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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 04:55 PM
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Wasn't Alice supposed to be a little girl ?
Why is she played by a grown woman ....

This bugs me more than Paul being played by a grown man in the Dune movie.

What happened to being faithful to the original text.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 05:00 PM
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1. not in 'through the looking glass'...
despite the name of the movie- it isn't about her first visit to wonderland.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 05:03 PM
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2. Could have been worse.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 06:57 PM
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11. Yes...Emo Alice would have been disastrous
maybe not in some circles
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 07:00 PM
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14. Welcome to my nightmare.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 05:05 PM
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3. Alex in A Clockwork Orange book is something between 10 and 14 years old.
Malcolm McDowell just looks older than that due to the camera adding twenty years.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 06:19 PM
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6. Part I of 'A Clockwork Orange' ends with Alex declaring:
"I'd done the lot now. And me still only fifteen."

That's from memory. Incredible book...
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 05:16 PM
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4. I haven't seen it, but the review said she "returns" as an adult with no memory of her other visit.
Looks like a fun movie.

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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 05:58 PM
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5. The novelist eventually "responsible"...
.
... for one of the arguably "greatest movies ever" walked out on
the production... FURIOUS about how they were "ruining" his vision.
.
If you've ever READ "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", you would
perhaps not ask "What happened to being faithful to the original text".
.
INCREDIBLE book. FANTASTIC perspective so VASTLY different from the
movie. But that didn't really detract from the movie itself.
.
Granted... changing the original often (maybe usually) bombs (see some
of the Stephen King adaptations), but I don't know how long it's been
(if it ever really was) since directors were consistently "faithful"
to the original text.
.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 06:29 PM
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7. I agree. I can't think of a single film adaptation of a novel that was faithful to the novel
I must disclaim that I haven't read nor seen any of the Harry Potter books/films, so it's entirely possible that these are direct transfers from print to celluloid.

However, aside from (maybe) those books, every adaptation makes changes. Sin City certainly did, as did No Country for Old Men. The reason is simple: the book is not the movie nor vice versa, and what works in one medium may fail disastrously in the other.

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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 06:53 PM
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10. A lesson that Alan Moore has taken to heart.
He had his name removed from the credits for the Wachowski's "V for Vendetta", and it appears nowhere in "Watchmen" either.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 07:39 PM
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17. Yeah, but Alan Moore is the most congenitally bitter person in the comics industry
He would probably frown during an orgasm.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 06:45 PM
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9. Exactly. The Shining is another great example
King was apparently so insulted by Kubrick's version that he (King) had to eventually make his own (crappy) version.
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 06:57 PM
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12. Agreed.
.
Although I really LIKED "The Shining" in general, the ending REALLY sucked
compared to the book (Scatman Caruthers'(sp?) whole purpose in the ending is
simply to be a MOMENTARY DISTRACTION for Jack Nicholson!?!?!?!?!?)
.
And I've never actually seen the remake, although it seems to be universally
disliked.
.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 07:11 PM
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16. This is one of those rare films that really benefit from deep analysis
Kubrick was never simple nor straightforward about anything, especially the films he directed.

The murder of that character was anything but a momentary distraction.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 06:31 PM
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8. It's really an unwanted & unnecessary sequel to the original.
I guess Lewis Carol wasn't imaginative enough for Tim Burton.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 06:58 PM
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13. The version I saw required her to be at least 18
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 07:01 PM
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15. I seem to remember Alice saying she was ...
... "seven and a half exactly".

"You needn't say 'exactly'. I can believe it without that." responds some other character.
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