Of the Beatles, which one of them was the biggest asshole?

[Archae]

I was talking to this guy I know who used to do roadie work for west coast rock groups and singers from the late 60's until the mid 70's.
(Don't mention Jim Morrison around him, or you'll hear some QUITE colorful language!

But Bill told me John Lennon couldn't hold his booze, and got drunk and snarly on many occasions.
While drunk, he was thrown out of a Smothers Brothers concert.

Bill said Ringo was the former Beatle he liked best, just an earthy type of guy, and everyday person.

Paul was a vegetarian militant, while George wouldn't shut up about mysticism.

[Skittles]

1. I liked them all

[rug]

2. Brian Epstein.

[Sebastian Doyle]

3. John was probably an asshole to his first wife Cynthia

and by extension to Julian. And if he were around today, he'd probably say so himself. Still my favorite Beatle though despite his faults. We're all human.

[Archae]

4. Oh I agree.

And each of the Beatles had their quirks, and faults, just like all of us do.
The Beatles were a lot more musically talented than us. :-)

[Deja Q]

8. "Probably"? Try "very much so" in place of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNs2VOwOquw
(part one of five. And a DAMN GOOD story, told by Cynthia herself.)

The good stuff you want to know about is in part three (or was it part four?)

[Condem]

15. Agree, Sebastion.

We were going to name our only child after him. Didn't work out.

[mitchum]

5. Unless George, Paul, and Ringo were involved in a baby raping ring...

it was obviously John Lennon.
Smug, self righteous smartass. For some reason, people are surprised that John is not my favorite Beatle.

[datasuspect]

6. john lennon needed his bitch ass slapped for a long time

[Deja Q]

7. Lennon. You NEVER hit a woman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNs2VOwOquw
(part one of five. GREAT story.)

Never cared for Paul once his wife pimped her name for some foodstuffs, never mind his later antics...

Ringo seems cool, through and through...

[Captain Hilts]

23. Paul hit Linda also. nt

[lunamagica]

25. There's no evidence to support your claim n/t

[begin_within]

9. Allan Klein

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1197709/Monster-rock-Allen-Klein-swindled-The-Stones-broke-The-Beatles-rock-n-rolls-ruthless-Svengali.html

[Sebastian Doyle]

18. I'd like to believe that when Allen Klein recently passed away....

John Lennon & Brian Jones were waiting on the other side, and kicked his ass.

[johnnie]

10. I don't/didn't know any of them

I reckon' John could be an ass, but I have heard stories about all of them at one time or another.

[UTUSN]

11. None of the above, but Yoko sucked more than anybody!1 n/t

[tigereye]

12. Yoko was an actual artist - and a performer ahead of her time

signed, Yoko Defense League. :)

[UTUSN]

13. Neh. I don't play pool anymore, but will always say, after a B.S. shot, "YOKO ONO!1"

She's a LEECH. A PARASITE. What (else) can I say. However, LENNON was a FOOL for her, so what ELSE can I say?!1

[tigereye]

40. she was apparently one of the few people who interested him at the time

they met, whatever her motivations may have been, I think he was intrigued by the avant garde, of which she was a part. I think she had a unique art perspective, and he admired it. I don't see her as a leech or a parasite, but a woman artist working in her own right, who happened to fall in love with a famous rock star.


:shrug:

[wickerwoman]

42. I think Yoko Ono gets a bad rap too.

She's actually a really talented performance artist (she did a show where she gave scissors to people in the audience and invited them to come up and cut off some of her clothing... really powerful stuff if you watch how the audience reacts to it).

If she hadn't been married to John, she'd be recognized as a very cutting edge artist.

[Book Lover]

43. Leech? Hardly - she did more

to move art forward than any of the boys did to move music forward. Yoko was and is still one of my artist heroes.

[JVS]

16. It's been 40 years and people still hate her stuff. Her time isn't coming.

[tigereye]

41. artists don't hate her installations or conceptual pieces

there was a brilliant one at the Warhol here about 2 years ago. I know a lot of folks disliked her singing, but some of us see her as a precursor to the punk movement, as well. Walking on Thin Ice is pretty well regarded in indie circles... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_on_Thin_Ice

:hi:

[cemaphonic]

27. eh, mediocre artist from what I've seen

But I think that just about all of the Fluxus artists were just Dadaist retreads (I do like La Monte Young though).

I don't think she deserves all the crap she got related to the Beatles though. She seems to have been a good match for Lennon, and the band was fraying before she came on the scene.

[tigereye]

39. I've seen some brilliant conceptual and atmospheric stuff from her

from the 70s - way ahead of many other artists. Well, but we all have our opinions.

