that in their hearts they are good people!"

So this is what I miss when I go to bed at 10:00 on a Saturday night? :)

[sir_captain]

19. i'd say that i average about 10 games a year

and believe me, there are infinitely more non-white faces than there are at fenway (i probably averaged about 10 games a year there when i lived in boston.) as for "red sox suck" chants, well, they're stupid, but that chant is just a stupid copycat of the "yankees suck" chants that are at fenway every game, regardless of if the yankees are there. my college roomate once remarked that if/when the sox finally win, they'll chant "yankees suck" at the parade!

anyway, yes, sorry...i realize that this thread wasn't supposed to be serious. i guess i have a certain level of resentment after being a yankee fan living in boston for a while ;-)

[NewHampshireDem]

20. No doubt about the non-white faces at Fenway

But Fenway isn't is Roxbury or Jamaica Plains, is it? Not to mention that it is the most expensive park in all of MLB, thanks to its small capacity.

And, Red Sox fans chant "Yankees Suck!" because, well, they do! ;) In fact, I'm chanting it right now.

[sir_captain]

22. hehe...i think we're at a bit of an impasse

as for the location of fenway, i think i'd argue it's a little bit more complicated than that. boston's history of segregation, etc, is pretty complicated. you don't see a whole lot of non-white faces on the red or green lines either, you know? but that discussion is probably for a different thread ;-)

anyway, good luck to you guys this year--it's always fun to watch you get your hopes up only to be dashed by aaron freaking boone!

[NewHampshireDem]

23. GL to you too

:)

[Chico Man]

29. You do on the Red Line to Ashmont

But not to Braintree.

But thats for a different thread :)

[mobuto]

31. There are lots of minorities in Boston

and the reason you don't see any at Fenway has nothing to do with Fenway's location and everything to do with the Boston RedSox's long and ignominious history of racism.

[JohnKleeb]

32. that is true

Its a shame honestly though, if Joe Cronin wasnt an idiot, they woulud have Jackie Robinson.

[sir_captain]

33. heh

i didn't want to get into all that, but you're absolutely right. red sox were by far the last team with a non-white player. there is definitely something ironic about the ramirez and martinez jersies in the fenway bleachers nowadays.

[JohnKleeb]

16. I love your avatar :)

I voted the third opition tho.

[NewHampster]

17. What about my weekend sig

cute or what

[NewHampshireDem]

21. Can't you make a big ..

BoSox logo crushing Derek Jeter? :)

[JohnKleeb]

28. As a non biased source (O's fan)

I think Nomar is the better shortstop of Nomar and Jeter. We got Tejada though :). Its so hard lol to name a bad O's shortstop.

[JohnKleeb]

27. excellent

dobre :)

[welshTerrier2]

24. well, mr. brookline

i also grew up a yankees fan ... and i never had any dislike for the red sox until i moved to massachusetts and had to put up with all the hostility many of the locals have for new yorkers ...

and what hypocrisy to complain about the yankees' payroll when the red sox are doing everything they can to spend their way to the top ... hardly a good role model ...

i suppose you also don't like the fact that the yanks got rodriguez ... the fact that the sox tried to get him is just fine, i guess ...

[NewHampshireDem]

35. The difference is ...

That the Sox would have had to give up two of their highest paid players--Nomar and Ramirez--to get him. Who did the Yanks give up ...

Ah, screw it ... Ortiz JUST HIT A HOMER! RED SOX WIN!!!!! :bounce:

[welshTerrier2]

37. rodriguez cost the yankees very little

the yanks are paying rodriguez $16 million / year ... they paid for this by having Drew Henson leave their farm system ($5 million), Boone getting dropped because of injury ($5 million) and trading Soriano who still wasn't a proven player ($5 million) ... the increase to payroll was a whopping $1 million ...

seems like a pretty good deal to me that actually cost the yankees very little ...

[sir_captain]

41. I wouldn't call giving up Soriano

chopped liver either! He is a back to back 30-30 second basemen, after all...easily the best player at his position in MLB

moneywise, it did end up largely being a wash

and you were also going to add in another high-paid player, magglio ordonez

congrats on the win today--it was a great game...watched it on the free preview of MLB extra innings

[jus_the_facts]

25. Wishin' my BABY a healthy and rewardin' 2004 season ;-P

....to the BEST shortstop playin' the game! :loveya:



photo courtesy of cnnsi.com

[Hemprus]

26. I have

watched the Yankees all my life. I understand the rivalry between Boston and New York. It is always the curse. Why do sports writers always have to bring up the curse? It is just the crutch that Boston fans need to be able to watch year in and year out. I have witnessed some of the best games between NYY and the Boston Red Sox. In the last two years the yearly series has been decided by one game. It used to be a grudge between the players in the 60's and 70's, now in the last few decades the grudge has been more between the fans. I think that the Boston fans are so frustrated, to have such good teams that haven't been able to go all the way. Maybe there is some kind of medication that can be prescribed for Boston fans. Even after the loss in game seven of the division series last year, some Boston fans that I know were already saying that the Red Sox were going to kick the Yankees butt next year. It's always the same story with them, they have no grip on reality. Just face the facts that when it come down to NY vs Boston, in any important game, NY wins!

[dmr]

34. Well ...

I've lived in South Florida and could not get into the Marlins. I wanted to, I missed MLB, but a National League team? The Marlins? No way! Ever been to a Marlin game in Miami? B-O-R-I-N-G ! I live in New York now, but could never be a Yank fan.

