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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:47 PM
Original message
Poll question: hockey
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 07:47 PM by JohnKleeb
:shrug:
Hockey is blah!
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Mass_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:48 PM
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1. NHL sucks
But I love olympic hockey. GO CZECH REPUBLIC!!!!!!
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:49 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Czech Republic rocks because of guys like Jaromir Jagr
who play in the NHL. But they are a damn good team aren't they?
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Mass_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. they are the best
ever. Too cool.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:53 PM
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11. Ya, but you also have morons Like Hasek
and Jagr has proved he is nothing without Lemiuex's help
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #1
12. Olympic Hockey is indeed the best
wish the NHL would open up its game more
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ProudGerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:49 PM
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2. had to vote other
I like playing it, even though I know almost none of the rules, wtf is icing????

But following it? snooze fest.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:51 PM
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8. Icing is a long pass which no one can get
that crosses two lines, goes behind the endline with no one touching it. causes a stoppage of play and face-off in the other zone. There is no icing for the shorthanded team on a power play.
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Lizz612 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:00 PM
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20. Wow
Thats not at all confussing.... :eyes:
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #20
24. heh, most people don't understand icing
even people who've been watching the game for decades.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 09:54 PM
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48. Really? What's not to understand?
:shrug:
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 10:11 PM
Response to Reply #48
49. I dunno
I get it, some others just can't seem to grasp it
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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 09:15 PM
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46. icing is really a simple concept..
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 09:18 PM by opiate69
The hockey rink has 3 red lines. One at either end, and one in the center. If the offensive team passes/shoots the puck, and it crosses 2 red lines, icing will be called if the defending team touches the puck before the offending team.

On edit: HEre's the actual rulebook explanation.

Rule 61. Icing the Puck
(a) For the purpose of this rule, the center red line will divide the ice into halves. Should any player of a team, equal or superior in numerical strength to the opposing team, shoot, bat or deflect the puck from his own half of the ice beyond the goal line of the opposing team, play shall be stopped and the puck faced-off at the end face-off spot of the offending team, unless on the play, the puck shall have entered the net of the opposing team, in which case the goal shall be allowed.
For the purpose of this rule, the point of last contact with the puck by the team in possession shall be used to determine whether icing has occurred or not.
(NOTE 1) If during the period of a delayed whistle due to a foul by a player of the side NOT in possession, the side inpossession "ices" the puck, then the face-off following the stoppage of play shall take place in the neutral zone near the defending blue line of the team icing the puck.
(NOTE 2) When a team is "short-handed" as the result of a penalty and the penalty is about to expire, the decision as to whether there has been an "icing" shall be determined at the instant the penalty expires. The action of the penalized player remaining in the penalty box will not alter the ruling.
(NOTE 3) For the purpose of interpretation of the rule, "icing the puck" is completed the instant the puck is touched first by a defending player (other than the goalkeeper) after it has crossed the goal line and if in the action of so touching the puck, it is knocked or deflected into the net, it is NO goal.
(NOTE 4) When the puck is shot and rebounds from the body or stick of an opponent in his own half of the ice so as to cross the goal line of the player shooting, it shall not be considered as "icing".
(NOTE 5) Notwithstanding the provisions of the section concerning "batting" the puck in respect to the "icing the puck" rule, the provisions of the final paragraph of Rule 57(e) apply and NO goal can be scored by batting the puck with the hand into the opponent's goal whether intended or not.
(NOTE 6) If while the Linesman has signalled a slow whistle for a clean interception under Rule 71(c), the player intercepting shoots or bats the puck beyond the opponent's goal line in such a manner as to constitute "icing the puck", the Linesman "slow whistle" shall be considered exhausted the instant the puck crosses the blue line and "icing" shall be called in the usual manner.
(b) If a player of the side shooting the puck down the ice who is on-side and eligible to play the puck does so before it is touched by an opposing player, the play shall continue and it shall not be considered a violation of this rule.
(c) If the puck was so shot by a player of a side below the numerical strength of the opposing team, play shall continue and the face-off shall not take place.
(NOTE) If the team returns to full strength following a shot by one of its players, play shall continue and the face-off shall not take place.
(d) If, however, the puck shall go beyond the goal line in the opposite half of the ice directly from either of the players while facing-off, it shall not be considered a violation of this rule.
(e) If, in the opinion of the Linesman, a player of the opposing team except the goalkeeper is able to play the puck before it passes his goal line, but has not done so, the face-off shall not be allowed and play shall continue. If, in the opinion of the Referee, the defending side intentionally abstains from playing the puck promptly when they are in a position to do so, he shall stop the play and order the resulting face-off on the adjacent corner face-off spot nearest the goal of the team at fault.
(NOTE) The purpose of this section is to enforce continuous action and both Referee and Linesmen should interpret and apply the rule to produce this result.
(f) If the puck touches any part of a player of the opposing side, including his skates or his stick, or if it passes through any part of the goal crease before it reaches the opposing team's goal line, or if it touches any part of the opposing team's goalkeeper, including his skates or his stick, at any time before or after crossing the goal line, it shall not be considered.
(NOTE) If a goalkeeper takes any action to dislodge the puck from the back of the net, icing shall be washed out.
(g) If a goalkeeper has been removed from the playing surface for an extra player (teams at equal or superior in numerical strength), the icing rule shall be in effect if the puck passes through or touches any part of the goal crease before it crosses the goal line.
(h) If the Linesman shall have erred in calling an "icing the puck" infraction (regardless of whether either team is short-handed), the puck shall be faced-off on the center ice face-off spot.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:50 PM
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5. BEST SPORT EVER
to watch and Play

