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Stargazer99 Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 03:05 PM
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Who is the real problem
It just dawned on me this morning. The rich and well to do are the problem, not the teachers, firefighters, etc. The "upper class" has successfuly gas lighted the middle class. The rich do not want to pay any taxes but use are government systems that benefit their profits. I don't know about you but I am getting damn tired of my "betters" and I think it is time for Joe Six Pac to question the ideals he has. He might find he has been brain-washed.
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Tobin S. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 03:30 PM
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1. Everyone wants to protect their interests
Edited on Sat Jun-25-11 03:49 PM by Tobin S.
The problem is that a lot of people don't really know where their true interests lie. I think that is especially true of many working class people. I work with a bunch of guys who make $30,000 to $50,000 a year- they are working class. But just about all of them identify with Republicans. They would directly benefit from liberal Democratic social policies, but if they vote at all it will be for dickheads like Bush. They're just ignorant.

The rich don't seem to understand where their true interests lie either, aside from a few rogues. Greed rules them, "Give me tax cuts or give me death!" What they don't understand is that they need to give something back to the people who made them wealthy (the poor, working, and middle classes) in order for society to remain healthy. They will maintain a lofty lifestyle for a longer period of time if everyone has what they need. We are living in a society where fewer and fewer people are able to obtain just the basics, let alone have enough to feel a sense of security.

Conservatives think that without the wealthy a society lives in poverty. Liberals know that without the lower classes there are no wealthy people. The working class is truly the machine, and is treated like one, that runs capitalism. We have it within our power to change the world to a vastly better place, but not enough working people know it. And that's just the way the rich would like to keep things.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 03:44 PM
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2. Also why I like many story tellers and singers.
Edited on Sat Jun-25-11 04:15 PM by RandomThoughts
That give back much as they do there work, or at least in how I see it.

However it is completely possible to avoid brainwashing when learning from stories, first ignore the nouns, and find the actions, and think on those actions you agree with, and those you would choose not to do.

Then think if you life includes those actions, or if you are only sliding along.


I find it fascinating, that what some might think brainwashed some people, I see differently in many inspired ways, not different then the intent of many songs of stories and songs but just seeing things in many different ways, not better or worse, but definitely thoughtful in a way the stories and songs also are.


Billy Idol - Eyes Without A Face
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OFpfTd0EIs

Going to California by Led Zeppelin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpVLlnQ08OA



Brothers in Arms - Dire Straits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5JkHBC5lDs

Bonnie Raitt - I Can't Make You Love Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW9Cu6GYqxo

Bonnie Raitt - Nick Of Time
http://www.123video.nl/playvideos.asp?MovieID=407128

Dire Straits - Walk of Life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZxVC0GB838


Constantine - Bring me to life (Evanescence)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx8d3K_hngw




On an interesting side note, there is an Outerlimits episode I remember from years ago, that explains that 'alien doctrine' is an attempt to move the supernatural back to the normal. It has a picture of the grey, a person with big glasses, and that is before the urban myth of Greys entered 'culture' from many shows.

In that episode a guy gets hit by 'sun storm radiation' he gets big eyes, and walks around with the big black glasses that is the image of the 'greys' in popular culture. The whole idea is really a metaphor.

The greys in popular culture is a metaphor, big black eyes, is part of it, but also small mouth. That metaphor comes from a judgmental faction that thinks some things are nightmares, it is not about aliens, even the 'alien doctrines' in some more mainstream ideas was created to hide that the supernatural exists.

Basically the 'greys' are a metaphor for those that don't see everything as black and white, that can see much, but that some call having dark eyes, others might say it is sunglasses to be able to see light. It is a mixed metaphor, becuase it is meant to insult, but I don't see it that way, when seeing colors in greys, not black and white, it seems to allow for seeing much good in some things people think are bad for there own biases.

Queen - Flash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNf9rEPoc8Q

It is from the episode with this guy in it, it explains a view that gets created from the multiple themes of 'eyes' 'voice' ideas of losing humanity, and many other things. But it is not about aliens, in my view, it never was.




Or maybe that was from the end of the movie 'Total Recall'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZN5_zyX4oU

:shrug: who knows :)
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