The only team in my world are my Tigers! SOCK IT TO 'EM, TIGERS! There was a time, way back when, where I'd be at Tiger Stadium 3 games out of a 4 game series, having a hell of a time, and be hoarse all summer! I've sat in all kinds of sections of the old ballpark, but there was nothing like the left field grandstands. I miss my Tigers. I'm returning back to Michigan in the next year or two, and can't wait to get to the new ballpark and root, root, root for the home team!



I voted number 3 in the poll, and will say this, if there weren't any Tigers, I could definitely get into the Bosox. Why? They are American League East and good adversaries. The National League doesn't exist for me, except for the All Star break, and the World Series.

SOCK IT TO 'EM, TIGERS! :)

[Ishoutandscream]

36. Gosh, I was called a "Bushivik" and a "lurker" when I said I was a Cowboy

fan. If you're from New York, chances are you are a Mets or Yankees fan. And if you are from Dallas, chances are you are a Cowboys fan. No disgrace in any of those things. And it certainly doesn't make you a freeper.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

38. Rooted for the Yanks all through the 80's and early 90's...Still a fan!

I grew up in NYC, and my parents are Yankees fans. Went to games every year, and grew up with the concept of "Donny-baseball." I had a Mattingly T-shirt, and thought that he was just SO cool.

Yes, I still am a Yankee fan. I hate the fact that all of the freeper-types have seemingly become Yankees fans, because now I have to defend my intelligence and character for merely enjoying the team that I grew up with, and still cheer for each april when the promise of "next year" may come true.

[NewHampshireDem]

39. The thread that just won't die ...

muhahahahaha :evilgrin:

[NewHampster]

43. Cool - this highly intellectual discussion is still going

I'll have to work on the Sox crushing Jeeter.

Do people approve of my Dem Donkey kicking th Yanks logo?

[sir_captain]

44. i prefer to think of it

as the rolling ball of yankee domination, but then it would be better if you changed the donkey to an elephant, of course :-)

[AntiCoup2K4]

40. Let's not forget that some Freepers detest New York AND the word "Yankee"

And in the words of the Freeper "prophet" Hank Williams Jr, "You can send me to HELL or New York City. It's all the same to me".

Yankee fans are idiots who defend a greedy corporatist swine who has ruined baseball. Freepers are idiots who defend greedy corporatist swine who have ruined the country. So they obviously do share a great deal in common, but that does not make them mutually inclusive.

[sir_captain]

42. how have the yankees ruined baseball?

this seems to me to be an argument made by people who don't really follow baseball. the yankees HAVE NOT won the last two years. until last year, they had a lower payroll than the red sox, dodgers, and orioles. this year is the first time in 15 years that the yankees have had MLB's highest paid player.

baseball's ratings are at the highest point since the 1994 strike. the yankees set a record last year for total attendance (home + away attendance)

this isn't even getting into how fabulous the yankees-red sox ALCS was this past season, or how having the yankees is good since everyone loves to hate them

gimme a break--dynasties are GOOD for sports

[NewHampster]

45. I don't think it the money

I think its the fact that virtually every ball player dreams of playing for the yanks. I can't blame them but it seems that no matter where they play and success they find, they're always thinking ahead to their years in the Bronx.

its a rotten imbalance that a salary cap may eventually help.

[sir_captain]

46. hey, who can blame em?

i'm not that into salary caps, mainly cause i don't really like the parity in the NBA, and particularly in the NFL. i hate that NFL teams have to cut players purely for cap reasons.

i think the money imbalance is overstated--somewhat. steinbrenner is mainly a shrewder businessman and more obsessed with winning than any other owner. the mets have the same natural market as the yankees, and the sox have been saddled by their terrible tv deals, and a lot of teams (like the mariners, for instance, who are owned by Nintendo) just don't spend money even though they have a lot more of it than Steinbrenner does.

It wasn't too long ago that no free agents wanted to go to the Bronx--i think they want to now more for the winning than the money, even.

On a side note, how messed up is it that guys like George Will advocate heavy financial regulation of baseball but the opposite in real life?

[NewHampster]

47. Guys like George always speak out of both sides

"On a side note, how messed up is it that guys like George Will advocate heavy financial regulation of baseball but the opposite in real life?"

Regulate Baseball but free Oil and Telecom

States Rights except when a repug is losing an election

and so on. It all has to do with the moment

[sir_captain]

49. yeah

i just wanted to point out yet another hypocrisy :-)

[dolo amber]

48. Are all people called

"NewHampster" asshats? :P

;)

[NewHampster]

50. Generally, Yes

Mostly during Mud season, blackfly season, mosquito season and that time in the late fall known as Yankee season

:hi:

[pstokely]

51. this one is

http://www.maggotpunks.com/antis/files/033.html

[NewHampster]

52. Damn

Nice link

[NewHampster]

53. ugly cuss too. this is old tho and I wonder how freepy he stil is

anti-abortion fanatic and Freeper Yankee fan

[pstokely]

59. doubt he's even been to a Yankee's game

nt

[Rabrrrrrr]

54. Yanks fan, not a freep, but if Yanks can't win DON'T want Cubs or Red Sox

to win.

If not the Yanks, I'd rather the Brewers.

[NewHampster]

55. The who?

go Red Stockings

[Rabrrrrrr]

56. No, not The Who

They're a rock band, not a baseball team.

The Brewers, I said. :spank:

:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

[NewHampster]

57. I'm just kickin Rabrrrrrr

before I head off to beddy bye

:kick:

[Rabrrrrrr]

58. Ouch!

You kicked me! That hurt. :-) :spank:

[LDS Jock]

60. Support the team with the best looking players.

I thought thats what everyone did.

[NewHampshireDem]

61. Or the best looking players' wives ...

Like Mia Hamm ... mmmm .... ham ....

Katrina Lowe is pretty too.

Oh, and, kick!