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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 06:52 PM
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Heading to S Calif this week for vacation, need advice.
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 06:53 PM by Angleae
Where to eat primarily, but I'm open to suggestions on places to visit (I'll be there for 3 weeks).

Note: I'll be staying in Buena Park but will be visiting from LA to SD.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 10:07 PM
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1. Take an umbrella.
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 10:33 PM
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2. There should not be much rain. Any place. There are 10 million
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 10:40 PM by david13
restaurants around here. Most are reasonable good.
And, enjoy.
For good burgers & fries, try In N Out. There are all around.
dc
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:14 PM
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3. Honestly, this area of the country is not known for it's outstanding food, imo.
The sushi and other fresh fish tend to be pretty good.

I often use the site roadfood.com to find odd and out of the way places that have something special to offer at reasonable prices.

I would suggest you consider taking the ferry over to Catalina for a day or overnight. It's a beautiful island and Avalon is a quaint town, particularly in the winter. You can take the ferry from Long Beach or Dana Point, both between LA and SD.

It is the "rainy season", but take that with a grain of salt., because it rains very infrequently here. The days have been pretty mild recently, but the temperatures tend to drop precipitously at night.

Enjoy!
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:41 PM
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4. Garden Grove is known as "little Saigon"
lots of Vietnamese restaurants

Not too far from Buena Park

Maybe start with http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/528370 for ideas

Here in the Los Angeles area, you can get Indian in Artesia, Chinese in the Monterey Park/Montebello area, Korean in Koreatown, and Persian in Westwood
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:58 PM
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5. Well, here's some...
When in San Diego, try Burger Lounge (5 locations). Way better than the overhyped In-N-Out, in my opinion, but more expensive. ($7.95 for the burger alone, but worth it). Mexican food could almost be considered southern California's specialty cuisine, there is a taco shop almost on every block, a sit-down Mexican restaurant in every neighborhood, and so many choices of where to get it that you should study yelp.com in advance to find some that people are recommending in the area you will be at.

California has it all... beaches, mountains, deserts, farmlands, cities, towns, culture, history, sports, theme parks, whatever you want, it's probably somewhere in California. There's so much variety and such great quantity that it's hard to choose. It really depends on what interests you.

Personally I believe the 3 best things in California are Yosemite Valley, Point Lobos State Natural Reserve and Disneyland. I'm sure others will argue and there are many other good things to see and do, but those are the three world-class-level sights California has.

You could consider a loop drive for a few days which would take you north from the LA area to Yosemite, spend a full day in Yosemite Valley, then drive west over to the coast, spend a few hours at Point Lobos, then drive the spectacular Highway 1 south from there through the Big Sur country, then go back to southern California. Yosemite Valley can be reached in about a 7-hour drive from Buena Park.

Julia Pfeiffer Burns State Park in Big Sur has a gorgeous cove with a waterfall that lands on the beach (though you can't go down to the beach, you can look at it from a platform). If you pay the day use parking fee at one state park or reserve, it is valid for all other state parks or reserves on the same day. The 90 miles of Highway 1 from Carmel to San Simeon is one of the world's great coastal drives. I think Yosemite Valley is California's best feature and should be visited by everyone at least once. The whole trip could be done in 4 to 5 days.

There is plenty of snow in the mountains right now, if skiing or snowboarding interest you. The San Bernardino National Forest has 3 ski areas (Snow Valley, Snow Summit and Bear Mountain) within about a 2-hour drive of Buena Park. The Palm Springs Aerial Tramway takes you from the desert floor to the top of Mount San Jacinto, currently a winter wonderland of snow-clad forest at the top. Wildflowers are starting to come into bloom in the deserts. Anza-Borrego State Park east of San Diego, and Joshua Tree National Park north of Palm Springs are two good places for wildflowers in the spring. The drive from San Diego to Mount Laguna, along Sunrise Highway to Julian (a historic town now known for apple pie) and down into Anza-Borrego is a great drive. At this time of year it's possible to go surfing in the morning (with a wet suit), drive one hour and go cross-country skiing at Mount Laguna, then drive another hour and go dirt-biking in the desert. No other place in the world is that possible in such a short time that I know of. Death Valley National Park is another possibility, though that is quite a way out of the way. Grand Canyon National Park is one of the wonders of the natural world and is a day's drive from southern California.

If dirt biking and off-roading is your thing, head out to Glamis, 3 hours east of San Diego, a huge area of sand dunes with thousands and thousands of people riding all over them every weekend. There are other such areas in the deserts, but that's the biggest "mecca." You can rent the vehicles there too, although I have no idea how much it costs. If you're interested in ocean activities, you can take deep-sea fishing trips from Dana Point in southern Orange County, or it's not too late for a whale-watching cruise if that interests you.

