What kind of a Star Wars fan am I?

[ZenLefty]

I still haven't seen Attack of the Clones. :eyes: I saw the first three plenty of times. I pre-ordered tickets for Return of the Jedi months before its release. But I still haven't seen the latest contraption devised by lucasfilm.

Every time I think about renting it, I get distracted by more important things in life. Like cleaning the cat litter box, or going through my old receipts, or locking threads in LBN or something. I just have too many things to do - I don't have time to watch 'Clones.

I figure the plot is something like: Anakin gets married and they have kids but he starts to go to the dark side and has to fight muppets and the empire becomes increasingly evil under the rule of a new emperor and Obi-wan ends up as a hermit somewhere. Oh, and there's plenty of CGI Action in it, but not a lot of live shots.

Is that the gist of it?

[RandomKoolzip]

1. Here's the plot: George Lucas officially sucks now.

I still havent seen "Clones" yet. Don't plan on it either. I loved the first 3 so much that I regard what Lucas did to fuck up "Phantom Man-ass" to be tantamount to treason.

[DCDemo]

2. Give it a chance

AOTC is better than Episode 1, and really parallels a lot of what is going on right now vis-a-vis Herr Bush.

You get to see the bad decisions and the manupulation of good people (you learn that Jar Jar is very important as he is the one who helps give the Chancellor increased powers, which of course leads to him being emperor).

You also get to see some kick ass special effects, multi-Jedi battle, Padme in all her flat-bellied glory looking a lot like her daughter to be (Lea)

You also get to see a Stormtrooper deployment/battle, and it rocks, and seeing Jango Fett (Boba's father) kick some booty is also quite kool.

If you have surround sound, turn it up during the star ship chase - the sonic charges sound AMAZING

[Kamika]

4. better but sucks

AOTC is like 100 times better then TPM and still AOTC sucks badly

[bspence]

5. That's EXACTLY what I thought

That AOTC parallels the current Bush administration and the way he's taken power. Very creepy, especially since Lucas had all this in mind a long time ago.

You have to keep in mind that the new SW films are more like historical pieces, and that the old ones were adventure films. Those of us geeks who know what's going to happen are enjoying it. You see all of the little pieces coming together. Many things tipped off in episode I won't be revealed until the third episode. It's not as good the original trilogy, but enjoyable nonetheless.

[VelmaD]

3. ok...

a I know a lot of fans and we're pretty divided on whether Ep 2 is better or worse than Ep 1. (I personally like Ep 1 better but that's because I love Liam Neeson and Qui-Gon has great hair.)

Here's my take on it. If you do rent it, skip all the scenes with Amidala and Anakin. The "love story" is just horrific. And this is a Geaorge Lucas script so the dialogue leaves a lot to be desired.

However, there are some cool bits. Yoda is a little tree-frog on crystal meth in his big fight scene. It's pretty neat. Jango Fett is ok. The Kaminoans are really cool from a design and special effects stand-point.

I just never seemed to be able to ge into the way I did ep 1 (and that wasn't nearly as much as I got into the original trilogy). I don't have high hopes for ep 3. I just think George is a hack writer and a lousy director. Don't get me wrong...I think his basic ideas are often pretty good, he just needs help translating them to the screen.

Darth Velma

[ZenLefty]

8. I remember how I felt watching the original Star Wars

Here was an unknown director plunging into Science Fiction, which was heretofore the realm of B-movies and never quite mainstream. He had a limited budget and two-bit actors. However, the special effects in the movie were, for the time, utterly phenomenal. No one had ever seen anything like that before. Looking back, it's hard to think that it was made in 1977.

My how times have changed for Star Wars. Not for the better, IMO.

[T Roosevelt]

14. My thoughts exactly!

"If you do rent it, skip all the scenes with Amidala and Anakin."

Right now it's showing on HBO, and like a bad car accident I keep flipping to it when it's on...but as soon as the scene shifts to the two of them, I'm gone...some of the worst scenes ever...

