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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 09:47 PM
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Prednisone rage vs. Vicodin happy floating clouds
Which will win?

My money's on the RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE. I should be fun to be around tomorrow. Fortunately I should be off the V in a day or two and the prednisone is just a 6-day taper.

Damn you, weak L5-S1 disc!
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 09:50 PM
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1. Oooh, that's an awesome MedMix right there. Keep a diary of your thoughts!
Read it a few days from now, and then burn it.

Hope you feel better soon! :hug:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:10 PM
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2. Prednisone rage?
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 08:38 AM
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6. I got attacked by someone who was taking prednisone.
Edited on Thu Jun-03-10 08:41 AM by woo me with science
Verbally attacked, but it was vicious. Completely nice, reasonable women, but all of a sudden she went crazy and started sending me aggressive emails accusing me of being an animal killer.

Then she called me back a week later to apologize and explained that she had been on prednisone. Apparently she was aggressive toward other people during this time, too.

It can be scary stuff.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 12:21 PM
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9. Or not.
Lupus patients are routinely treated with Prednisone and I've never heard of them randomly attacking people........Including my sister who has been on and off it for 20+ years. Nasty stuff yes, causes "roid rage"? I'm very skeptical.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:17 PM
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14. Well, that was her story,
and she had/has never acted that way toward me before or since.
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LeftyFingerPop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 12:29 PM
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12. Following are related side effects...
Listed as "rare", but they do occur:

# mistaken feelings of self-importance or being mistreated
# mood swings (sudden and wide)
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:20 PM
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16. Thank you. nt
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 08:27 PM
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21. My son was on prednisone
Flew into a rage because, get this, my wife told him to put his socks away.

He slammed his fist into a wall, hit the door frame, and pulverized his fourth metacarpal bone.

He passed out from the pain.

Now he has a metal plate where the bone used to be.

prednisone rage is no joke.
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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:15 PM
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3. I have to take prednisone quite often and I am with you...
the RAGE will win. I always feel like a caged tiger... I hate that I have to take it but it always fixes what ails me.

Hope you feel better soon.
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LeftyFingerPop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:18 PM
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4. A lot of people get terrible mood swings with prednisone.
It is a sucky drug, but it works. I hope you feel better soon.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 08:33 PM
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22. I still have my colon, thanks to Prednisone, but it may also be thanks to Prednisone that
I am bipolar.
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 08:21 AM
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5. nice cocktail
Edited on Thu Jun-03-10 08:22 AM by Dogtown
sort of a prescription "speedball". enjoy the ride.

:smoke:
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 08:47 AM
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7. I gave myself bursitis playing guitar badly...
.
...still play badly, but had to give it up for about 5-6 months --
that shoulder HURT!!!!
.
Doctor gave me some pills without real explanation.
.
For the next week or so, I would have my (pot of) coffee in the
morning and strangely observe myself PACING around the room --
filled with BOUNDLESS energy, but unable to direct it in any sort
of functional way.
.
Annoying and concerning.
.
That Friday night, I'm talking to my bartender (a recent college
grad hardcore jock) and I mention the energy. He asks if I'd
started any new meds and when I mention the bursitis, he just
grinned and, without hearing the name of the drug, immediately
said, "'Roids!!!!".
.
I've always liked things that gave me boundless energy.
.
I HATED those things. Stopped them QUICK.
.
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Seneca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 12:13 PM
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8. The one time I was on prednisone
It didn't cause any rage, just profound disorientation and a vague blah feeling. I wouldn't say I was lethargic, but I couldn't work up the energy for rage.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 12:28 PM
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10. I have been on it twice. The first time I suffered from some rage (or maybe
it was because the in-laws were visiting us!!) and the second time I was given a very low dose, so it did not really affect me.
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Seneca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 12:29 PM
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11. It may have been the dosage
And I was also on heavy doses of Benadryl. This was all due to an allergic reaction to penicillin. Not fun!
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 02:57 PM
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13. Please read about safe uses of cortisone for adrenal fatigue.


