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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:03 PM
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So....this economy is going to force me to get breast implants. (L.O.N.G.!!)
Edited on Sat May-02-09 11:24 PM by lildreamer316
( here we go....:) this is more of a cathartic post than anything; sorry for the length; can't blame you if you don't want to read)

I'm actually being serious. I had taken some money out of my IRA when husband wrecked the car to cover the surgery and the purchase of another car,but then he has not been able to find work for months and months; and we burned through the BA money just trying to survive.

So, for your understanding..please be patient..
Exotic dancing has split into five categories now: (from http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/03/12/rich-stripper-poor-stripper/)

"The Subsistence Stripper

In most clubs, dancers set their own schedules. In some places this means signing up for shifts a week or a month in advance. Where I am this means that whenever I feel like working I show up at one of the several clubs I am hired at and say I’m working that night. A Subsistence Stripper shows up the day before rent is due or the day after her car breaks down. She only works when she needs money. If she needs $400 to pay her rent she will stay at work until she has $450, and then pack her bags and go home, happy that she has an “extra” $50 to buy groceries the next day. These are girls who do this job because they can’t handle a job with schedules and responsibilities. If they were forced to get a “normal” job they would fall into the broader category of “people who can’t hold down a steady job.” Subsistence Strippers don’t generally pay taxes, and may even collect government benefits. Their tax evasion is unlikely to ever be detected since they don’t actually make (or spend) very much on an annual basis. This group is a small minority, but they stand out because the nature of the business allows them to continue their bad habits unchecked. Drug users are most likely to fall into this category.

The Student Stripper

Student strippers fall into two categories: students who strip and strippers who go to school. The superficial difference is which activity a dancer was doing first, but the bigger difference is in her attitude towards stripping. I greatly prefer to work with strippers who go to school. Students who strip have other income sources to fall back on, whether that is parental support or student loans. Some of them just do it for fun - a rebellious lark. Most do it for spending cash or to offset school expenses not covered by loans. Either way, they don’t have a real, pressing need for money and a lot of them don’t take the job seriously. These are the girls who are most likely to treat the job like a big party and get drunk at work or spend their money on drugs.

Strippers who go to school tend to be more serious about work, since the reason they are going to school is because they’ve been stripping awhile and want to get out of it. They are women who support themselves and are paying their tuition with the cash they earn stripping. They’re usually balancing pretty heavy schedules and want to maximize their time at work.

Students who strip can have all sorts of career aspirations, but I’ve noticed that a few professions seem to be very popular among strippers who go to school: nursing, cosmetology, massage therapy, and real estate. This makes sense, as these careers require certifications that can be achieved in much less time than a B.A.

Either way, The Student Stripper views stripping as her job for the moment - a means to an end - with the end being some sort of professional career.

The Job Stripper

The vast majority of women who strip fall into this category. For that matter, most workers in any industry in any part of the world fall into this category (that is say, the broader category of Job Workers.) The Job Stripper works 4-5 shifts a week, just like she would at any other job. Depending on the particular town and club where she works, and her own skills, she is likely to bring in anywhere from what your average college graduate working in a professional field would make to what your average doctor or lawyer makes. In other words, the Job Stripper makes enough to at least comfortably support herself. Like most people, however, she spends virtually every dollar she earns and then some. Like most people, she has anywhere from a few hundred to a few thousand dollars in the bank, but never enough to withstand any real financial hardship. On the plus side, a lot of strippers don’t even bother with credit cards, so she may not have any credit card debt. On the negative side, she’s also unlikely to have bothered with health insurance or even the most basic retirement savings, since Americans are trained to think these things are the responsibility of the employer first, the government second, and the individual last.

A Job Stripper may think that since she makes as much as a doctor does she should live at the same level a doctor does. The flaw in this thinking is that while a doctor can easily practice medicine well into her sixties or later, strippers have a relatively short shelf life. Stripping is incredibly physically demanding work. It takes a definite toll on the body. Even if a woman exercises, eats well, and avoids excessive drinking and smoking, age still shows on the face. The older one gets, the more important it is to have money set aside for plastic surgery, laser treatments, Botox, etc. to keep her looking as good as possible and maximize her earning potential. Even in a best-case scenario, most women have to retire from dancing by the time they hit their mid-forties at the very latest. In all honesty, the Job Stripper who faces retirement isn’t really much worse off than your average American who is downsized and faces a forced career change at midlife. Most Americans are woefully unprepared for retirement and saddled with massive debt to boot. The biggest disadvantage the retiring Job Stripper faces is that she may never have learned how to deal with petty, demanding bosses, boorish, judgmental coworkers with whom she’s expected to cooperate (not compete), get up at 7 AM, AND she’s going to have to take a pay cut and downgrade her lifestyle. This is the eventual unglamorous fate that awaits most strippers.

The Supplemental Stripper

A decent number of women with professional jobs strip one or two nights a week for extra money. Some of them are former Student Strippers. I have encountered women with a variety of day jobs (including multiple women with Masters degrees) who dance for extra money on the side. It’s interesting to note that most strippers who do have day jobs have a job they went to school for. You don’t meet many strippers who also work at McDonald’s because those girls realize very quickly that their day job isn’t worth keeping. Women in professional jobs tend to keep them because it’s hard to explain to your loved ones that after four years of college and another five years of building your resume you’ve decided to quit to take your clothes off full-time, even if it does mean doubling your income. Some keep their day job for the benefits, like health insurance, stock options, 401(k) contribution-matching, etc. Some eventually just quit their day job because it’s kind of depressing to work in a stuffy office all week for what you can make in one or two nights of stripping. Many of those who do find themselves moving to the next category:

The Investor Stripper

This is the category I fall into. We’re a small minority, but more numerous than most people would expect. We work as much as or more than Job Strippers. I work 4-5 days a week. Some very ambitious Investor Strippers work 6-7 days a week. We giggle and flip our hair while telling customers we like to go out to bars dressed in skimpy clothes and pick up hot guys, but we really just go home and read The Street. Investor Strippers treat stripping like a business, not a job or a party. We declare our income on our taxes and take all the deductions we can. We have health insurance, 401(k)s, and a variety of goals. I know one girl who has the goal of having a million dollars in savings and her mortgage paid off by the time she retires. Another has the more modest goal of simply amassing $100,000 and deciding from there what she wants to do with it. I simply plan on dancing until I have enough passive income to replace my income from stripping, or until I find a business that is more interesting and lucrative to me.

In my opinion, dancing as an investment is the best reason to dance, and the only reason for me. Given the social stigma and the judgment I have faced from my own family, I don’t think I would make the choice to dance for just a little extra spending money, nor would I be happy sinking it all into material possessions and a comfortable (but temporary) lifestyle. I have to make sure it pays off for me in a big way. Of course, for someone with a more open-minded family than my own this wouldn’t be as much of a consideration. Still, given the stereotyping and judgment that anyone working in the sex industry in America faces, I think all strippers should take the attitude that “the best revenge is living well.” That’s what I do."
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I was a Job Stripper until I got pregnant.Now, I want to be an Investor Stripper. It's where my skills lie. I know how to do this job, and do it well. Why not use that? Starting over in another profession will take years..I have 14 invested in this one.

But, like other independent contractors; I need certain tools to maximize my earning potential. A breast augmentation is that tool to take me to the next level. I have approached this like any other job; I have learned sales skills and networked and attempted to hone my skills in a sober and responsible way. I have a friend who has taken over and expanded the first sales school for strippers in existence (started in 2002 in Las Vegas; now called DancerWealth). She is part of a growing group of us who are starting to take this work to the next step; and to use the profession as a step up for more women instead of less. I want to be part of that; since my husband and I are both in the biz and we have so much passion for it. I'm serious, we sit around and talk about how it should be and how to improve it on a daily basis..for fun. We drive our friends nuts with it. We love it. What can I say?

So all this is just to say that I'm incredibly frustrated by the fact that I'm 35 and cannot see my way clear to getting the tool that I need to do my job to the best of my ability in this economy. Our credit is not complete shit; but we do not have an appreciable amount of money coming in with which to base any kind of loan off of. We do not have a lot of bills (no house pmt; no car pmt; no cc cards); so that should tell you how little we are living off of. Husband has sent resumes out clear to San Francisco; but we can't pay for him to get out there anyway ;and when managers find out that we are across the country, it tends to make them dismiss his application - even though he is extremely qualified. The clubs around here are very cliquish and political; and since at one time he has worked for all of them,now half of them try to screw the others over by NOT hiring him (hope that makes sense). One of them (the one I was at for years until my pregnancy) now will not even let us ON THE PROPERTY because he was hired at the competition (that has not opened yet due to delays; will not open until JUNE; and the owner that told him he was hired has not replied to his phone calls and emails in three months..so does he have a job? we have no IDEA.) So I and he are both relegated to working in this little hole in the wall half an hour west of here. Everywhere else is overrun with drugs or too many girls or too much contact (read: prostitution) for me or him. He used to work in Charlotte,but that is two hours away and now that he quit one place down there to wait for the previously mentioned new club, no one down there will re-hire him because they are full up. I'm thinking about traveling down there a couple days a week,but those girls are in serious shape and almost all have implants (at the nice clubs I would try to work at). It's just...:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I'm frugal. I try to take care of my son and my husband and be contientious. All I need is $5700. Does it really have to be this hard to get?? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!

Now I feel shitty for complaining when I know there are people so much worse off than we are. People with real health problems; with real family problems, with real PROBLEMS. I just..want to do my part, dammit.

There. Now I'll shut up for awhile. I do love all of you and bless you if you lasted this far through all my bullshit.

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:10 PM
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1. I skipped through all that
I've your pictures you've posted here, you can't possibly need them.


I'll go back and read this now.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:31 PM
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7. You are very
sweet to say that.
Just getting some frustration out. :)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:10 PM
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2. My dear lildreamer...
That's a really interesting story, and certainly NOT bullshit!

Are you sure you can't get a loan? Have you tried?

And June isn't too far away; hopefully your husband's job will materialize...

There's got to be a way through this mess, sweetie!

I hold the good thoughts for you, always...

:hug:
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:34 PM
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8. Thanks Peggy...
and as to the loan; we may be able to get what my Credit Union calls a "signature loan"; but it's only for $2500 if our credit is below a certain score...$5000 if it is above. So we'll have to see.

We're surviving; we're just beyond frustrated. You know how it is. :)

Kudos on the poetry, btw. I enjoy reading it.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:18 PM
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Wow, so Strippers that are students first aren't the best to work with
Edited on Sat May-02-09 11:22 PM by sasquatch
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:39 PM
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9. OMG you have no idea..
they can be cool, but usually a pain in the (bare) ass.
But yanno? each to their own. Doesn't really affect me.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:18 PM
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3. Not that you need me to, I can respect that decision.
Edited on Sat May-02-09 11:58 PM by flvegan
And I hope you find the ways and means to obtain what you need and I wish you and your family nothing but the best.

edit: spelling
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:40 PM
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10. Thank you flvegan.
You are always so chill.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:21 PM
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4. I can't read that, but I get the gist.
Sweetpea, I don't doubt it. I'm looking at a facelift because nobody wants to hire a 46 year old to do ANYTHING. I've removed dates from my resume and the next step is a blepharoplasty and chin reduction. :hug:
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:30 PM
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6. Well, I actually have something for you!!
Face exercise.

No really, I am not kidding. If I could scan my DL pictures for you, you would see that it works.
Go google it,but there is a torrent that I can point you to that has one lady's whole course on video..you just download and follow the video. I'm telling you, it works. I have significantly improved my nasal-labial folds and my jowels with this program.

YOu are looking for:

Facercise ( I use most of this)
Flex Effect
http://www.shapeyourface.com/
http://www.carolynsfacialfitness.com/

if you want more info let me know, including the place to dl the torrent that has the full Facercise program on it.

