well, my little doggie was just attacked by a pit-bull.

[KG]

pit bull apologists can just can it.

[auntAgonist]

1. I hope your dog is ok!!

I'm sorry your little doggie was attacked. :(

[ThomasQED]

2. I hope your dog is OK.

But just because a pit bull attacked him or her, that does not mean all pit bulls attack.

Over the years, my dogs have been attacked by shepherd mixes, Great Danes, a beagle mix, a boxer and a cat.

[femmocrat]

3. I'm so sorry about your doggie.

Please keep us updated on his/her condition, OK?

I certainly hope the irresponsible owners will do the right thing.

[LaurenG]

4. Is he OK?

please let us know.

[Roon]

5. My aunr's daschund was attacked by a pit bull a few months back

The owners made $300.00 payments every two weeks until the vet bills were paid.

[TK421]

8. I always thought Daschunds were pretty cool dogs..funny-looking, and personable

cute as hell....and just plain lovable, but I really love all dogs

[Roon]

12. Oh, they are cute..a little on the yappy side

but they make great mousers!

[Dappleganger]

13. We have two dapple doxies...

and I love them to death! They are so entertaining which is good for them, but they can also be so damn naughty!

[Roon]

18. Oh, I know!

They can be a lot of fun though, i agree.

[MajorChode]

9. At least they took responsibility

Seems to be a rare thing these days.

[Roon]

11. The owners live next door, have good jobs..

and their landlord is a denver police officer. Oh, and get this..they JUST moved in a couple of months before. I kind of feel bad for them.

[Inchworm]

6. Little dogs are freaking insane!

Before I be silly I should say I hope your pooch is ok.

I have a pack of Pomeranians next door (bout 1/2 a mile) that are so stupid they attack my Akita.

:scared:

[Shell Beau]

22. I agree that many little dogs have "big dog syndrome". My mini-pin

would go after anything if I let her. Big or small. She thinks she about 80 lbs. bigger than she is (or was).


Hope his dog is ok. It could've been any dog though. Don't hate pits bacause of this bad experience please. Get well little mini-pin.

[TorchTheWitch]

51. My first Akita used to get attacked by a pug doggie

almost every time we crossed paths with it. Damn little demon attacked every animal in the whole neighborhood. Stupid owners didn't give a shit.

Today the Akita I have now is having a really happy day... the people next door with the scary cat (who never did anything but just sit there ignoring him) just moved to the new house they bought. Silly dog wouldn't be afraid of a bear but scary cat next door terrified him.

[TK421]

7. Was your dog injured? I'm sorry this happened

[denbot]

10. I hope your pup's OK..

All the pit-bulls I've know were pretty sweet dogs. The meanest dog was my Dad's late Dachshund. It always seems that the little guys have something to prove.

[Dappleganger]

14. I am so sorry.

:hug:

[foxfeet]

15. I'm sorry for the little doggie. Hope he/she is OK.

:hug:

[Redstone]

16. They sure can. That's a breed that needs to go extinct. Naturally, of course.

Redstone

[baldguy]

17. Blame the owner, not the dog.

The breed doesn't matter. ANY dog can have aggression issues. The owner of such a dog should have control of it at all times, and have it muzzled when it's out in public.

[Roon]

20. My parents have a HUGE dog that attacks whenever

someone makes sudden movements around my step-father. After being reported twice, the judge ordered that whenever the dog is with other people than my step-father and my mom, he must be muzzled and leashed. They got lucky, they could have gotten in a lot of trouble.

[baldguy]

23. This one

<----

Doesn't have a aggressive bone in her body. Whose fault is it if (as happened recently) the mean old poodle down the street escapes & attacks her when we're out walking?

Well she is a Pit Bull, so I guess it's her fault. :sarcasm:

[Roon]

27. Aww

I am sure she is a sweetie! My ex grew up with a pitbull and his whole family claims she was the best dog they ever had.

[flvegan]

19. Sorry to hear about your dog.

Though you're incredibly wrong about the breed.

[Taitertots]

21. Gets out popcorn

:popcorn:
Don't try to get between pit-bull lovers and their genetically manipulated animal fighters.

[Shell Beau]

24. ?????