www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/




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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:19 PM
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15. Take Kratom so you can acheive the happy floating clouds every time
Oh, I am evil
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Old Troop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:47 PM
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17. When I had cancer, the prednisone just made me sleepless and hungry.
Of course when I ate I puked which made me mad.
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mattvermont Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:56 PM
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18. I have had 2 l5-s1 surgeries
both times were preceded by cortizone epidural injections with a ramp pack of cortizone orally topped off with plenty of vicodin and morphine. Those months are mostly a blur, but the prednisone made me hugely manic...staying up most of the nights. All of this can be quickly bypassed by a 1 hour surgery and a night in the hospital.
I have permanent nerve damage because I was forced to become addicted to opiates for 6-8 weeks before they would do the surgery. In both cases, I was completely pain free the day after surgery.....morphine is cheap, surgery, not so much. Thank you Blue Cross.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:44 PM
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19. Ooh, prednisone will probably win.
I'm a pharmacy tech and have seen people have some pretty wild reactions to that stuff.

At this time of year it's commonly prescribed for severe cases of poison ivy. Those poor souls...the itching, burning, and swelling of the poison ivy is enough to drive them over the edge. Add the prednisone, and voila!---an "incident" waiting to happen. Just don't drink any coffee! :)

Sorry to hear about your back problems--hope you get some relief soon. That's the thing about prednisone, it really is effective.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 08:21 PM
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20. I once was a waitress. I had pneumonia. They gave me prednisone. I was such a much
faster waitress the next day that my boss asked what was up. LOL! Harness that energy and put it to good use.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:35 AM
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26. It turns me into a functioning human when my allergies are bad.
One minute I'm on the sofa, unable to get up and tired.

After an hour and ten milligrams of prednisone, I'm vertical, functioning and talking.

Amazing stuff.
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 10:03 PM
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23. and an update
This is my 3rd time on prednisone in 8 months - last fall for a severe allergic reaction, then early spring for asthma trouble from bronchitis followed by pneumonia, and now this. Sheesh. I was definitely feeling a little irritable today but it's a 6-day ramp (6/5/4/3/2/1 pills) whereas last fall I was on 6 pills for like 4 days before ramping down and was like a caged animal. I hid in my office and avoided everyone. Twin vicodin let me sit at the desk but I ended up needing a 45 minute nap during lunch, hiding in my car. The boss is not getting his money's worth out of me this week, but I don't have enough sick time to take it off so I'm doing my best to work extra at night.

Ice. Ice is doing good things to the old back, and it's cheap. This is by far the worst back slipped disc episode I've ever had. My poor wife is doing double duty around the house while I lay around and moan. Lots of ab exercises are in my future, I'd prefer to make sure this is as bad as it gets.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 10:19 PM
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24. Vicoden
does not provide happy floating clouds. It dosn't do much other than make me feel unable to concentrate well. Except if I am already physically thrashed. And then it makes me feel like I have no ability to control my body, so I lie there feeling what I imagine a quadriplegic feels. And when the body you cannot move is in great pain and discomfort to start with, that is not a nice feeling.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 11:31 PM
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25. I got the happy floating clouds from Percocet. (Think that's what it was, anyway.)
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 01:01 AM
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27. I hate prednisone.
In fact, I can't take it at all.

I'm still suffering from some allergy-related nasal issues because I'm scared to death to take the stuff.

I had to take it prior to some OTHER nasal issue and before sinus surgery. I didn't "rage," I gained 15 pounds in three days, had to have my wedding rings cut off and repaired and my heart thought it was competing in the Indy 500. My doctor took me off those so fast, my heart couldn't tell if my head was spinning.

Now, I still have allergies and can't take the shot of the shit to clear up a very sore throat caused by all the nasal drainage. Grr. Can't win for losing. The surgery allowed me to drain and took away the swollen eyes and brow-splitting headaches, but all the drainage makes my throat feel as though it's trapped in a well of snot.
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