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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 03:03 PM
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If you don't think the Beatles were important to Rock-n-Roll....
This is what was passing for Rock-n-Roll before the Beatles hit America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq2XC54n2Jk


remember, elvis was in the army...

Here's another example of what was passing for Rock-n-Roll back in the early 60's...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7n-INY0tyA
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 03:36 PM
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1. EXACTLY! It's what they saved us from as much as what they gave us. nt
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 03:58 PM
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5. Well, and succinctly stated. And, oh, so true. n/t
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 03:37 PM
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2. I'm unhappy with the seeming corporatization of everything Beatles.
Someone talk me down...
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 05:58 PM
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19. They missed out on a TON of money in the sixties. Lost their music to Michael Jackson, etc. nt
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:26 PM
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21. As long as it doesn't get overly corny.
If it's done more as an homage, then I'm cool with it.

I really like the Rock Band game. I've been obsessing over it for months.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 03:52 PM
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3. Much truth to that , but... a few artists had been keeping the real thing alive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Av0rDRLnw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiZ__BAWRk4

including Dion, and Del Shannon ( was gonna post some more but you tube is screwing up; hopefully these will play).
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:00 PM
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6. Oh yea, there was somje good stuff...
But Dion, as good as he was, was still stuck in the 50's...

This was always a favorite of mine...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7BRraVMZzc&feature=related
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:14 PM
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8. Was gonna post some Pitney, but you tube is still not working right all of a sudden
anyone else having a problem with it? Gary U.S. Bonds was another artist making rocknroll with a sense of urgency and excitement to it ... The Beachboys, Sam Cooke, The Crystals, The Ronettes, all too were making great music in the early 60's. We'll have to agree to disagree about Dion; I thought he and Del were crucial transition artists who had a touch of both 50's and 60's in em. But I'm a huge Beatle fan, and yes, there was an unacceptably high percentage of schlock on the charts besides the aforementioned artists and a few ( but too few) others, and without question, the entire British Invasion, obviously spearheaded by The Beatles, brought back a spark that had been mostly ( but not completely ) missing from rocknroll.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:16 PM
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9. Yup, Youtube isn't working right for me either...
Oh well...

:shrug:
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:19 PM
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10.  must be sabotage by marxist nazi liberal muslins
Edited on Thu Sep-10-09 04:20 PM by abq e streeter
and morans who want a pubic option
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:28 PM
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12. Must be, lol!
:rofl:
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:27 PM
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11. like Roy Orbison
Edited on Thu Sep-10-09 04:30 PM by Crabby Appleton
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 03:56 PM
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4. The Beatles were just a one century wonder
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:01 PM
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7. Good one...
It's coming up on 50 years when they hit the charts in England...
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Jetboy Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:31 PM
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13. Who knows what would have happened if not for that crash in
Clear Lake Iowa, Elvis going into the army, Little Richard devoting himself to the lord, Jerry Lee's scandal, Eddie Cochran's crash, Alan Freed and the payolla scandal? I'd take my chances with no Beatles if we could change all of those things.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:32 PM
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14. And just what is wrong with any of that?
You kids... I can't even understand the words to any of the music you listen to these days. I mean, what the hell do beetles have to do with some "hip" punk who claims to be a walrus? Let me give it to you straight you dope-smoking hippies: you wouldn't know good music if it hit you over the head with a Perry Como record.