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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:22 PM
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5. Thanks for the interesting and educational post. Best of luck
what ever way you go with it all :hug:
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:41 PM
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11. 'preciate that my dear.
Shit happens, we're just frustrated..like everyone else. We'll get past it.
:hug: to you too.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:47 PM
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12. Instead of Getting Breast Implants, Why Don't You and Your Husband
open your own club? You both could put your knowledge of the business to work for yourselves.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:59 PM
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13. Okay. $5K vs One million. Seriously??
Edited on Sun May-03-09 12:00 AM by lildreamer316
And even if it didn't take that much, it would take close to that much to pay off all the ppl we would have to grease palms for, even IF it isn't a gentleman's club. Have you heard what's going on around the country in reference to strip clubs these days? Just because we got rid of a conservative pres does not mean the conservative movement is dead on a local level AT ALL. Ohio has been decimated; as well as laws in Houston, a tax in almost all of Texas; raids in Dallas; new laws oustide Seattle; and most recently a move in NJ that I'm still trying to find out about. Now, this could actually be a good thing for our industry because it may force it to return to a higher entertainment factor than it is currently, and weed out the proliferation of competitors (oversaturation of market areas). But right now the bottom line is that we would need serious investors either way..even for a small club.

On the other side, a $5700 investment can possibly enable me to earn between $200 to $500 a night and maybe more..I'm being conservative because of the shit economy. With careful budgeting and investing; we could partly finance our own club by the time I am 40; or at least be in a powerful negotiating position (in other words,not have someone else own ALL of our club!).

To me, there is no comparison.

Don't worry, we are def. planning on opening our own club. But I feel this is an indespensable tool I need to have.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 12:05 AM
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14. One of the best posts I've ever read on DU
Edited on Sun May-03-09 12:18 AM by OmahaBlueDog
Thank you for that.

It's interesting reading about your take on the "Supplemental Stripper". NPR on "The Story" had a really interesting interview with a substitute teacher in LA. She substitute teaches pretty much full time, but goes to Vegas 1 weekend a month to strip. It was interesting in that teaching is what she wants to do, but she makes a substantial income stripping part time.

It's easy to be judgemental about the implants, but at the end of the day, it's an investment...like continuing education, or buying business equipment. Actors and singers get face lifts and tummy tucks all the time; nobody raises an eyebrow -- it's the business.

Good luck!

On edit: With respect to the $5,700: I have always seen financing options at plastic surgery and RK providers. How hard are those loans to get, and what type of interest are we talking (I'm guessing CC type interest).
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 12:20 AM
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15. Thank you..
but I didn't write the "stripper" parts; that link is there..just to be clear. I've notice the same thing myself, but that lady really clarifies it with her writing, probably better than I ever could. I tend to run-on in my sentences; LOL. My english porfessor mother would turn over in her grave.

Yes, implants are really just another tool. Ashes to ashes and dust to dust. The body is a temple, but it is also a vehicle and is here for us to make the most of. IMHO, of course.

Who was it that said they wanted to slide into the grave sideways with a martini in each hand??

;)

Thanks for your comments.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:27 AM
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16. I understood you didn't write those parts
Edited on Sun May-03-09 01:27 AM by OmahaBlueDog
..but bringing your story, combined with the explanation you quouted and cited, gave real insight into the nature of a business people don't understand.

I read your response to the post on opening your own club. I'd add this. First, even factoring stripping out of it, running a bar under the best of circumstances is a PITA. Employees steal, employees don't show, and employees quit at the drop of a hat. Then there is the spectre of customer liability over drunken behavior. Now add dancers. These are independent contractors in most establishments, as you point out, have a variety of behavior patterns and motivations for showing up and performing. Now, add the law and local customs. For example, in my part of the world: some towns allow nude dancing, but only if no alcohol is present; some allow topless; some allow thongs and "pasties" (which, as often as not, is latex paint applied strategially); some the customers must place the money on the dance floor; some they must hand it to the dancer ... you know the drill better than I do, I'm sure. Surprisingly, I learned much of this in my professionsl, not a customer, capacity. Bottom line -- it's a mess.

I also find it somewhat amusing the people who oppose these businesses. Those from South Florida will remember the story of a City Councilman and attendee of a politically influential, conservative church in Fort Lauderdale (I won't name him, but this was a well publicized story about 15 years ago). He fought to get alcohol banned at clubs featuring nude dancing, and forced several clubs to close or relocate. He later was busted in a prostitution sting.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:49 AM
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