GLBT Du'ers How do You Feel About the B/T

[La Lioness Priyanka]

Under the GLBT Banner? I ask because i often see Conservative gays and lesbians protest to the B/t part of the movement.


Non LGBT Du'ers can also add in their comments :)

[sniffa]

1. as a b i'm for it

don't know what eLse to add to it. :shrug:

[ncrainbowgrrl]

3. Here's another "b" for LGBTQ unity

Q standing for Queer or Questioning, either way, still important to the overall cause.

[Laughing Mirror]

2. How could any gay or lesbian possibly protest bi- and transgenders?

We are supposed to be fighting the same fight. We are all in this together. When I became part of the movement in the late 60s we called each other our brothers and sisters. What are we now? Half brothers and half sisters?

I want to include every living oppressed person in my fight for change. How could we gay and lesbians even consider excluding anybody? It is about inclusion not exclusion and that is the message that we must get that through their numbskull brains.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

6. i agree with you

but i have seen arguments against including us in various artickles by conservative and middle of the road homosexuals

i think they think that Bisexuals and trannies somehow make the cause less strong!

[Laughing Mirror]

13. You have? Then argue right back at them that they are wrong.

We should be trying to expand our alliances (prisoners, the handicapped, for example) rather than contract it.

What is wrong with gays and lesbians who would want to do this? That it would somehow hurt their pocketbooks or make them look bad to the straight world? I just don't get where anybody with that attitude is coming from, except if they are themselves homophobes, which as you surely must know, there is a lot of in the gay community.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

16. i do argue

but who has time to waste on Andrew Sullivan types

[DarkPhenyx]

4. It amuses me that persecuted groups...

...feel the need to persecute, deride, denigrate, or otherwise discriminate against another group, usually a subset of themselves.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

7. glad to know it amuses you!

[DarkPhenyx]

12. I quit being annoyed by it long ago.

As hypocrasy goes it's a fairly low key hypocrasy most of the time.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

15. i see...that sort of makes sense

[pagerbear]

5. I'm supportive of Bs, Ts, and Qs

...and it mystifies me that some G/L folks aren't. Seems that straights and conservatives aren't the only people who think everyone/everything should fit neatly into pigeonholes that they themselves understand.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

8. it mystifies me too

and angers me as well!

[pagerbear]

11. To add to my point....

Why should anyone have to fit into just one pigeonhole? For that matter, why should anyone have to fit into the same pigeonhole tomorrow s/he fits into today? Why should anyone have to know right now what pigeonhole s/he fits into?

If this is someone I care about, I support him/her in his/her process, regardless of the outcome. Otherwise, what business is it of mine?

[indigo32]

9. I'm fully supportive of the BT part of the banner

I believe we ALL deserve to be treated fairly.

[Bertha Venation]

10. Bisexuals and Transgenders belong with us.

I don't understand how anyone can see it any other way.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

14. neither do I

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

17. If a glbt said "no b/t" wouldn't that be like a black civil rights protest

keeping light skinned blacks from participating?

It's one struggle.

[Deja Q]

18. How many people should we lump in? And when why segregate again?

I mean:

It started as Gay

Then others joined in:

Lesbian
Bi
Transgender

And then some other people added an "A" to "GLBT" making "GLBTA". A means "Ally". (WTF?! What next, giving heterosexuals "honoarary GLBT" diplomas? Oh, they did that in Minneapolis with R T Rybak, I need to dig up that Lavender issue...)

Of course, we now have another problem with how the letters are aligned. Nooo, GLBT isn't good enough. Let's scramble the letters. LGBT, TBLG, and so on. What a crock of cattle cack, let's just make it BGLT in frigging alphabetical order and forget about it, this is insane.

And then if that all isn't enough :eyes: , sigh, some drunk 1950s segregationist waltzed in to expand on things even more: we have "White GLBT", "Black GLBT", and so on... doesn't that defeat the point of lumping us all together when everybody then starts separating us by skin color, once again?!

Just call us "Non-heteros" and be done with it. The big acronym to lump us all together combined with re-separating us along the lines of skin color is beyond my "stupidity tolerance threshold".

Hell, let's face a simple fact: This acronym business is beyond asinine. We're all human, why the halliburton do we invent religions and other mad schemes to get everybody to hate each other, instead of trying to understand differences?! Just treat each other respect, even if their being brown in color or homosexual in sexuality freaks ya out. Duh. When people get to know each other, prejudice tends to fade.