I think one of the best tourist attractions in southern California is the Huntington Library, at San Marino, near Pasadena. Besides the library (Gutenberg Bible) and the art gallery (Gainsborough's "The Blue Boy") they also have - and I think it is the main draw - 120 acres of gardens in 14 themes. It is a beautiful place, and it will probably be starting to come into spring bloom now. It is only $15 on weekdays, but their hours are short, like noon to 4:30. For more details see http://www.huntington.org/

If theme parks interest you, there is Disneyland and Disney California Adventure, Universal Studios Hollywood, Knott's Berry Farm (right there in Buena Park) and Six Flags Magic Mountain, which has the most big roller coasters and thrill rides. In fact, when the 2 new ones there are open this summer, Magic Mountain will have the most roller coasters of any theme park in the world. This is a very good time to go to those parks, since they are uncrowded and lines will be short.

In San Diego, you may want to visit La Jolla Cove, Torrey Pines State Reserve and Cabrillo National Monument are all worth your time, and are either free or low-cost. Cabrillo is only $5 for the car and has spectacular views, historical exhibits, an old lighthouse, and tidepools to explore at low tide. Of course the San Diego Zoo, the San Diego Safari Park, and Sea World. If you like animals, I think the San Diego Zoo is a must-see. If you go there, go first thing in the morning when the animals are more active. There are also many museums nearby, and some gardens which are free. The Botanical Building (featured briefly in "Citizen Kane") is free and has rare orchids and other tropical plants.

San Diego's "signature dish" is the fish taco, and there are many good places to get them, but one of the best is actually bar very close to the ocean, the South Beach Bar & Grille in the Ocean Beach neighborhood of San Diego. Ocean Beach is the "hippie" neighborhood of generally-conservative San Diego, the neighborhood where DUers would meet if they had a meetup, the place where someone is probably buying a bong at The Black or a Doors album on vinyl at one of the record stores at this moment. The South Beach Bar & Grille is the last business on Newport Avenue before the beach starts. It is very crowded during the happy hour when the food is cheaper, so I would go there for lunch. They accept cash only! But the fish tacos are outstanding, and they always have several beers you have never heard of on special that day. After eating there, take a stroll on the Ocean Beach pier, the longest fishing pier on the west coast.

There's much more in San Diego, the USS Midway Museum which is a decommissioned aircraft carrier, the Maritime Museum, which is a collection of ships including 2 submarines and the Star of India, the world's oldest working ship. There are many good beaches in southern California. I think some of the prettiest and best are Windansea Beach in La Jolla (the beach made famous by Tom Wolfe's book "The Pump House Gang," Coast Boulevard Park in La Jolla, La Jolla Cove, the famous Black's Beach, formerly (and still unofficially) a nude beach, north of La Jolla, the huge and relatively unspoiled San Onofre State Beach near San Clemente, and the beautiful, unspoiled Crystal Cove State Park near Laguna Beach.

Close to Buena Park, you might visit the Tucker Wildlife Sanctuary in the hille east of Orange (my hometown) and the large, old Irvine Regional Park also in those same hills. There is a lot more to see and do in Orange County besides the Disney parks and Knott's and the beaches. For more on Orange County, see http://www.visittheoc.com/ and http://www.orangecounty.net/html/visitor.html For places to eat, you'll have to rely on local recommendations and sites such as http://yelp.com , http://chowhound.com and http://tripadvisor.com

Enjoy your California vacation!

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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 12:24 AM
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6. This! ...is a phenomenal post. I also second the Catalina suggestion above
Other things I'd add are the Getty Center or Getty Villa if you like museums (the villa is perhaps more unique), a visit to Olvera Street, Union Station, and Phillipe's in LA, the La Brea tar pits and museum are really interesting, and a visit to a mission is a nice look at CA history (if you're north of Santa Barbara, I like La Purisima)...
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:40 AM
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15. Wow.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 02:38 PM
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17. OT......... Having a brain meltdown
What is the name of the fish that rides the waves in and lays eggs in the beach sand and then rides the waves back out again??

Thank you
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:05 PM
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18. Are you thinking of grunion?
:hi:
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:11 PM
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19. Yes I am ........... thank you
I spent one day at Ocean Beach and saw the run..........could not remember the name
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denbot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 02:10 AM
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7. In the nearby city of Orange is a traffic circle.
Just off the circle is a Cuban restaurant called Felix's. Very good Cuban food for this part of the country.

