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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:07 AM
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Post your estimates of how much it would cost to fix Condi's teeth.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:08 AM
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1. $1500...
veneers on the front four teeth...easy...
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:13 AM
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5. LOL-- I charge $4000 for anterior 4 veneers
But I would charge more for that cretin, IF I agreed to do it (which I wouldn't.. and besides.. she needs orthodontic treatment as well, IMO.)

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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:08 AM
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2. There's plenty to criticize her about
Without criticizing her looks.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:11 AM
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3. I'm sorry, but I'm not that good of a person. I'll make fun of her.
She deserves it. And her side would do it to us.
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KurtNilsen Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:35 AM
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27. Exactly....
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:12 AM
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4. Would that be before or after...
...she lies through them?
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:58 AM
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22. Now THAT was funny, Mary Pat!


:7 :you rock: :7
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:51 AM
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46. brilliant !
:thumbsup:
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:14 AM
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6. That's a stupid reason to flame her....
that puts you right up there with the Freepers criticizing Chelsea's looks.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:16 AM
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7. No it doesn't
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 12:19 AM by Mika
It puts Condi in the category of having lots of money but doesn't have the corrective treatment, and doesn't listen to her health care practitioner (DDS in this case) - or is too cheap to.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:20 AM
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8. The counterargument goes...
that Chelsea could afford plastic surgery, but didn't have it. It's Freeperish thought.

People need to get over this whole "how people look" thing.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:21 AM
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10. Could we not be doing Dr. Rice a favor?
If we make fun of her enough, she'll get them fixed. Maybe feel better about herself and turn into a liberal.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:23 AM
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11. Nope. Chelsea was a minor, and had no problem needing correction
Condi is an adult who is a very public figure.

If you are rich, going to be a public figure by choice, and have snaggled yellow teeth.. expect comments.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:27 AM
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14. Chelsea is very much an adult....
and still a public figure now. Don't believe me? If she got busted for DUI, it'd be front page news.

Judge and criticize people for what they do, not for what they look like.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:31 AM
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16. Chelsea is a public figure by her choice?
No. Her dad's career put her in the spotlight -'twasn't her choice.

Besides, she was a minor when she was in the White House/Washington spotlight.

She's an adult now - and lookin mighty fine (her smile too).
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:38 AM
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18. Who said anything about choice?
She's famous. The reason why is immaterial.

Look, bashing people because of how they look is silly. It's that kind of crap that leads young women into things like bulemia. There are tons of reasons to insult Condi based upon her conduct. Doing it over her appearance is stupid, just as criticizing people because of their skin tone is stupid. So, she may not be beautiful according to societal norms, and she may get food stuck there. Who gives a rat's ass? Hopefully, she didn't get the job because of her looks. Well, maybe she did. If that's the case (that she got the job only because she was an African-American woman and not because of her credentials), it was stupid to hire her on that basis.

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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:42 AM
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20. Who's bashing?
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 12:47 AM by Mika
She needs dental work. Period.

This thread is "Post your estimates of how much it would cost to fix Condi's teeth."


My professional estimate is $4000 plus.

What's your estimate?



If one is rich, and chose to be a public figure, and have snaggled yellow teeth.. expect comments.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:50 AM
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21. $0.00. I don't think they need fixed.
Of course, I'm not a big fan of "cosmetic" medical procedures, but hey, that's not my rice bowl. YMMV.

My teeth are not perfect (they're a bit crowded on the bottom), but they're not rotting and they're good enough to serve their purpose while not being a disfigurement. I refused to have braces, because frankly I thought it was a waste of money.
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mulethree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:43 AM
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24. Bravo
Seriously we need to foster more of that attitude if we're going to live on "Global Economy" wages. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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KurtNilsen Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:40 AM
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28. I don't know too much about dental work.
But, it seems to me based on a quick diagnosis that someone is in need of some mental work and therapy.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:05 AM
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35. Well, as the saying goes..
.. Ignore your teeth, and they'll just go away. ;-)





... because our Bonesman is better than their Bonesman

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KurtNilsen Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:45 AM
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29. What is this?
The national socialistic underground?

