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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:41 AM
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Is rock and roll dead?
Edited on Tue Jul-14-09 08:02 AM by NJmaverick
or long live rock?

I personally think that we may be seeing it in its death throes
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:01 AM
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1. Recommended,
dammit! x(
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:02 AM
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2. It was coughing up blood last night.
Edited on Tue Jul-14-09 08:02 AM by peekaloo
or was it merely resting?
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:04 AM
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3. It's in its final illness. nt
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:06 AM
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4. No way.
It's simply been hijacked by corporate America. The artists still exist and still write and perform great rock and roll. It just doesn't reach the mainstream.

I am right about this. Aren't I?
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:15 AM
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5. It should be, but it isn't.






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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:22 AM
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6. One of the ORIGINAL rock and roll stars still plays several hundred
Edited on Tue Jul-14-09 08:26 AM by old mark
gigs every year since the mid '50's, and still is kicking ass for a living with ZERO media support.

Mr. Jerry Lee Lewis. He is certainly in the minority, but then he always was.
He will be 74 this September.


See; www.jerryleelewis.com/


markO8)
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:24 AM
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7. Never fear. Creed is reuniting.


Rock n' Roll, thy savior is Scott Stapp.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 05:53 PM
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32. Even JESUS hates Creed!
Seriously, He told me He thinks Stapp is a douchebag.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 09:44 AM
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8. Does anyone even make rock music today?
I'm not sure we ever hear 'new' rock and roll nowadays, do we?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 09:51 AM
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9. That's why I think it could be considered dead or dying
they are living on past work
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:20 AM
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13. Hey, keep it down! What if the mythologists hear you say that?
You'll break their hearts. And wallets.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:21 AM
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15. Who? Who's living on past work?
I mean, granted, Bruce Springsteen doesn't get his new stuff played on the radio, but as I said in my post below, there's tons of contemporary rock bands putting out great music.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 09:54 AM
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10. Surely you know some young dudes in rock bands.
I know plenty,so no,it is not dying.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:17 AM
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11. Of course, it's alive; it's the eternal soundtrack of youth...
wait a minute...no...it's not
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:20 AM
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12. Course not.
There's tons of great contemporary rock bands (see The Hold Steady)
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:21 AM
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14. Music is always evolving and morphing into something. It builds
Edited on Tue Jul-14-09 11:21 AM by Tuesday Afternoon
onto what it has learned and as technology allows for new and different ways to conduct sound. Music is an experiment of the soul longing to be heard.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:25 AM
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16. rock and roll is always changing.... now it's punk-pop like Green Day and Fall Out Boy
that is popular...
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 03:26 PM
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29. Or modern rock like Linkin Park, Kings of Leon, or Franz Ferdinand.
The rock of today may not sound like the rock of Zappa, Elvis, or the Beatles, but you can draw a direct evolutionary line between the alternative rock/modern rock/punk-pop bands of today and the rock and rollers of decades past.

Just because the old farts don't like the sound of the youthful rock of today, doesn't mean it's not rock.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:28 AM
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17. probably, i've moved on and on and on
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:32 AM
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18. There are two teen bands in my neighborhood and on my...
daily walks across town I've heard a few more. They all play
what they consider Rock & Roll. Who knows they may be right.

Tikki


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Jetboy Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:37 AM
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19. Yes.
But emo-grind-core-thrash lives on.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:59 AM
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20. It's been dead for a while.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 12:00 PM
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21. I had too much to dream last night.... eom
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 12:04 PM
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22. R & R will live so long as there are old timers like me who
remember the great ones.

After we're gone, it will be heralded as the golden age off music. Songs were songs, with beat, rhythm, coherent lyrics and the ability to inspire all of us.

What passes today for music leaves me(an old timer) flat and it does to my children who are in their 40's.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 12:07 PM
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23. Yep.
The last chance it had was with Seattle grunge...

-P
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 02:40 PM
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26. I'm thinking that pretty much was its last chance
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 02:27 PM
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24. it's not dead
It's just pining for the fjords
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 02:39 PM
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25. Damn. Beat me to it. nt
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 10:22 PM
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37. yes Norwegian death metal is the future of rock
music of the fjords!
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 02:41 PM
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27. Like Frank Zappa said, "Jazz isn't dead...it just smells funny."
Seriously, what do we have left? The dinosaurs are still out there, plodding through their "greatest hist," cranking out the occasional new studio album of songs no one wants to hear, and those young whipper-snappers want to infect the music with "beats" and bullshit. I'm sorry, when it comes to rap, I agree with a statement Gregg Allman made when interviewed by MTV at the R&R Hall Of Fame Awards a few years ago: "Rhymes with CRAP."

Rock and Roll...in the Elvis, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee, Little Richard way...

...OR in the Rolling Stones, Beatles, Who way...

is dead'r 'n' a frikkin DOORNAIL, except for occasional spurts of brilliance.

Like Lemmy. And Neil. Everyone else can bite me.

:grouphug:

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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 03:10 PM
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28. Rock isn't dead, it just endlessly recycles itself, waiting for a better replacement.
It hasn't had any new ideas in 30 years or so, just periodic revivals of different aspects of it.

The world of music is vast, and rock and roll is one tiny part of it.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 05:30 PM
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30. I usually judge a rock song by either a great "Hook" or how hard the ....
...tune/arrangement is to learn.
Take my word for it..the stuff that's played on the Top 100 now could be learn by a person that would ordinarily be known as: "She/He Sucks"
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:07 PM
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33. "easy to play" has always kinda been a part of rock
Yeah, there's plenty of rock virtuosos out there, but there's also stuff like "Louie, Louie."
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:24 PM
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35. True...but at least, most Rock in the past 30 (or so) years took more than...
...a passing knowledge of chords and required a decent Solo or two in the song.

My "Take" on the modern pop music scene is the stuff sounds like the "B" side of some Hit.
I guess what I'm trying to say is ..even a song like "Long Train running" was fairly interesting in that it had some stops and
a nice intro.
Now the stuff just drones on...no form or solos or depth just...ah...well "B" side stuff...
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 05:34 PM
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31. Death throes. nt
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:09 PM
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34. Rush killed rock and roll 25 years ago.
:popcorn:
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:25 PM
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36. +5-0!
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 01:00 AM
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38. Fuck no.
Edited on Wed Jul-15-09 01:05 AM by ghostsofgiants
And anyone who thinks it is is just lazy, arrogant, or both.
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