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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 11:28 AM
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Ford to revive Mustang Boss for 2012
Soon to be thundering down an open road near you, Ford has resurrected the Mustang Boss 302.

Based on the 5.0-liter Mustang GT, the 2012 version of the muscle-car classic was revealed Friday at Laguna Seca -- appropriately where Parnelli Jones won the 1970 Trans-Am season opener in a Boss 302.

The new Mustang builds on the iconic Bosses made famous for their looks and performance in the late ‘60s and early ‘70s. But Ford is quick to point out the new Boss 302 is more than a trip down memory lane. Most significantly, performance is boosted under the hood, and the V-8 engine is upgraded to 440 hp — an increase of 28 over the stock version thanks to a new intake with revised camshafts. It's paired with a close-ratio six-speed manual gearbox.

Because of the tuning to maximize rpms, torque actually drops to 380 lb-ft, down 10 lb-ft from the GT. Ford says the Boss has a broader torque range.

The Boss will have a top speed of 155 mph. and it's the first non-SVT model to get more than 1 g of lateral acceleration. On road courses, the Boss is said to top the GT's lap times by two seconds.

The Boss 302 is dressed with sinister looks to match its performance capabilities, and designers attempted to craft the spiritual successor to the 1969 car. There is a unique fascia and grille and a lower front splitter that's similar to what's used on the 302R racer. The splitter cuts down on underbody drag and front-end lift. There's also blocked-off fog lamp openings. The appearance is set off by a black or white roof panel to match the side stripe, and the body comes in striking shades of orange, blue, white, yellow and of course, racing red.


Read more: http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100813/OEM/100819935/1254#ixzz0wVJt24cB
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 11:44 AM
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1. Very cool
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 12:08 PM
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2. oNE OF MY FAVORITE CARS TO THIS DAY
And the modern 'Boss' will eat it for breakfast
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 02:21 PM
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8. if I can't get an original, get me one of these. eom
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 07:44 PM
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21. That is the Boss 429, the package that homologated the Boss 429 hemi engine for NASCAR.
Great car. Understated, undercammed and undercarbed. Kasse just released a retro-fit Boss 429 head kit.

This is the Boss 302, the car that was used to homologate the Boss 302 engine for Trans am. Also the first use of the famous Cleveland heads.
1969

1970


The Boss 302 engine replaced the 302 tunnelport, which had an unfortunate problem of pushing the crank out the bottom of the engine.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 12:22 PM
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3. Love it!
:)
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 01:28 PM
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4. Ford wants to send the current generation out with a bang
before the next ground-up redesign comes...
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 01:33 PM
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5. Perhaps this will convince GM to bring out their new Z28.
With some version of the LS9 found in the ZR1 Vette (6.2L Supercharged V8, 620+HP). A Camaro with that powerplant would be near untouchable. Hell, put the normally aspirated LS7 with its 500+ HP and it would still be untouchable (by any Mustang, that is).
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 02:01 PM
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6. GM will never again make a production car faster than its current top Vette.
The 500 hp one is probably what they'd do, and it would be great.

GM did it twice (1987, with the Grand National and in 1989 with the Turbo Trans Am) and pissed off the entire Corvette world. It's why the Cadillac CTS-V gets a "sort of" ZR1 engine today (550 hp v 640 hp give or take). Kind of sucks, too. The CTS-V makes the BMW M5 look like a child's toy and destroys the Jag XFR (supercharged). However it's only equal to the Mercedes E63 AMG. The extra 80 or so horsepower it would get from the full-tilt-boogie ZR1 engine...leave the Merc crying in the Cadillac's tire smoke.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 02:14 PM
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7. It wouldn't be faster than the ZR-1.
Mostly considering that the ZR1 is about 600 lbs lighter than the Camaro. But considering that the ZR1 does 60 in a touch more than 3 seconds, an LS9 powered Camaro could still be insanely fast while not taking top honors away from the Vette. And I don't believe for one second that the CTS-V has an 80+hp deficit to the ZR1. They are very close competitors in terms of quarter mile and 0-60 time. The CTS-V is slower because it's heavier. GM did the same thing with the LS1 powered Camaros and Vettes when they first came out. The Z28 was given an LS1 with a listed 305 horsepower, supposedly 40 less than the Vette's LS1 which was listed as 345. Those cars were in spitting distance of each other (5.2 vs. 4.9 seconds 0-60). The LS1 powered Camaros and Firebirds were pretty much the exact same as the Vette's, there certainly wasn't a 40 hp difference.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:49 PM
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9. 100 extra horsepower is only $1500 away
K&N air filter
Magnaflow Performance Cat-Back Exhaust System
Aftermarket mass airflow sensor
Lingenfelter supercharger pulley


