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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 01:57 PM
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In a work environment, how do you respond when someone tells a racist, sexist, or homophobic joke?
Especially when you don't know the attitudes of anyone else in the group?

For purposes of this question, I'm referring to people who are themselves racist, sexist, or homophobic telling such jokes.


If it were just me and the jokester, I'd be happy to get in his face and tell him what a bigoted asshole he is. But in mixed, uncertain company?


How to respond?
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 02:01 PM
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1. Turn them into HR immediately
As a manager, I'm required to do so or face disciple myself. It's a good policy, because that type of activity only leads to bigger problems in the workplace if they aren't quashed in the beginning. When they are away from the workplace, they can do what they want.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 02:04 PM
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3. A fine suggestion, but I have a follow-up question:
What do you do in the same situation but outside of the office, like at a "happy hour" after work? The same people are involved, with the same office politics, so...?
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 02:29 PM
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7. In general, no
What people do in their private time is generally their own business. If their behavior were so egregious that they were making the company look bad, or they were harassing another employee, then there would be exceptions. So the short answer is, if their behavior wasn't interfering with the business, they only have their own conscience to deal with.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 02:03 PM
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2. I'm never in a work environment.
:P

It has happened in the past. At a small employer with just three of us I made it quite clear where I stood with a racist employee, and told the boss it was him or me. When the boss balked I walked.

Not everyone has that freedom though. The only one to suffer from my choice was going to be me. I had no wife or kids to worry about, just my own self respect. Made it a lot easier to take a stand than it would be for others with bills up to their asses and kids to feed.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 02:07 PM
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4. I usually respond along these lines:
"Um, please don't assume that because I'm also white/male/straight that I think that's acceptable."

Usually followed by:

"Hey man, lighten up. It was just a joke."
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 02:21 PM
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5. Around here? I'd say "Nice to know you, asshole."
'Cause our director is a feminist and huge LGBT supporter who once lived on the South Side of Chicago. Anyone telling such a joke would be out of here so fast it would make clocks run backwards!
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 02:28 PM
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6. I would have an Officey response...
Something like: "Wow, that's inappropriate." In a Jim style voice.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 02:31 PM
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8. Icy stare, followed by "Why would you say something like that?"
I've only had to do this a couple of times, and they've always gotten the hint.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 02:33 PM
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9. I like that one the best so far.
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 02:37 PM
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10. I would ask my co-worker but they have been asleep for a hour
what we always wanted in a receptionist
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 02:39 PM
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11. I take out my phaser and start to fiddle with the power settings.
Do I set it to stun, kill, or full molecular dispersion? There's no mess to clean up if you simply vaporize 'em. 21st century forensic science can't even detect the residue.

"Nah, I dunno where he went, he was here a minute ago..."

But before I pull the trigger, I'll usually say something blunt like "That's not funny," or "Don't be an asshole."

It's astonishing how easy it is to deflate a racist, sexist, homophobe with a few simple words.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 02:43 PM
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12. It's a bit easier for me.
First, I work in a very diverse office, located in a part of town with large gay community. I don't think any of us in the office are in the majority, either by race, sexual preference, or gender (although we might have one or two more men than women at the moment). In this environment, the issue of people making bigoted jokes just doesn't arise. Secondly, I'm the boss and anyone who did would be looking for a new job instantly.

To answer your follow-up question, I don't associate with people who think such jokes are funny.
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 03:30 PM
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13. I've reacted inappropriately at work
Edited on Fri Apr-02-10 03:33 PM by tango-tee
by completely flying off the handle and telling that person off in no uncertain terms and at pretty high volume. Haven't had the chance to try a more measured and mature approach on the job - perhaps because word of that episode spread?

What I've found works quite well in my personal life is a long, icy stare. Raised eyebrows. Hold eye contact until that person looks away.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 03:35 PM
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14. LOL. one of the advantages of being an out gay women of color, is that people
tend to not tellyou these jokes. somehow they know you wont be amused.

but i would say roll your eyes and shake your head :)
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 04:24 PM
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15. All of you out gay women of color get all the breaks!
Mostly, I just nodded and said "Mm" with a sort of frown.

The same guy also sings the praises of the local Conservative Radio talker and--believe it or not--Glenn Beck!