I don't consider myself a pitbull lover. I consider myself an animal lover. For every shitty animal that belongs to a breed, there are hundreds more that are wonderful. I care about those animals. I even care about the shitty ones.

And I say that as someone whose mini-pin has been attacked and not by a pittbull. But by a chow mix.I certainly don't hate all chows.

[Taitertots]

26. Were Chows bred for killing?

Why would you care for a breed that was created for no reason other than hurting other animals?

[baldguy]

28. You do know dogs are carnivores, right?

As in, they eat the flesh of other animals?

And FYI, the Chow was originally bred as a hunting dog.

[Chan790]

43. Most breeds were bred for death...

whether it was to hunt, for protection, for harrowing, for guard/sentry duty, for combat, etc.

To that line of thought, American Staffordshire Terriers and American Bull Terriers (the breeds most people think of when they say "pit bull") are significantly less dangerous, less deadly and not nearly as intentionally-bred to be killing machines as certain Eastern Molossers from the steppes of Eastern Russia, Turkey and Ukraine such as the Ovcharka or Gorban bred from antiquity explicitly as sentries, fighting dogs and war dogs. Ovcharkas kill bears for chrissakes. Nobody suggests banning them. :shrug: (Breed-specific bans are the domain of idiots generally anyways.)

It's amazing to me that people don't know this stuff...I reckon it's the same as the disconnect people have over where their meat comes from.


This dog: bred to kill.


So was this one.

[Shell Beau]

29. I care for all breeds. However, I adopt my animals, and they

usually have all kinds of breeds mixed in them.

[Shell Beau]

25. I'm sorry about your baby. I hope he/she gets better real soon.

I know this must be traumatizing.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

30. Yeah, it's a tough call,

I have known pit bulls that were more loving than my Shitzu. I have also had my Shitzu almost killed by a Rot. When I walk my dogs now, I carry a 9mm because the next time some asshole who has trained his dog to kill attacks one of my dogs, that dog is dead.

[applegrove]

31. I saw a woman walking a pitbull today on the side of the road. She could barely control the bugger.

I'm not a fan of the breed either.

[mzteris]

45. saw the cutest with pink toenails

and a faux-leopard skin coat yesterday. She was just adorable and the sweetest thing.

It's not the breed - it's the owners.

[elocs]

32. It's incredibly disingenuous to claim that the size & strength & biting ability of a breed

makes no difference when it attacks. Forget disingenuous, it's just simply stupid. Gee, would I rather be bitten or attacked by a poodle or a pit-bull? Tough choice there. No, a breed is not a breed is not a breed.

Yesterday here in La Crosse, WI we had our Oktoberfest parade which is a huge event attended by thousands of people. As usual there are some morons who decide this is a great opportunity to bring out their dog among all of these people that include little children and babies. Yes, put a dog any dog, among thousands of people who are strangers and you are setting yourself and the dog up for some nasty consequences.

The dog I saw yesterday morning at the parade was a pit-bull, a large puppy, but still capable of giving any baby in a stroller that passed it a nasty nip. Why on earth would the owner of a pit-bull put their dog into such a situation? Fair or not, the owners of pit-bulls have to go the extra mile to make sure that their breed gets no more bad PR than it already gets.

All dogs tend to be nice and friendly with their owners and family and animals it already knows, but strangers are different. No dog bites or attacks, until it does, and when it's a pit-bull the story usually does not have a happy ending.

[baldguy]

34. Then just ban all large dogs.

Great Danes, GSDs, Labs are all larger & more powerful than Pit Bulls. And they're some of the most popular dogs in the country.

No dog attacks without warning. But people do ignore or dismiss the warning signs. That's when we have problems.

Blame the people, not the dogs.

[sohndrsmith]

39. Sorry, but your own explanation provides a different opinion than the one you

provide.

Agreed: No dog, regardless of breed, large or small, is assumed to be.... anything (well trained, socialized, etc.).

Semi-agreed that a breed is not a breed is not a breed.

its a people problem, not a breed problem, and no breed should be accountable for the assholia of owners who are lunatic, abusive, negligent, stupid or careless.