[DrGonzoLives]

6. The plot is

Some bad guy is building a coalition to break from the Empire, and the emperor is making a bunch of clones to stop him. And Anakin desperately wants to fuck Amidala. And there's a really, really, really, really, really, really stupid lightsabre fight involving Yoda.

[Augspies]

7. Some stuff is worth seeing but in general

EP1 and EP2 suck.

I want foam rubber monsters again. CG is great when used wisely. However, when you base an entire movie around CG it begins to look plastic, plus the actors have nothing to act to, and I don't care how good the actor is, trying to drum up a real emotional reaction to a blue screen with dots on it will always fail.

Jeremy

[thermodynamic]

17. Looks more like a computer game

Especially when the effects start to look dated. :scared:

The original trilogy will have some lasting value, even if it was 'remastered' in a sleazy attempt to make it look more like the new trilogy.

Dunno about the latter; Mark Hamil managed to keep a straight face and act reasonably well enough in the muppet Yoda scenes in Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, so it would be possible (though more difficult) to act good in front of where you think your CGI buddy is standing.

[catpower2000]

9. Actually, they don't get nearly that much done...

There's almost no plot at all, which had me wondering how the hell they're going to fit everything into the next movie. Anakin and Amidala have some extremely wooden, chemistry-free "love scenes" with each other, and that's about as far as the plot advances.

Also there are CGI muppets flying all over the screen.

Don't bother, your cats will be pleased with the clean litter. :)

Cat

[PDittie]

10. You're way too harsh

AOTC is decent. I don't have the same problem so many others seem to have with Hayden Christiansen's love scenes (hey; they're teenagers. Kind of responsible, geeky teenagers in their first and only relationship. In a different universe than this one. How cool exactly do they have to be for you?)

And I thought Christiansen was good in the role of Anakin. In particular, I thought he (his eyes) communicated his rage well. The battle scenes are well done. Jar Jar has a very limited role. It's a good flick. It IS much better than Phantom Menace.

As someone else already posted, FF through the love scenes and you won't miss a thing.

[FDRLincoln]

11. i liked it

I thought Ep 1 was awful. I thought Ep 2 was a considerable improvement. It is not as good as Star Wars or Empire Strikes Back, but is about as good as Return of the Jedi. At least I thought so.

I must be the only person who didn't hate the love story. I didn't LIKE it, but I didn't hate it.

I agree that the CGI effects were overdone.

I liked the political aspects of it, the manipulations of President Bush, er, Chancellor Palpatine, to seize full power are, I thought, well done.

Ep 2 is flawed, yes, but much better than Ep 1, which I find unwatchable.

[geniph]

12. I haven't been able to bring myself to watch it, either

Episode 1 was such an annoying piece of junk, and a total waste of some really fine actors - Neeson, McGregor, Jackson...and the kiddy-cartoon figures in it just set my teeth on edge. I have not been able to bring myself to watch the Clones at all. Besides, I never understood the weird Boba Fett fetish when it started to develop 20 years ago, so seeing a movie full of Boba's dad's clones doesn't really float my boat. If you're gonna clone something from Star Wars, why not clone the Carrie-Fisher-in-chains costume? or Ewan McGregor?

[ZenLefty]

15. "why not clone the Carrie-Fisher-in-chains costume?"

You make a damn good point there!

[BigMcLargehuge]

13. Spoiler in message

What really pissed me off in the film (aside from the sweeping problems like terrible script and horrific acting from Manequin and I'madolly) was the whole Manequin slaughers an entire village of sandpeople with his light saber (of screen mind you), then when feeling bad about the whole thing, reveals to I'madolly that "I killed them all, every last one of them..." This, of course, includes the non-combatants like little sandtoddlers and sandseniors...

I'madolly is unphased by this butchery and tells him IT'S OKAY!!!!!!!

Um hello! He's a mass murderer!

I suppose this explains why seemingly sane women want to marry incarcerated serial killers.

[ZenLefty]

16. You put the 'people' in Sand People.

They have rights, too. :grr: