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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 12:32 PM
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Poll question: Is Conservative Underground purposely invading DU?
Edited on Sat Apr-10-04 01:21 PM by HypnoToad
I saw a few infiltrators this morning who I was all too happy to alert...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 12:43 PM
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 01:01 PM
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6. I've noticed this too, but couldn't quite grasp the problem
As I think you have. I think you're onto something.

Be vigilant.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 01:14 PM
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9. So what are you saying?
what is harmless about this post that you believe will be deleted? :tinfoilhat:

Trying to say anything about me personally? Don't be coy, spit it out. I'd love to hear it.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:43 PM
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14. I have them on Ignore
fly-under-the-radar-trolls do not fool me
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:45 PM
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15. Predictions and perception, oops.
Edited on Sat Apr-10-04 03:51 PM by HypnoToad
It's been 3 hours now and this thread hasn't been deleted. Oh well. It just goes to show how perception is a strange concept... I think you may have inadvertantly misread me. Or am I misreading you?

Indeed, and I may be wrong here, is your post trying to coyly suggest I am one who spreads disinformation professionally (in other words, are you suggesting I of all people am an infiltrator?) If so, please explain the basis for your accusation. What other perception can I have regarding your post, you own comment of "as will this one soon" speaks volumes when placed next to "...and any time I point out the post is delted." I genuinely don't know.

As for me personally, just to make sure you're perceiving me correctly, I am more likely to respond to information (accurate or otherwise) than to spread disinformation, professionally or otherwise. Indeed, I made this post in the lounge facetiously because I in fact visited CU and saw a post from one of theirs asking if we were invading them. Irony's a real kicker, ain't it? :D

But you are unequivocally correct about there being "agents provocateurs" on DU, for what little they're worth. (Please check your spelling of "provocateurs"...) Please go on questioning who is and who isn't a "professional disinformation agent", I'm sure you'll soon be back on track in no time. But I think you're wrong about me. Why not get to know me better, I'm usually a decent fellow... Just to make sure, I haven't taken your comment with ill will (and I can be a real potty mouth if need be). Indeed, I suspect we have a lot in common, it'd be interesting to get to know you better.

And now it's time for me to go back preparing my fricassee of goldfish with curry sauce... :-) If you wish to converse further, please send me a PM and I'll happily respond. Like I said, you sound like a cool guy and I genuinely love your use of the English (and French) language(s). With you as an acquintance, people such myself could only be edified.

Edit: Typos

Edit 2: Added some context to the sentence "Get to know me"...

Edit 3: Removed the two aphorisms. They could be misconstrued as being antagonistic/'inflammatory' behavior.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 12:43 PM
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2. Yes they are.
And they admit it as well. Just look at how many say they are regulars here.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 12:46 PM
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3. seems some people from here went over there...
slinkerwink -that was priceless,"tip of the ol`e hat to you"
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 12:48 PM
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4. I went over.
I am registered under the same user name.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 01:01 PM
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5. IMHO, it's a waste of everyone's time.
Anyone who has spent more than 6 months here at DU knows exactly who has DU 'authenticity' and who doesn't. Incognito freepers and CUers aren't fooling anyone.

Why someone would invest *so* much time to create an illusion; a political facade, is a mystery to me. This sort of malevolent behavior is probably not too good for a person's mental and spiritual health either...

Just my .02 cents.





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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 01:03 PM
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7. Unless they were paid to do so.
COINTELPRO is not so long ago, after all.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 01:18 PM
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10. Then we should educate people here about COINTELPRO...
and other 'nefarious' tactics. Gawd, to be paid to stir up shit - what a sick way to make a living. It reeks of desperation...

Appreciate your point though, downstairsparts. My question is: who benefits from such a tactic? and who funds it? Maybe DUers should be including those answers among these many threads about CU and freepers, etc. :hi:
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 01:11 PM
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8. I registered
Same user name. Sometimes I like to debate with those who hold views extremely different from my own.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 01:19 PM
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11. I just joined
and i'm sure my screen name will piss them off, i'll go have a looksee.
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 01:25 PM
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12. It's a game to avoiding boredom...
If they are infiltrating, it's because their particular game or show of choice hasn't started on TV yet.

(shrug)

Don't they have chores to do?
(Of course, the current typist here is just online for half hour or so taking a small break from Saturday morning chores while the rest of the family is sleeping, and deciding "should I waste the time and go out to get some peat pots to start a veggie/herb garden in the side yard of the complex - even though we plan to be moving in a couple months - or not?)

Yeah, the infiltration made me a bit curious and I went over there to look - and it's not an easy site to navigate for the casual peruser - typical to micro managers who want to seem in control without actually dealing with uncomfortable issues or having to maintain their system in a way visitors or others can participate - should they want to.

FWIW, I've found that most die-hard self-describing "conservatives" tend to lack coping skills that would enable them to survive should they lose their "positions of power" and have to deal with life outside the artificial reality they've created for themselves. Sure seems like any conflict they perceive can only be dealt with in rather simplistic, short-attention-span terms, rather than with a viewpoint that a situation should actually be addressed at root issues and adverse issues mitigated so that the situation doesn't keep coming back and biting one's ass harder and harder each time.

Oh, dang - I've been using the big words again, treating the neo-con mindset as if I were dealing with fellow adults who have actually had to fix problems before instead of just bitching about discomforts and expecting other people to clean up the mess they made.

Real Conservatives don't run off half-assed and get into trouble in the first place - Real Conservatives understand that if one invests value into all the aspects one's project, takes into account reality and makes contingencies for "surprises" - and egos - before one starts a project, one doesn't have to deal with the fall-out.
And Real Conservatives can admit failure, work to clean up the mess they made, and start back all over - they try to understand what created the failure, they take RESPONSIBILITY for their actions as well as delegate responsibility to others for their part in a failure. To a Neo-Con - as to any other fanatical ideal or cult follower (including those who call themselves "true liberals"), failure is simply not an option that can be admitted.

And that's what I've found most telling at this particular site. As usual, it's everyone else's fault. And of course, their particular viewpoint is always right.

Ah well. Guess I gotta get off the net and wake up the twelve year old and deal with her "I'm always right, I don't have to do anything and should get everything I want, and you grown-ups are gross, slow, mean and stupid" attitude as we (hubby and I) try to get her to do her dishes and pick up her room before we can have family and relaxation time this weekend.

Haele




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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:13 PM
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13. Mini-Free, the little FreeRepublic wannabe.
Who cares what these reality deniers think or say?
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Van Helsing Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:48 PM
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16. It's pretty sad that people would do juvenile things like that.
Why do they waste their time? Get a life, says I.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:53 PM
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17. Actually I think it's an accident
It's no surprose Bob Boudelang can't spell :P
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Intelsucks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:56 PM
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18. Judging by what they are saying over there
the "invasion" happened long before CU came along.

I even saw someone post a "DU survival kit" for freepers. he claims that he has been a DU'er for over a year and has over 2000 posts. He calls himself DUMole007. Hmmm...

http://www.conservativeunderground.com//forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3680
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 04:45 PM
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19. Who cares? I don't. If they have to lie to stay...let em pretend to be
liberals. Regardless of what they may say, which I am sure is close to Freerepublic, there are not bunches of them walking around DU posting whatever they choose. As a former mod, I know you guys are better than that with the alert button. Let them have their circle jerk...I'm getting back to the business at hand...trouncing Bush!!! :hi:
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