True - many purebred dogs are 'hard wired' for certain traits, behaviours, reactions. Including the positive ones! : )

I was bitten (seriously) by an aggressive, dangerous, scary St. Bernard. Funny coincidence, I also had, grew up with and cherished... my own St. Bernard (both female - mine was long-coat, the mean one was short-coat) and my Saint was the epitome of the 'gentle giant' that one can only hope for in a large/giant breed. And it wasn't due to my parent's training - she was basically untrained. But her heart, her demeanor (well, unless you were a frog - or a hunter - she wanted you gone) was.... well, like Grandma. She was a valiant protector of our home (very rural) but non-threatening the moment she saw that her 'family' accepted any visitor.

The Saint that bit me - seriously - was protective but violently aggressive and that was something that she either had in her and was ignored or was fostered (since her owners were the parents of my best friend for years, I doubt that they fostered her agressiveness.

This dog was SCARY. I recall one evening leaving their home - I was the last one in line out the back kitchen door. The dog was just lying on the checkered floor, still as a mouse, until I was the only one left in the room. She LUNGED. At my neck. Without a sound.... She got the collar of my navy blue faux fur coat - but I remember her breath on my neck and most frighteningly... the silence when she dove for me - or leapt for me. This was not an appropriately trained or controlled dog. She bit my English teacher, and sadly, I think she was put down because of her history. I don't know if she could have been a different dog due to training.... but I DO know that such a dangerous dog is STILL the human/owners responsibility regardless of the ramifications.

My Saint seemed to want nothing more than to be my pillow on cold winter nights, laying in front of the fire while I read, and re-read every Pogo book in the house... or Gourmet magazines... or Julia Child cookbooks while the fire heated the rivets of my jeans until they were too hot to bear. So I'd hide in more St. Bernard fur and read more.... : )

[RandomThoughts]

33. Maybe it was a bunny!

:) Bunnies are cute :)

[Heidi]

38. I know of a kid getting the crap clawed out of her by a rabbit at a county fair

4-H rabbit show many years ago. Felt sorry for both the kid and the rabbit.

[cwydro]

35. Is he ok?

Or she?

[sohndrsmith]

36. I'm not an apologist for any breed (except mutt), but I'm a raging

lunatic when it comes to unsupervised/unleashed dogs - of any size. I don't know the circumstances of what happened (and I HOPE beyond hope that your dog is okay!!), but when any dog causes injury or destructiveness, etc., or IS injured... the only cause/reason/responsibility lies with the owner.

I have a large dog who is a buttercup with kids, and views other dogs (whether he recognizes them or not) as something not worth his time or energy - but when brought within close proximity due to friendly dog owners and reasonable socializing - he's a peach. Always. And he's **always** on his leash, even though I know he would likely be no trouble to anyone or anything (well - his prey drive is very strong when it comes to birds, crickets, grasshoppers and tarantulas), I can't read his mind. Period. There is nothing useful in taking my supremely well-behaved dog off-leash, for any reason, ever. If.... I care about his well-being and safety. As his mom, I consider it no more reasonable to let him off-leash than I would let my toddler out the front door by herself to "play".

Case in point - I was babysitting (okay, dog-sitting) for neighbors and I decided to walk their bigger dog (a skinny, smallish doberman sized mutt who is a cream-puff and to my dog's utter annoyance - in love with him). She's very old, and has serious arthritic/joint problems which she has rx medication for.

But this one night, I was walking her, and out of nowhere came this tiny, little, fluffy white dog (no leash, of course), something like a bishon/bischon (sp?), which made a beeline for my charge and seemed to want to do nothing else but.... kill her. Or vaporize her....

She drew blood on Sami's front paw. Had I not pulled Sami from the situation (via her leash), she could have - and might have - as she was obviously being threatened by this fuzzball - seriously injured this little dog in no time. Just because the fight was uneven from the get go.

Now WHY would any dog owner let that happen? Oh, maybe the dog got loose by accident. Sorry - not good enough. Unfortunately, in this case, the owner was standing there, calling his dog, which (surprise) was totally ignored by the dog.

Say the big dog (leashed or not) had injured this unleashed, unsupervised, uncontrolled small (likely purebred) dog. Does anyone think the expensive vet bills for the "little" dog would not be demanded of the "big, bad dog"s owner?