*shakes my head*
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:24 AM
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12. I always thought Chelsea looked fine.
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 12:25 AM by MikeG
But she was a teenager. Condi is much older and is fair game.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:52 AM
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47. Dental work != Plastic surgery
There's a world of difference.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:21 AM
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9. ...or doesn't want to
Like David Letterman and Lauren Hutton.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:27 AM
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13. Letterman has the worst caps I've seen on a rich man
Lauren Hutton won the ADA's "Most natural look" award several years ago for KEEPING her natural, clean, & healthy anterior teeth and gums.

Condi has yellow front teeth w/ the left central broken and repaired (badly, IMO) with direct light cured composite resin.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:31 AM
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17. Ooof...
Obviously, you have a pro's eye for details. Condi's pearlies always look white to me... and I didn't know Dave sported caps.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:24 AM
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32. Her Malocclusion Needs Correction First
Her bite is so bad she can't close her mouth easily.
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KurtNilsen Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:23 AM
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25. Seriously........Your post...where you actually come up with
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 03:26 AM by KurtNilsen
a serious argument as to why it is ok to critisize Condi because she is ugly... I am just absolutely shocked.. I heard americans talking about Kurt Nilsens teeth after he won world idol, and I heard the same stuff.. "Well he sang allright, but what kind of dork looks like that (Kurt has a large gap between his front teeth). This was at the american idol message board, and I thought that, oh well, the entire country isn't that sick and twisted...It's probably some little 14 year old conservative elitist snobb.


Reading you write this on a liberal message board like DU, is just the saddest possible start I could have had to a day. I have tears in my eyes. America might be lost...Whatever happens in October...
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:09 AM
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36. We're not criticizing Condi because she's ugly
We're criticizing the horrid conditions in her mouth. Her front teeth stick straight out, man! And God only knows what periodontal horrors lurk where we can't see them!
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:40 AM
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19. Condi is a Federal Employee
And thus we taxpayers would pay to fix her teeth. A reasonable question IMHO.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:30 AM
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15. I'll use a Mike Malloy line, I really hate these people.
They've caused the deaths of innocent people and maimed others unnecessarily. They deserve every arrow in our arsenal including ridicule.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:58 AM
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23. Any good blacksmith would remove them for two bucks - cash
That would take what little bite she had away.
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KurtNilsen Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:33 AM
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26. How in the world's name can be so shallow?
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 04:49 AM
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31. What's sad...
is that when the Freepers start insulting Kerry on his looks again, some of the people here insulting Condi will be upset about it without seeing the hypocrisy.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:27 AM
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33. Well, Truthfully...
I have said some unkind things about Kerry's looks, and if his teeth were noticeably badly aligned, I'd bag on that too. His looks won't stop me from voting for him.
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KurtNilsen Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:36 AM
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34. FWIW- A thread like this only serves to disgrace DU and DUers
and Americans.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:12 AM
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37. Why post on this thread then? Start your own thread
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 09:14 AM by Mika
This thread is "Post your estimates of how much it would cost to fix Condi's teeth."


There is no request to insult Condi's looks, just a request for an estimate of cost.


Its a shame and a disgrace that some DUers have to twist every thread into attacks on other DUers motives.


My profession is dentistry. Repairing broken, discolored, maloccluding, and missing teeth is my forte.

No need to insult me for giving my 2 cents (actually an informed opinion) on a treatment plan estimate. Shame on you.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:41 AM
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43. Braces cost about 5k, would she still need the caps if she got braces?
She could fix the color with a $30 box of White Strips.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:49 AM
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30. 87 Billion...
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:16 AM
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38. This thread makes me sad
As someone with fucked up teeth and no $$ or insurance to fix them, I think it sucks that y'all want to bash someone about this. While there are a multitude of things to bash Condi about, this is just rotten. :thumbsdown:

So in closing, fuck all y'all...
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:29 AM
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40. Why is asking for a cost estimate "bashing"?
I'm sorry to hear about your dental situation. We need a nationalized and universal health/dental care system here in America.