Priceless

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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 04:04 PM
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12. Is that for the LSA or LS9? Or both?
If that applies for the LS9 as well, I don't think there's a production sports car in the world that could touch a 730hp ZR1.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 05:38 PM
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17. LS9
Edited on Fri Aug-13-10 05:38 PM by DainBramaged
AND, you can BUY one in the crate from Summit




http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-19201990
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CRF450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 11:27 PM
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23. GOOD GOD $23,000?!! BTW I havent been on here for a while...
I'll take an LS3 and stick a blower on that, it'll be quite a bit cheaper that way. I really do like the new Mustang's though. A couple weeks ago I test drove a 2011 v6 that had just about every option possible along with the navigation and *gasp* heated seats. I'm very VERY impressed with the car! And I've never liked Mustangs so that's saying something. The v6 is still nothing compared to my LS1 Trans Am though it's not too far behind, it's more than enough car for the everage joe to say the least while getting decent fuel milage. The build and drive quality compared to my T/A (though not suprisingly as it should be with such a new car) is far superior. Hell I'm almost tempted to buying that car, it was 32 grand which is about high as you can get with a new v6 Stang, would make a nice daily driver that's for sure!

Ford has a good thing going with the new DOHC 5.0, but I'm still a bigger fan of the GM LSx line of v8's. I see a lot of people dog on the 6.2 LS3 for being "bigger" while only half that claim is true. It's bigger in displacement, but it's actually physically smaller and lighter than the new 5.0 since the OHV pushrod design makes it very compact and lightweight.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 04:01 PM
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11. Hamster will buy one n/t
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 04:04 PM
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13. From what I understand, Hamster has like 3 cars too many as is.
And none of them fit in his old garage.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 04:05 PM
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14. True
But he cannot resist the lure of a muscle car!

Somebody tell me the troof--he really is a Keith Partridge 70s product, inside as well as out, isn't he?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:51 PM
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10. We used to laugh and call them asking for a Z28 V6
put a Vortech blower on it and you have 425HP and 450 Ft lbs. without the insurance premium.


We have an SS in the shop RIGHT NOW (I'll take a picture if I can remember) the Popular mechanics Camaro, it's OVER 600 HP with the Paxton /Vortech blower and a few other little mods.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 04:11 PM
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15. I'm all about forced induction, but superchargers seem to be on the way out.
Not only do they rob top end power, but they also suck gas like no one's business. Part of the appeal of that 3.6 IMO, is the fuel economy. I'd imagine that a supercharged version would get worse fuel economy than the LS2. Now, put twin turbos on that 3.6 or even a single variable geometry turbo on it, and I'm guessing you'd have a screamer. Ford is doing just that with their current SHO and I heard there will soon be a Mustang that splits the difference between the V6 and their new 5.0 cammer with a turbo V6. Another method of forced induction that seems uber-cool is VW's Twincharger system. Up to around 2000RPM (perhaps even less), the supercharger takes care of forced induction duties. As soon as it reaches that mark, the supercharger disengages and the turbo takes over. That way you get all the low end torque of a supercharged car, plus the awesome mid-range and top end that turbos provide. Also, the fuel economy hit is a lot less. I'm interested in seeing if more cars in the near future will be getting such powertrains.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 05:36 PM
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16. Lot of reasons to use blowers over turbos
One, heat

Two, easy to install

Three, cheaper

Four, they look SO MUCH COOLER

:evilgrin:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 06:02 PM
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18. But you know the disadvantage of a blower over a turbo...
It's kinda hard to bullshit someone into a stoplight drag race if there's a hole in your hood with a 6-71 blower sticking through it.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 06:07 PM
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19. Well, the new blowers for the new generation don't stick through the hood
and centrifugals are way more efficient than roots type overall, and generate WAY less heat.


I'll take a Vortech intercooled over a turbo any day (and since I helped build one in '06 and KNOW how powerful that baby turned out with ceramic bearings and 18 lbs of boost WITH alcohol injection for charge cooling) JUST for the "I'm coming for ya" sound.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 07:59 PM
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22. It's not as cut and dried as you make it
Turbos take power to turn too, it's just extracted more subtly. Roots blowers are notoriously inefficent, yet some street rodders seem to get very good fuel mileage from them. Screw blowers and centrifigals have the potential to be even better.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 06:14 PM
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20. I want one in a ragtop....dreaming again, sorry.....nt
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Bombero1956 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:08 AM
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24. I'm going to start saving up for one now




-440 horsepower

-380 feet-pounds of torque

-Special BOSS style intake system

-Short throw 6-speed manual transmission

-Race inspired clutch

-3.73 rear axle

-Quad-exiting BOSS exhaust system

-Upgraded BOSS suspension

-Upgraded Brembo brakes

-Special edition BOSS Mustang interior

-Optional Recaro front seats

-19" BOSS wheels 2012 BOSS 302
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