:-)

Anyone who disagrees is gonna get cross-checked
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:52 PM
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9. I take that as a threat
go on :).
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:51 PM
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6. Hockey is B-O-R-I-N-G
The trap has ruined the sport. I'd rather watch soccer.

JD
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #6
13. not many use the trap anymore
and offenses have figured out how to beat it
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:51 PM
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7. Watching a live game is just awesome
especially the ones here at RIT. The hockey fans around here are psychotic in a good way. Michigan games are good too but RIT games are the most fun. I've never seen an NHL game though.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:55 PM
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14. Rochester Institute of Technology?
?
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. South Henrietta Institute of Technology
yeah youngred, I'm at RIT.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:59 PM
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19. LOL
yeah that.

I'm from Brockport. there's a bunch of DUers in Rochester, we should have a get together once the weather thaws a little
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U of M Dem 07 Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #7
40. Yeah!
Michigan games are awesome... the energy of the crowd is intense! :)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:52 PM
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10. vote blah!
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. Vote Kleeb is a Dingbat
HOCKEY ROCKS
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:57 PM
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16. Hockey sucks!
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:59 PM
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18. Only if by sucking
you mean the best sport ever created
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:00 PM
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21. best sport ever eh
Yes thats why it SUCKS.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. bah
Southern Molasses Mouth Fool don't no crap about the fine Northern Sport
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:03 PM
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23. Why dont you go use immigrant soldiers
:eyes:
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:03 PM
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25. to crush your southern heritage
Virginny boy :P
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:06 PM
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27. yeah but you guys are so lazy you cant do it yourself
:eyes:
why dont you go outnumber the south in all important catogeries then have a hard time beating us. :shrug: Yankees.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. because we had idiots running things and you had the best gen of gens ever
for a long time....we still won
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #28
29. and thats my fault
:shrug:
yeah took you 4 years to beat us, and we're supposed to be easy to beat, after all we were just fa'rmers :eyes:.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. never said that
just said you had a molasses mouth
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:17 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. I'll show you molasses

you got molasses.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #31
33. ya, well who's winning your poll
EH?????
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:06 PM
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26. Hockey Rules.
Fastest, toughest sport in the world.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:18 PM
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32. Hockey rules
Not the best sport ever, but if you diss hockey I'm giving you a Bertuzzi style knock out, Kleeb!
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ProudGerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:33 PM
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43. A Maggie delivered Bertuzzi styly knockout
And how are we to know when this 'knockout' is applied? Kleeb might need advance warning, as smurfs just don't pack a wallop, so to speak.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:23 PM
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34. blah blah blah blah!
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #34
38. keep trying
you're still losing :P
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #38
39. one does not have to win a poll to prove his point
bastard :P
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:30 PM
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41. and yet you haven't
:P
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:33 PM
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42. prove your point ya bastard
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. there is no sport
which requires more skill, is played faster, has more intensity, is played with such passion, has the world's most coveted trophy and is just all around better
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Mr. Socko Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:23 PM
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35. Hockey Owns!
Except players like Todd Bertuzzi (and what he did). I hate players like him.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:24 PM
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36. My best buddy just loves hockey.
But I can't make myself care which team wins.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:25 PM
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37. It's not just a sport, it's an art
If you don't believe me, just watch a single good player for a few minutes. Pay close attention to how he controls the puck and how he moves his feet. There are so many fine details in the game, it constantly amazes me.

Football and Baseball are too slow for me. College basketball is okay.
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neoteric lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:36 PM
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44. Hockey is a great sport
but those running it do not know how to present it or market it. It is an exciting, fast, physical sport that is great to play. Football may be better but hockey is up there. Now soccer is a sport that is a snoozer.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 09:52 PM
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47. Hockey is the best; the only sport I'll watch.
Once I got turned on to hockey, baseball became a total bore.
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