Where is the bashing in the lead post? Some DUers have responded w/bashing, but the thread title is a request for an estimate of cost.

Would it be bashing you to give you a rough estimate of the costs of the dentistry you need?

Back on topic.. 4 high quality porcelain veneers for Condi would cost $4000 - $5000 in Miami.

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EV1Ltimm Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:28 AM
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39. screw condi, how much will it cost to fix mine?
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lucky777 Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:30 AM
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41. This offends me
and I'm not easily offended. My girlfriend has bad teeth -- she should have gotten braces as a child but she grew up in a foreign country and their family had troubles so she couldn't get the care she needed. Now her teeth are crowded and she may need lots of work, at age 29. She works really hard to support her family, and is a really sweet person. She's very pretty, excellent figure (size 2) but the only thing wrong with her is her teeth. I worry about how it must feel for her to be in need of dental work. We're doing everything we can, but it is very painful. So this isn't very funny to me. I'm trying to judge people on the content of their character. When I was younger I judged people on their looks and it made me a really pathetic person, because people simply get worse looking as they get older (myself included), so we need to focus on character.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:50 AM
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45.  how it must feel for her to be in need of dental work
"I worry about how it must feel for her to be in need of dental work."

Thank you for recognizing and putting forth one of the reasons of the importance of cosmetic dentistry. Its part of (some of) our self image - especially in America. Many studies have been done as to the life impact of bad dentition - physiologically and psychologically and economically. Obviously this important to not just your girlfriend, but to you and her family as well. Bravo to your sensitivity.

In this day and age, in this nation, we should have a national universal high quality medical and dental system for all. We won't get any such things so long as we don't think that it is important.

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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:40 AM
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42. Please Stop!
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 09:40 AM by rpalochko
This is way to Limbaugh like. There are many substantive reasons to go after her without stooping to this nonsense.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:53 AM
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48. This thread is (or was) about dentistry costs, not bashing
"Stooping" to estimating costs of dentistry?



Ignore your teeth, and they'll just go away.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:00 AM
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50. I agree witht Mika on this one...
every day kids get extimates on how much it would cost to fix teeth, whats the big deal?

I had horribly crooked teeth all my life, now I have 5 veneers (cost less where I live)...so what?

I'm all for making the option available to people who cant afford it, absolutely...Condi can...it was a question, not an insult...
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:01 AM
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51. Holy Cow
You dont really belive that do you?
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:09 AM
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53. Dentistry is my profession. I'm asked it ALL the time
I see people every day who are seeking answers to their questions about dentistry - both in the office and outside of the office. If I had a nickel for every time someone has asked me to give them a dental estimate I'd be a rich man. I see no ad hominem attack in seeking answers to questions about dentistry.

NOWHERE in my posts will you find me criticizing the diastema (the space) between Condi's centrals. No problems with that. It's the bad repair on her broken left central that I think needs to be fixed (as well as some possible need for orthodontics and occlusal adjustments).
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:10 AM
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54. Exactly
I have little faith that the original poster's intentions were simply to do a financial analysis of Condi's dental needs. Give me a fucking break. I guess some people missed the thread a few days ago where other lovely DUers analyzed her hair and skin problems as well. :eyes:
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StayOutTheBushes Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:46 AM
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44. Ad hominem attacks are so useful.
.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:58 AM
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49. As is your post
What is your estimate of the dental cost? (That's what this thread's subject is.)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:04 AM
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52. When you lie through them at the rate she does why fix 'em?
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:17 AM
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55. shouldn't she also lighten her skin?
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