Check for surf lessons, since you are in So Cal try it out.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 03:21 PM
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9. Ha, my neck of the woods.
Check out the Bruery Provisions store there - phenomenal beers. :beer:
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 10:59 PM
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13. I've visited the circle many times
I lived in Orange from 1964 to 1977 and I've been all around there. The "Orange Circle" as we called it (formerly "Orange Plaza" but we always called it the Orange Circle) has been used as a backdrop in several movies including the first "Gumball Rally" filmed in 1976 as well as some TV shows. It looks like a Midwestern small town rather than a typical suburban southern California suburb. The fountain in the center of the circle was first built in 1886, and replaced in 1937. There are many antique shops surrounding the plaza, and oddly there are 2 Starbucks locations at the circle too. It's really a nice little town.
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denbot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:56 PM
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20. Do you remember the Circle Bar?
It was just off the northwest "corner". I had many a good time there back in the day.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 03:19 PM
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8. If you want places to hang out...
In LA, Hermosa Pier and the Third St. Promenade in Santa Monica are absolute musts. If you want to get away from the tourists, try Newport Pier or Torrance Pier. In San Diego - Pacific Beach and Ocean Beach are great places - tons of great bars and restaurants in those areas.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 09:22 PM
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10. Some of Los Angeles...
Take the 5 freeway up to Sunset Blvd then Sunset Blvd. going west. The 5 freeway is like a NASCAR race only the lanes are narrower. And Hollywood not all that beautiful but profound and interesting all the same. You will go past some of the old studios including Sunset Gower, a glimpse of Western Costume, the Paladium, the so 1960's Cineramadome,.. put on Randy Newman's 'I Love L.A.', roll down the windows, cruise. It isn't beautiful but it gets better mile by mile. Key Hollywood institutions are clustered right before you get to the Strip: the Director's Guild, etc. Then you come to the Sunset Strip. This area was unincorporated until the 1970s and was a center for vice at one time. Now it is hip and upscale with only bronzed trophies of its bohemian past.

When it straightens out around Larabee you hit the Viper Room and the Whiskey A Go Go, the Roxy and On the Rox. You cross Doheny then Sunset bends again now you are in Beverly Hills. Funny how the highest priced hookers used to be right next to Bev Hills...(no, actually it makes sense). This area may look more familiar, The Beverly Hills Hotel comes on the right but is hard to see without going up the semi circle drive (so go up the semi circle). Maps to the Stars Homes anyone ? Around a golf course, some winding turns then you are at UCLA. You can loop the campus without paying.

Back to Sunset, Across the 405 and now you're in Bel Air, bigger props, higher fences. Eventually Sunset connects to Pacific Coast Highway. Go to Kettle of Fish and have a fish taco on the deck while sitting next to Woody Harrelson.

LA is a great place to see a concert and tickets are cheap. Just go and buy from some unlucky person who's friend didn't show up (not from a scalper). Wait until the opening band is on -- tickets get real cheap then. If you can see a show at the Hollywood Bowl bring dinner and booze (because you can). The Greek is great if the weather is good, probably not now. And Universal Amphitheater has great acoustics and sightlines.

Knot's Berry Farm is cooler than Disneyland -- more character. Catalina and the ride out there is a great place to see sealife, dolphins, sea lions, reefs all that. Try the sub ride if you aren't claustrophobic.

Santa Monica and Venice are also pretty cool. Very 1930s. Laguna Beach is very cool. Eat any place that is crowded and look for celebs on the beachside basketball court.
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 09:33 PM
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11. Disneyland? Please. Now, Catalina Island? In the winter?? No.
Way too cold, and not much fun in the rain. Plus with bad weather, the boats might not run; they were not running just last week.
Philippes, yes. Downtown LA
Getty, yes, either one.
(Don't forget there are two, folks.)
Anyway, have fun; I think they have now given you about 3 years worth of sightseeing to do.
dc
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:12 AM
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14. Just because you lack an appreciation
of the original Disneyland with its history, beauty and intricate detail does not mean it is worthless or inappropriate for the original poster of this thread to consider, since he will be very close to it. And this is a great time of year to go there. My friend is running in the Catalina Marathon on March 12th... and she's 65. And Catalina is one of the few places in California to see bison.
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 10:19 AM
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16. I was one of the first people to visit Disneyland. And I found it to be
grossly over rated.
Today I certainly see no history, beauty or intricate detail to it, but instead crass commercialism, destruction of nature and natural beauty and conversion of it into phony plastic commerce, crass huckersterism if you will. And if you won't, I will.
My idea of a California adventure would not be their phony replication of reality, but instead Yosemite, Sequoia, Kings Canyon, some beaches, Agua Caliente hot springs and park, Angeles Crest Highway, at least the open parts, Ortega Highway, Catalina island in the summer; only reason to visit now would be the marathon (running in it)
dc
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 12:16 AM
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12. See the La Brea Tar Pits
watch ice age fossils being dug up before your eyes. When wlkaing around, note the tar oozing up from cracks in the sidewalk.

LA was originally built on oil (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0469494/). Much of the oil is still right underground
http://www.tarpits.org/

Go on a tour of a real movie studio:
http://www.paramountstudios.com/special-events/tours.html

See a movie being shot
http://www.onlocationvacations.com/category/los-angeles/

Visit a tiki bar
http://www.tiki-ti.com/

Hike Griffith Park with the Sierra Club (LA has the largest Sierra Club chapter)
http://angeles.sierraclub.org/griffith/location.asp
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:55 AM
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21. Tar Pit are an interesting and unusual visit. Along with the museum
which is one one side, and the George Page on the other side.
And across the street is the Peterson automotive museum. At least one whole days worth of looking around there, maybe 2.
dc
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