Sincerely,
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:50 PM
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15. some things just aren't done
"My dear girl there are some things that just aren't done, such as drinking Dom Pérignon '53 above a temperature of 38 degrees Fahrenheit. That's as bad as listening to the Beatles without earmuffs! ~James Bond (1964)
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:54 PM
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16. Man, I thought 007 was supposed to be cool
Who knew he was so hopelessly behind the times?
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 05:07 PM
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18. Probably because James Bond wasn't a teen-aged girl in 1964
The Beatles were a boy band. The sixties version of the Backstreet Boys. Did you listen to the Beatles in 1964? I did. Or rather I should say my sister did. Over and over and over ad nauseum. They were the epitome of bubblegum pop.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 06:06 PM
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20. My father-in-law spent 30 minutes alone with the Beatles in 64
When people are surprised that he wasn't excited, I always reply,"He was a 19 year old college student. Why in the hell would he have been crazy about the Beatles?"
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:31 PM
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26. Friend of mine interviewed them for the Toronto Star and played cards with them.
He later ran into them on holiday in the Bahamas and he and his wife hung with them a bit. He was an older guy, too.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 05:06 PM
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17. delete wrong place
Edited on Thu Sep-10-09 05:07 PM by pokerfan
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:31 PM
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22. Or this
Pat Boone 'covers' Little Richard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvieb2OedWE
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:57 PM
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25. .
:scared:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:36 PM
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23. Not liking the Beatles is one thing. It is an opinion. It is personal taste.
But saying the Beatles weren't one of the most important and influential rock bands, PERIOD, is denying a basic FACT.
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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:53 PM
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24. the Beatles ARE rock n roll
As much as I love the Beatles, I really seemed to love their solo careers even more.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:41 PM
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27. In hindsight the Beatles seem pretty tame
But OMG what an incredible change they launched in a time when the world seemed gray.
There was a huge cauldron of change waiting to burst to the surface. The Beatles were the first wave of change.
And they stayed on top of the changing times for years, usually well ahead of their times.
It is hard to understand from today's vantage point what the Beatles meant.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:55 PM
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28. Do you remember that Radio Free Europe black and white
commercial set somewhere behind the Iron Curtain?

It was a "mod" listening to Radio Free Europe.

You watch him walking around his room, the broadcast overlaying every movement.

Everything is in Black and White.

You hear the announcer get ready for a song, you hear him saying Un Broadvay and out come The Drifters...

That's how I viewed the whole world until the Beatles came along.

They were great musicians, wrote marvelous and melodic songs and witty lyrics that you could easily remember.

And they took the Do Wop harmonies and gave them balls.

And they also treated the Album as a way to get a lot of good music from touch down on side one till hitting the inside grove on side 2.

There were never any throw away songs.

And they were a group. No lead singers, they all sang all the time. they wrote 99% of their music, unheard of before they came on the scene.
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 01:59 AM
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30. Even Vladimir Putin has admitted to having secret Beatles records
way back when. And he was KGB!
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Lethe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 12:04 AM
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29. Timothy Leary on the Beatles:
"I declare that The Beatles are mutants. Prototypes of evolutionary agents sent by God, endowed with a mysterious power to create a new human species, a young race of laughing freemen."

if i may split hairs here....the beatles where not rock n roll, they were pop rock or pure pop.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 02:58 AM
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31. Have you listened to "Helter Skelter" through headphones turned up LOUD?
Or "Revolution", or "I Want You (She's So Heavy), or "Dizzy Miss Lizzie", or...

You can't say the Beatles didn't rock.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 03:09 PM
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32. I'm Down, Back in the USSR, Roll over Beethoven, A Hard Days Night...
Birthday, Come Together, Hey Bulldog, I want to Hold You r Hand, I wanna be your Man, I saw her Standing There, Im Down,
Lady Madonna....

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 06:00 PM
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35. Yes It Is, I Saw Her Standing There, I'm Only Sleeping, Two of Us, The Ballad of John and Yoko....
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 04:27 PM
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33. Their stuff before they got famous was very much Rock and Roll, the covers........
But once they hit it big.....that was mostly, well, Beatles Music.......

I think "I Saw Her Standing There" is pretty basic Rock and Roll.......
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:00 PM
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34. Listening to music of the era, it's clear they revolutionized it.
Doesn't mean there aren't aspects to their music nobody's allowed to criticize, however. :D
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Jetboy Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 06:44 PM
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36. Have you ever heard the recordings of the Beatles backing
Gene Vincent? I love the movie Backbeat and find that most of my favorite Beatles songs are their early rock-n-roll covers. A clip of the Beatles backing Gene instead of the guys in this clip would be priceless:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NCrI7YQ158
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:13 PM
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37. mkay
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 05:17 AM
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38. But Buddy was dead before the Beatles hit the shore....
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:33 AM
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39. but, HE influenced the Beatles .
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