[Drunken Irishman]

17. Sucked more than anybody - maybe that's why John loved her so much.

[JVS]

14. Oh, it had to have been John

[carlyhippy]

19. I love them all for different reason

John for his persistence. I finally forgave him for marrying Yoko instead of me, she seemed to make him happy.

George for his spirituality
Ringo for his sense of humor
Paul is probably the one that I don't resonate with very much. I do love his singing voice.

Together they were awesome, my favorite songs as a whole are from each of their solo careers. Talented guys are the fab 4.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

20. Kanye West

By far. Bigger asshole than all of them combined.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN, "HE'S NOT A BEATLE?"

:rofl:

[Dr. Strange]

36. Spot on.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :applause: :patriot:

[edbermac]

21. The Oasis Beatles are the biggest assholes of the bunch.

The Fab Four would eat those Beatle wannabees for breakfast.

[Captain Hilts]

22. John was the biggest asshole. Paul the biggest egotistical shit. Wouldn't have them any ohter way.

[kwassa]

24. I saw Ringo and his wife walking down the street one day.

Seemed like a nice guy, but what the hell do I know?

[Iggo]

26. Kanye West.

Nice try...lol.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

28. No, he's telling you stories -

I wouldn't really put a whole lot of stock into what he told you. The word about Lennon being a bad drunk was common knowledge, 'way back, and he got thrown out of a lot more than a Smothers Brothers concert.

Paul didn't become a vegetarian until quite a few years after his marriage to Linda, LONG after the Beatles had broken up.

He's blowing smoke.

A phony..............................

[suninvited]

29. The Beatles broke up in 1970

Paul didn't become a vegetarian until 1971. Although it is possible that he spoke of vegetarianism before he became a vegetarian, I think that it was something that came to him suddenly on a fishing trip.

[GCP]

30. I heard differently

In an interview he said that he, Linda and the family were sitting down to dinner in the farmhouse. Dinner was a leg of lamb. One of the kids looked outside and realized what they were eating, and that was that for the whole family. No more meat.

[suninvited]

31. Supposedly that is said in one of Linda's cookbooks.

I dont know, I dont have that cookbook and have never read Linda's account of becoming a vegetarian. This may have happened in her family before she met Paul. Was she already a vegetarian when they met?

The fishing story is supposedly Pauls account.

Linda and Paul may have become vegeratarians for different reasons at different times. But, their oldest child would have still been a baby when they became vegetarians (if it was indeed in 1971, which Paul states), so I dont know if a baby would have been eating lamb and comparing it to the animals outside.

[MorningGlow]

35. That would be Linda's daughter from her first marriage

Heather--she was 3 or something when Linda and Paul married.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

38. It was later than that -

he and his wife, Linda, discussed it.

They were living on their farm in Scotland, with their kids - before their son was born - and having dinner. A lamb dinner.

They happened to look outside, and saw their lambs playing, looked at their dinner, and realized what they were eating.

That was how it began.

The guy telling the stories is putting folks on, the kind of guy you always meet in bars, whose stories are gleaned from the literature and can never be tested. Those guys are a dime a dozen.................

[cherish44]

32. I've heard stories about Lennon being very nasty when he was drunk

But he definitely had an extrememly fucked up childhood. Paul just strikes me as having an ego the size of the Grand Canyon. George just seemed really moody and cynical but overall didn't like conflict. Ringo, yeah, he's always seems pretty cool.

[Deep13]

33. One of the four put himself in Hoover's crosshairs trying to end the Vietnam War.

I doubt any of these guys was a paragon of personal virtue, but as far as that goes, I'd have to say it's a toss-up between the two main song-writers.

[BeachBaby]

34. Most likely John - hit his first wife, bad temper, angry drinker.

[Ishoutandscream2]

37. Loved John, but he would have been the biggest asshole

The man had a lot of anger. A great psychological study. Just listen to his first album, Plastic Ono Band.

[BlueJazz]

44. Didn't care much for John Lennon. His musical tastes were adolescent.

[pink-o]

45. John was a reformed asshole

He started out sexist and angry, but Primal Screaming therapy actually helped him come to grips with his anger. Also, Yoko kicked him out in the early 70s cuz he was being such a jerk. He lived in LA with May Peng, made some good music (Walls and Bridges) then went back to Yoko and they had Sean.

Anyway, John totally refuted the song "Run for your Life" for its angry, sexist lyrics. So once an asshole, he became a compassionate, caring person and good father to Sean.

John was just settling into a happy middle-age when he was killed. That's the biggest tragedy of all.