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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 11:56 AM
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I don't identify with Democrats anymore
Adios. It's been fun.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 11:57 AM
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1. What the hell is that about?
Was it something someone said in the the Gibson movie thread?
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 11:58 AM
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2. You going left or right
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:01 PM
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8. he's going to join pie-face
.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 11:59 AM
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3. Well before you go.

Who do you identify with now?
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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 11:59 AM
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4. Who do you identify with?
I'm not sure what a Democrat is anymore. The best I can say is, I identify with the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party (we'll see how long it lasts).
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:00 PM
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5. See ya!
:hi:
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anti_shrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:00 PM
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6. Let me guess
Someone made a post that made sport of something important to you (religion, favorite Dem candidate, etc) and now you're going to make a "beg me to stay" goodbye post?

Reminds me of the pool scene from Not Another Teen Movie.

Stereotypical Cheerleader: You're not gonna CRY are you?

Stereotypical Female Lead in Teen Movies: *pause* .....yeah.....*runs off sobbing in a completely over the top and melodramatic manner*


Unless someone really went over the line I don't see the reason to disassociate yourself from the whole party.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:01 PM
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7. yes drama!!!!
lets have at it!
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:02 PM
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9. Strange
this member has donated to DU, has 4,495 posts, then all of a sudden "Adios" "I don't identify with democrats anymore"
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:05 PM
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10. I loathe
the bb swan song.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:10 PM
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11. Wow we are so unmonolithic I thought there was something for
everyone.
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bocadem Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:11 PM
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12. Bye.
.
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:11 PM
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13. Loonman
Edited on Thu Aug-14-03 12:12 PM by a_random_joel
I hope I didn't offend you in your other thread. I was just telling it how I see it.

I've pulled the "Adios, DU" myself, so I completely understand. But I am back, as I hope you will be.

Remember, Democrats and Progressives/Liberals, are the big tenters, so there is bound to be opposing viewpoints on many issues. That is the beauty of the whole thing. Tolerance and diversity strengthen us, narrowness and exclusion divide us. Take your pick.

Hope to see you back.
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catpower2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:12 PM
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14. May we have the link please?
I'd like to see what caused this poster to want to leave. Thank you.

Cat
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:14 PM
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16. I think it may have been a thread Loonman started recently
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catpower2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:21 PM
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19. If that's the thread, that's pretty bizarre...
There was difference of opinion, but hardly any flaming, and certainly no personal insults for Loonman.

Man, when I posted *MY* crybaby leaving thread, you could see the flames, smoke, and shrapnel from the thread in question in the next STATE!! :)

Cat

ps. Eh, you won't stay away, Loonman. There just isn't a better lefty site on the net. I've looked, believe me. There are assholes here like everywhere, but it's still better than the alternatives.

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:49 PM
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21. I am at the midpoint between atheism and agnosticism - Loonman
So the Dem party is closed to those whose faith is atheism, and those that have only a faith that maybe faith if possible - agnosticism.

Sure can't tell it from DU postings!

:-)
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:18 PM
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17. Your response was not offensive, in my opinion.
Edited on Thu Aug-14-03 12:28 PM by BurtWorm
It was very respectful. I doubt your post provoked the flight. One or two of mine may have have offended, but I doubt that too.

And by the way, Loonman, if they did offend, I apologize. It wasn't personal. As I say, I'm in a terrible mood.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:14 PM
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15. so uh...
As long as you're going....can I have your tv?

:evilgrin:
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:19 PM
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18. LOL!
*wipes coffee off monitor*
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:22 PM
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20. I hope you'll stick around...
Edited on Thu Aug-14-03 12:24 PM by gully
This would be a pretty boring place if everyone agreed. So, I for one hope you will stay...






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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:04 PM
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22. why Loonman?
do you believe shrub's version of the world is right ?
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:05 PM
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23. OK.
Bye.
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damnyankee2601 Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:08 PM
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24. Not to worry.
I never identified with Democrats until King Bush got selected. So I will step in to take your place.

On the other hand: Some of y'all could lighten up on the leftist dogma. It puts people off. and we need all the help we can get to purge our country of the GOP Mafia.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:10 PM
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26. oh please
Edited on Thu Aug-14-03 01:11 PM by Kamika
Im not at all a stereotypical leftist imean im christian, strongly for guns and death penalty, but i wont go crying if someguy goes quoting marx on me.

Everyone has their opinions.
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damnyankee2601 Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:19 PM
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27. Seems we agree, so chill out.
Looks more to me like you're just looking for someone to attack. I didn't say that _I_ was put off by leftist dogma. And who said anything about Marx? I was thinking more of the conspiracy theorist crowd that blames everything on some evil corporate cabal secretly controlling the world. And yes, that POV is irritating to a lot of people. (NOT ME... CHILL...)

But you illustrate exactly what I was talking about. I put up a post suggesting that some posters could stand to hone their social skills, and you attack me. WHat does that say about DNC inclusiveness?

