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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 04:55 PM
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Cocktail party sexism?
I dunno what you'd call it.

Last night I attended a local neighborhood get together.
As I walked into the host's self-service bar area there were four women standing there. The table was laid out with hard stuff, wine, beer, mixers, etc.

I said 'Hi' and proceeded to build myself a Scotch and water.
The ladies were empty handed but pretty obviously not happy about that.
"Can I fix you a drink?"
With seeming great relief they gushed "OH YES, PLEASE!"
(Our Savior)
:rofl:

I guess if I hadn't come in they'd still be standing there waiting for a MAN to fix them a drink.
;-)

We're all in our sixties (or past them) and I guess part of a 'certain age' where 'ladies' do not fix themselves drinks.

It was just funny to see them all standing there not wanting to belly up and have at it.

I will say that I usually bartend for myself and Miz t., but if I'm not available and she wants a drink she bygod just goes right in and makes herself one.
As she did last night.
:-)
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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 04:58 PM
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1. I'd call it women of a certain age
not comfortable stepping out of their "proper roles" and taking care of their own needs.

I bet they were glad to have you there to make them their drinks finally.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 05:01 PM
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2. Yeah, that's it alright.
I think it's kind of...quaint(?) now.
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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 05:08 PM
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3. Quaint, you think?
Nowadays, women are tattooed and pierced and they are drinking straight out of the bottle. Try to get between them and the bar and you're likely get your ass kicked. :rofl:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 05:12 PM
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4. True.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 05:33 PM
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5. Well, that would have been true of me, too,
Edited on Sun Oct-25-09 05:33 PM by hippywife
when I was in my twenties. These ladies are only about a decade older than me so I'm thinking it's age. Just not sure what it is. Upbringing and environment? :shrug:
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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 05:57 PM
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11. It's a new world baby
today's woman is running the bar, not sitting around waiting for a man to mix her a drink. I don't think they will mellow out with age. It's a different mentality.

:beer:
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 06:22 PM
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13. That's what I'm saying.
Maybe I wasn't clear but I'm 51 and never had a problem serving myself in that situation. :hi:
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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 06:31 PM
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15. Alles Klar
darling. You are part of the new generation of women who take care of their own stuff.

:toast:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 05:36 PM
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6. Learned helplessness is lame.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 05:39 PM
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7. Oh deah. Ah think ah may get thuh vaypahs.
Han' me mah smellin' salts, please?
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 05:40 PM
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8. Life gets stranger the longer we live it, yes?
Redstone
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 05:43 PM
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9. For me it gets funnier.
I notice things I didn't used to.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 06:57 PM
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16. Oh, funnier as well, indeed. As long as we let ourselves see the humor. Which we must,
if we are to remain sane, yes?

Redstone
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 05:45 PM
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10. Were they a part
Edited on Sun Oct-25-09 05:49 PM by hippywife
of the usual group that gathers or new(ish) to the crowd?
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 06:02 PM
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12. Some of both. But it's about universal here.
I and most all of my friends don't like to spend an evening bartending for guests.
So we just lay out the bar and 'help yourself'.

With only one exception, the guy makes the drink for his spouse.
The one exception is my redneck buddy.
Chuck is a great guy, but lacks a bit of...'social skills'?
"Hell, she's able bodied. She can make her own damn drinks."

So I do.
What the hell.
And the funny thing is, she ALWAYS says "You make the BEST gin and tonics. How do you do it?"
Boy, it's pretty hard.
You pour a jigger of gin into a glassful of ice and add tonic.
Squeeze in a slice of lime.
No 'secret' ingredients.
How else?
:shrug:
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 06:25 PM
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14. I could see someone
being new to the group and the environment being a little reticent to just help themselves in someone else's home but that would be about the only reason I can think of in that age group. Unless the men making the drinks is the norm for the group, as you say.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 07:00 PM
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17. Your "signature map" says you're roughly in Meridian. Is that the case?
Redstone
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 06:10 AM
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24. Uh...I'm one state to the right. WAY right.
Alabama
The dot is the capitol, Montgomery.
Or 'Mungumry' as it is said here.
I'm way down in the right hand 'fork'.
Baldwin County.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 07:03 PM
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18. There is something of a more elegant and genteel time about that.
I can appreciate a woman who expects a certain level of service from the men in their lives.

some might call it learned incompetence or what-have-you - and there certainly is some of that - but there is also something to be said about the gentlemanly act (or just plain hospitality) of making sure others are taken care of, instead of just shoving the bottles out on a table and telling to get their own goddamned drinks.
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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 07:12 PM
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19. I agree with you 100%
but you must know how old school your sentiments are. I'm guessing you are over 40, right?

Today's girl grabs herself a bottle and gets tanked and then takes pictures of herself in compromising positions and posts them on her facebook account.

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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 07:23 PM
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20. I think there are some older women who still
think the man is supposed to do certain things for women. I know a woman who is 67. If she is with a male, any male, and they come to a door, she will stand there and wait for the man to open the door. Funny you bring this up because my aunt and I were discussing this type of behavior the other day from some older women. I think they see it as chivalry maybe. :shrug: I am happy to do these things for myself, and I would never expect someone to do it for me. If a guy wants to open my door, etc., I have no problem with that, but I also open the door for guys and gals if I am in front. :shrug:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 07:24 PM
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21. those old tarts need their ass kicked
I mean, really
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 06:13 AM
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25. Kiss my grits. Seriesly.
:rofl:
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EndersDame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 07:31 PM
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22. What I hate is when people assume I want a fruity sugary mixed drink
I like nice good scotch (if some one else is paying) or decent whiskey that doesnt need a chaser straight up
Good Beer
I also prefers Mexican Martinis to Ritas (way tooo much sugar)
and a bloody mary once in a blue moon if the mix is home made from scratch and the Vodka has been infused with peppers
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 07:56 PM
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23. Funny story I heard about my grandmother & booze.

She was married to her second husband, living in a little town in East Texas.
This was about 1940 to 1950, I suppose.

The bridge club was meeting at her house. Her husband, Burt, noticed that the ladies were quite happy and giggling.

So he went in the kitchen and said, "Wilma, what are you using for a jigger?".

Wilma holds up a four ounce pimento glass.

Burt says, "My God, no wonder they're falling all over themselves!!".

Turns out that respectable women in my grandmother's day (she was born in 1898) did not go in bars and did not know what a jigger was.


:party: :toast: :beer:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 06:14 AM
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26. WOOHOO! I bid 18 no trump!
Pimento jar jigger.
:rofl:
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