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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:54 AM
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this may be a mind-numbingly stupid question, but what has the SIERRA CLUB done to piss off Repubs?
I was exchanging questions with this girl on Eharmony over the last week. For those not familiar with Eharmony, they have a guided communication process. First you send 5 multiple choice questions, then a list of "must-haves/can't stands", then 3 open ended questions. After all that, you can send emails, phone them, whatever. So one of the open ended questions she asks is what my political beliefs are. Fine, no big deal, I list Government as my occupation, so I get that question asked a lot. I answer honestly that I'm a Democrat and I work on democratic campaigns. In another question, I mention I did a 31 mile hike run by the Sierra Club.

A week goes by and I don't hear anything from her. I figure it was the political question that did me in, fine, no problem, it's pretty common, especially on generally conservative Eharmony.

On Sunday, I get an email from her, saying, perhaps predictably, that she's "as conservative as they come" and that it probably won't work out. Fine. But the part that has me scratching my head is that she said "you even mentioned the Sierra Club once or twice."

Ok, really? I never said I was a member, just that I did a hike of theirs.

So the question is, what EXACTLY did the Sierra Club do that suddenly made them a deal breaker when it comes to potentional dates? :wtf: :rofl:


For the record, I responded that yeah, it probably won't work out and I closed the communication.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:11 AM
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1. The Sierra Club fights the wreckless destruction of nature. Nature is in the way of big business.
Republicans don't like anything that gets in the way of making money without concern for the repercussions of their methods. Actually, wasn't it the Sierra Club that Rush said was responsible for the oil spill? He's said some REALLY stupid shit, but that ranks up there.

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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:16 AM
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2. ok, wow, Rush wins the award for dumbest thing ever said, lol
I understand the fatcat repubs not liking the sierra club, but shouldn't conservatives kinda like them? Hell, I think the club was founded by T. Roosevelt and was filled WITH conservatives for most of its history.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:27 AM
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3. "history"? Hmm. Interesting word. I'm not sure Republicans have heard of it.
Where needed, they simply substitute fiction that conforms to their warped view of things.

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Mendocino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:17 PM
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18. John Muir founded the Sierra Club,
And for all the good works TR did for conservation, he let Hetch Hetchy Valley be damned.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:31 AM
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4. Sierra Club likes to save the lives of animals and trees.
Republics hate that.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:32 AM
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5. So-called conservatives need to look up the definition of "conserve."
Being a member of the Sierra Club means wanting to conserve Nature. Teddy Roosevelt was only probably the
greatest Republican president of the 20th century (#2 only after Lincoln in my book). Today's so-called
"conservatives" are against conservation. Therefore, I'd say your potential date called herself "conservative"
like Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann might call themselves "enlightened."
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:36 AM
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6. simply put: because they've been told to hate them
This is one of those many things which make no sense, such as their dislike for the ACLU, and it probably only happens because The NRA or Rush Limbaugh or someone doesn't like them.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:46 AM
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7. I believe you hit the nail on the head there
Edited on Tue Jun-01-10 09:46 AM by charlie and algernon
I just asked a co-worker, who I talk with a lot and who also happens to be a conservative, about the email exchange. As soon as I mentioned the Sierra Club, her ears perked up and she blurted out, "aren't they a liberal group?" I explained what they do and she goes, oh, i didn't know that, I just thought they were liberal.

So yeah, I believe you have absolutely hit the nail on the head. The Co-worker even said that this girl probably listens to Fox or Rush and they told her to hate them.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 11:36 AM
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8. Half the people in the Sierra Club would be Republicans...
... if the Republicans weren't so STUPID!

Seriously, if you want to hang out with people who are conservatives in almost every way, go to Sierra Club meetings.
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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 01:25 PM
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9. I remember a "Wise Use" phrase from a long time ago....
"Preservationists (that what they called environmentalists) like the Sierra Club are the new Druids. They worship trees and sacrifice people."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wise_use
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 01:59 PM
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10. Spiking trees was on their list of tricks in the 80s.
I can respect a protest to fight logging, but spiking trees in order to cause grievous harm to the loggers themselves? That was all I needed to know about Sierra Club back then. They do some good work. But they also attempt to kill people. So whether or not they're the group for you is a personal choice.

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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 02:26 PM
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11. Proof?
Edited on Tue Jun-01-10 02:27 PM by TZ
I'm a long time member of the Sierra Club and I NEVER heard of them doing anything like that. In fact that sounds like a rumor spread by the right wing. SC is not an extremist group. :wtf:
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 03:01 PM
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12. This claim is BS. nt
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 06:06 PM
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16. complete BS (nt)
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Mendocino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:20 PM
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17. The Sierra Club never advocated spiking trees.
Edited on Tue Jun-01-10 08:20 PM by Mendocino
Could you provide proof?
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Mendocino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 12:19 AM
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19. "They also attempt to kill people"
still waiting on that "proof".
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 12:32 AM
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20. That was Earth First
It's like the difference between the local dog catcher and PETA.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 12:37 AM
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21. The Sierra Club? They don't spike trees, they organize hikes and raffle off hunting trips.
Hunting trips, ffs. Oh, that radical Sierra Club. :eyes:

You must be thinking of Earth First or the ELF or something like that, because the greenwashing posers at the Sierra Club wouldn't know a tree spike if it hit them upside their REI alpaca hat wearin' heads. Oh, and spiked trees are clearly marked, the whole point being to keep the trees up. The trouble is that LOGGING COMPANIES cover up/remove markers and pretend they don't know about the spikes, in order to make a buck.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 05:08 PM
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13. Consistently called for the regulation of industry.
And as the final insult, they did it using the manly Great Outdoors as a human shield, nicely undercutting the most coherent argument against them that a Republican could come up with.

Leaving Rush with only vague accusations of terrorism.
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Crystal Clarity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 05:51 PM
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14. It'd be like one of them saying to you
that they participated in an NRA sponsored Turkey Shoot or Heritage Foundation sponsored lecture or TeaBagger 'freedom fest' or, well... you know, anything that would make one of us reflexively want to gag. :puke:

I'd put that particular EHarmony candidate into the "Thank God, I didn't waste too much time on that one" category. Hopefully you won't run into many more of them. :yoiks:



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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 06:05 PM
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15. The Los Angeles Chapter is the biggest in the country
About 10 years ago, many of the hike leaders were aerospace engineers who took early retirement as part of the industry's downsizing.

Now I think a retired aerospace engineer who has spent their entire career on Department of Defense projects pretty much epitomizes "conservative"
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 12:59 AM
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22. they care about the environment
that's all it takes to piss off repuke whores. You're better off.
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