As the the grand conspiracy theories: Never attribute to malice what is adequately explained by stupidity.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:20 PM
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29. geez chill
Edited on Thu Aug-14-03 01:24 PM by Kamika
Sorry i didnt mean to attack you. Sorry if it looked like that.

What i mean is that people shouldnt have to tone down their "leftist dogma" if thats their opinion then so be it. My mind is strong enough to know what i want.

Only time id tell people to tone down leftist dogma is when they do tshirts, commercials etc, because there are alot of conservatives right now that arent happy with bush and they just might swing over but not if ppl go to far left.

And no you didnt mention Marx i just took it as a example.


peace
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damnyankee2601 Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:40 PM
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33. Peace, out.
"conservatives right now that arent happy with bush and they just might swing over but not if ppl go to far left."

Hear, hear.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:09 PM
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25. don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out
x(
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damnyankee2601 Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:20 PM
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28. Very constructive.
Are you just trying out a new insult you just learned?
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catpower2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:25 PM
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31. Er, welcome to DU?
I'm a little scared by your presence, judging from the posts on this thread, but hopefully you will become a bit less abrasive once you get comfortable here.

Cat
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damnyankee2601 Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:53 PM
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34. Thanks for the welcome but...
Sorry, I'm just naturally abrasive. I spent about a decade trying to shed that, but it's just part of me. I've learned to embrace it. It's quite an asset when debating dittomonkeys, because like all schoolyard bullies, they only respect power.

I have made it my political mission to do all that I can to rid my country of Shrub, Inc. So I have a pretty short fuse for anybody I see impeding my goal.

Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:55 PM
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35. I can appreciate that
Got to have a short fuse with Bush Inc around.

:toast:
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carolinayellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:21 PM
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30. That's no reason to leave
Can't say I do either, really, but they're the only thing that can save us from Republicans! And if something doesn't save us from Republicans, the world is going straight to hell.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:29 PM
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32. Loonman seems pissed...
If he comes back, we'll welcome him... it's what we do. But this brings up a point. Our collective skin has to get a whole lot thicker. If the people handling the Prentender-in-chief even think there is a remote possibility they'll lose... folks, this fight is gonna get mean, nasty, and dangerous.

Our hearts need to vacate our sleeves, get back into our chests, and get covered with Kevlar. The waste is about to hit the Westinghouse, and we WILL spend Campaign 2004 coverd in blood and manure.

We will win, but it will be costly.

Toughen up and dig in.
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damnyankee2601 Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:56 PM
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36. Can I get an AMEN!?
I'm with you, bro. I brought my boots and shovel. Just give me a target to shovel at.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 02:00 PM
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37. Any thing with an elephant logo...
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damnyankee2601 Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 02:02 PM
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38. Roger that.
<EOM>
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 02:09 PM
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39. Damnyankee, welcome.
Abrasive swagger and all.
:)
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 02:45 PM
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40. Unfortunately, you won't get rid of ME that easily
Because I refuse to abandon my party to the several Johnny-come-latelies who piss me off regularly. Since it was apparently the Mel Gibson thread that prompted this, which rapidly devolved into some of our atheist friends bashing religion in general and Christianity in particular, I **will** say this: I am a Christian. I have never started an "Atheists Are Stupid" thread and I never will. I have never said on ANY thread that "atheists are stupid," and I never will. I have participated in threads like "Jesus was a Liberal." Otherwise, I have not forced my views on anybody here. I have, however, been regularly insulted, demeaned, abused, and harangued by those who love to spout their views of all things metaphysical. Christians are regularly put down here and stereotyped as stupid, primitive, superstitious, etc.

I'd love to see the uproar among the P.C. if people of the Jewish faith were subjected to similar abuse. The abusers would be run out of here so quickly it would make your head spin.

The Democratic Party is truly a big tent, unlike the Pukes. I don't have a problem with anyone disagreeing with my faith and/or worldview, as long as we share common political goals. But unless you want to see if you can get somebody in the White House on the Atheist Party ticket, you might want to stop insulting so many of your fellow Democrats. We do get tired of it. I, however, will not pack up and leave; I'll stay and fight. Some will not, and that's their right.

Lest anybody think I'm making broad generalizations, there are a number of atheists here on DU who are respectful of the views of their fellow Dems when it comes to religion, and we "agree to disagree agreeably." Unfortunately, there are a number of ASSHOLES too. I'll be glad to name names if you wish.

Last time I looked, this was the Democratic Party, and the Democratic Underground -- not the Atheist Underground or the Christian Underground or the Jewish Underground or anything else. Some people really need to improve their social skills.

Bake

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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:21 PM
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41. I have never started an "Atheists Are Stupid" thread and I never will
I wish some people could get that through their heads
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:39 PM
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42. Atheists are stupid!
naah just kiddin..

i lub you all
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:45 PM
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43. Right on, bro.
Well said, and eloquently explained.

Wish I could have put it in those words.
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damnyankee2601 Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:05 PM
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44. Somewhere in Texas...
Where can I buy that sticker?
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:07 PM
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45. If you right click on the image
it will give you the URL of the site where the bumper sticker image is from.

www.seeyageorge.com or something like that...
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