I'm sorry, but pit bulls, great danes, rotweilers, or mastiffs (want to have a creampuff in your family? Rescue a Saint... and raise him/her appropriately) are not the bad guys. The people who neglect, misunderstand, mis-train or don't train are your enemies - not the dogs.

If the pit that attacked your baby was off-leash or got out of a secure environment, then the owners owe you every penny in vet care (in my view). If your dog was off-leash in an area not designated as "off-leash" (most of which separate large and small dogs anyway), and the pit bull was also off leash or on leash and your dog was the aggressor - then you're responsible for putting your dog in a life threatening situation and owe pit bulls (and responsible dog owners in general) an apology.

I'm guessing the last hypothesis is the wrong one, but I'm grateful to have your post provide an opportunity to say what cannot be said enough, and that is: PEOPLE are responsible for their dog's health, safety, well being, training, and have full control/responsibility for their actions - at all times.

"Oh, he just got loose...." is not an excuse - any more than "Oh, my 3 month old just fell out onto the pavement because I thought her car seat would work even though I didn't buckle it.

I dare anyone who has an aversion to pit bulls - to adopt a pit puppy and raise it (appropriately for the breed, obv) and tell me they are not smitten beyond reason and are likely pit loyalists from then on.

Leash your dogs, people. Their "freedom" is not a benefit, its a risk and its wrong. Dogs are only as bad (or good) as those who are responsible for their training, care, and safety. People make bad dogs, Dogs don't make bad dogs.

[auntAgonist]

50. well said. n/t

[Heidi]

37. KG, please come back and let us know how little Jet is!

He's my favorite DU pup, ya know. Sending good vibes to you and the little guy. :hug:

:loveya:

[KG]

40. a couple nicks - no blood. i cleaned them thoroughly. held him till he stopped shaking.

seems ok this morning. and sore. he's favoring his left front leg.

[Heidi]

41. Thank you! I'm so glad to hear this!

Jet's a sweet, sweet boy, and I hope you two are together for many, many more years. :hug:

[KG]

42. ty.

[Monique1]

44. This is why I won't go to a dog park

I have heard that dogs run loose at the parks, I keep my dog on a leash whenever we are out of our apartment. My little dog (a pappipoo) is a very friendly dog, she wants to play but no way without a leash. There is no way she could defend herself. She also has no fears, everyone is a playmate to her. I know that some big dogs are afraid of her, not because she is mean - it is play time for her. She jumps and wants to warm up to dogs, but trust another dog I do not.

My dog will always be on a leash when out. One day I was out walking my dog and a larger dog appeared - I just stood there and screamed, finally the owner came out to get their dog. I do not care what breed - all dogs should be on a leash.

[marzipanni]

47. There should be a separate 'little dog' play area

the same way K-6 schools (in our town, anyway) have a kindergarten playground and a 1st - 6th grade playground. ;)

[Darth_Kitten]

46. Give him a little hug for me....

:D

[kimi]

49. Aww, this pic just breaks my heart

I really do hope your pup is okay, but I'm sure that animals experience the equivalent of PTSD, as we humans do.

I'm another one who doesn't believe that it's the breed that is at fault, it's the owner, or trainer. I've known Pitts who are the personification of "Gentle Giant", and I'd trust them to watch a baby, my own, actually. And I've known toy breeds who would kill a kid if they got the chance. It's not size, it's not breed, it's not reputation. It is ALL about the owner, and the socialization of the dog.

I cringe every time I hear about an attack on a child or adult by a dog, out of control. But a dog is only as personable as the human who takes the time to raise it properly. Which is one reason that I won't get a dog until my life is a bit more together. I wish that other people felt that way.

Best of luck to your pup. The look in those eyes says it all. Hugs to the little guy. :hug:

[Shell Beau]

52. Sweet little baby. You know I have a soft spot

for mini-pins. Lost my 11 year old mini-pin a couple of weeks ago. :( Feel better sweet little baby. Thanks for the update!!!


They are little pistols, aren't they? Can't keep them down. :)

[Lucian]

48. Yeah, it sucks that happened...

but just because one pit bull attacked your dog doesn't mean all pit bulls are bad. That's the same as saying all Mexican people are bad because one did wrong. Last I checked, liberals don't work that way...