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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 04:34 PM
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17. yes, we do get all the break
:P

:hi:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 04:24 PM
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16. Thanks for the responses/suggestions, everyone!
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 04:35 PM
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18. It's happened to me a couple of times, in the lunchroom
There's one table in our lunchroom, and I'm usually sitting there with three or four men. Once in a while, one of them will say something offensive. I usually read at lunch, so if hear it, I give the jokester a hard look and say, "That's not funny." And he'll apologize.
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 04:43 PM
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19. I prefer to let it slide if it is a public comment...
...and then discuss it with the individual privately. One on one, it's an argument I know I cannot lose, so I don't hesitate to engage in it. If it is a person who will not stop, or you know a private conversation is out of the question, a little public humiliation never hurts.

Let's suppose the individual in question is named Charlie.

Ask someone else, in a loud voice, if they heard about Charlie's visit to the doctor. When they reply that they had not, tell them about it: Charlie goes to the doctor and the doctor tells him, "You've got to stop masturbating." Charlie asked the doctor why, and the doctor replied, "Because I'm trying to examine you."

Do this sort of thing in the right tone of voice once or twice and Charlie learns not to open his yap inappropriately, you know?
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 06:44 PM
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20. I've never been in that situation, but...
I was in the teachers' lunch room once when someone started making nasty comments about Hillary Clinton. I gave him an icy "if looks could kill" stare, got up and walked out. Hopefully he got the message. I was a lowly substitute and he was a veteran teacher (and a big a-hole) so I bit my tongue and said nothing.

If I hear students telling blond jokes, fat jokes, name-calling, etc., I shut that down immediately.
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 06:45 PM
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21. HR
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 06:47 PM
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22. I like to remind that my wife is a foreign woman of color.
Doesn't help with the homophobic jokes, but it's good for the others.

Another option is the crushingly awful response of personal disappointment - "Really? Wow. I really thought you were better than that."

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 07:09 PM
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23. A cousin on mine just told an off colour joke about "small people". I was shocked and looked
Edited on Fri Apr-02-10 07:12 PM by applegrove
like it because he commented on my look. Thing is I don't know if he meant it as a shocking off color joke to make light of the offcoloredness. He does tend to joke like that. I'm left just wondering and he his left with my shocked expression (mouth hanging open). Best to ask at the time I guess. I'm terrible at that because I have conduction aphasia and cannot hear very well. I am too busy usually just listening to judge and think through stuff when someone says something to me. Then I go home and obsess about it.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 07:39 AM
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30. Look at all the people here who make jokes about Kucinich's height or that
Michelle Obama is as tall as George W. Bush. As if either chose their height or earned it in a competition.

The height=merit thing is very, very strange. That folks here buy into it so flagrantly is amazing.
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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 07:39 PM
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24. I had just such a situation happen
while I was in college and working at a "progressive, locally owned, organic specialty store." A bunch of us were outside on the loading dock having our lunch and breaks and this little pipsqueak of a guy started talking shit about women in the ugliest of terms. I told him to shut his fucking pie hole because his comments were sexist, ugly and rude. Went to the owners of the store right after that and filed a complaint. He was punished.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 07:40 PM
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25. I always confront this shit, and usually get into it. nt
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meeshrox Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 08:41 PM
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26. There are a couple good responses that can be expressed in smiley!
:eyes:
:wtf:

There should be no harm in doing the right thing and calling them out without looking like an ass yourself...subtlety is preferable.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 02:09 AM
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27. Which level of offendedness are we talking about?
Are we talking about DU offendedness or real world offendedness?

Also, is it that the person told the joke without knowing that it could be potentially offensive?

Finally, how funny is the joke? Is the joke intentionally twisted?

'Cause in the world I live in, I usually let it slide. :shrug:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 07:15 AM
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28. It was a septugenarian Rightwing asshole
He began by telling a joke about "Negroes" and followed up with one about Mexicans.

And I know that he's a RW asshole because he regales us with the wisdom of Glenn Beck peppered with the musings of a Conservative talker who's on a local radio station.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 07:31 AM
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29. I tell them it's inappropriate to tell it at work. The same way people here say things
in this public setting that is best left for your friends. People do not differentiate between appropriate and inappropriate settings for comments, language or choice of clothing any more.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 08:09 AM
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31. at this point, I realize that I have something to do that must be
attended to immediately. I walk away and make a mental note to no longer take "breaks" with said person. Is it ok if it is a gay person telling gay jokes or a person of color telling racist jokes? What about if it is the Boss's pet telling the jokes?
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