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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:31 PM
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Hi...I'm back from the ER...
I'm so exhausted, I can barely see straight.

I got there, she was on oxygen...A Dr came in and basically told me that while her oxygen levels were good, she was too weak to get the Co2 back out, and that her levels were getting dangerous.

We decided to try the Bi-Pap machine, but after a half hour, it wasn't working. So I basically had to make a decision on the spot:

Ventilator or let her go.

I rushed outside to call my brother, just as my sister was arriving. We decided to ventilate her, and move her to Worcester where her ALS team is, so that we can gather the family together and make a decision, including my Dad.

I think we all know what that decision will be, sadly. :(

I'm home, so tired, and having a stiff drink. My head hurts. I slept like shit last night. This is so much harder than I could have imagined. I've never had to make a life-or-death decision like that. It's not fair.

Thanks for all of the good wishes and thoughts. :grouphug:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:32 PM
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1. .
:hug:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:34 PM
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2. I'm so sorry
:pals:
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:36 PM
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3. I'm so sorry you're going through this.
:hug:
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:40 PM
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4. We're never really ready for it
no matter how old or young we are. I've been where you are.

My mom passed away 13 years ago this summer and of course, she's still with me.

:grouphug:
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:40 PM
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5. It's not fair, no
No child should ever be put in that position. I thank my lucky stars that I never was, and I'm so sorry you were, and for all of this.

:hug: :loveya:



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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:03 PM
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19. I know, right?
I'm the healthcare proxy for both parents. Funny how I'm the middle child, and yet, as my Ex said last night, I'm actually the big sister that everyone's going to lean on from here on out. Fucking fantastic.

At least my Sister made a grand reappearance at the last moment. Figures.

/rant over

:loveya:
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:41 PM
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6. ...
:hug:

RL
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:43 PM
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7. I'm so very sorry
:hug:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:43 PM
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8. I love you
:hug:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:45 PM
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10. I love you too
I'm ok, just shellshocked and exhausted. You can tell your Mom that I'm not up for any calls right now. You can relay any info that I give you.

:hug:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:43 PM
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9. No it is not fair
:hug:

I think moving her to Worcester is the right decision.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:46 PM
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12. I think so too
I felt selfish making that decision, but I wanted my Dad to be able to see her again, and for my Grandma to be able to say goodbye to her daughter. It was Grandma's birthday yesterday, she's 88.

:hug:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:06 PM
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21. Nothing selfish about it. You are showing us all incredible strength, even if it doesn't
feel like it right now. There is no easy decision in this case, and you made the one that helps the most people.

I'm used to trying to make people see the positive in a situation, but the only positive here is that you are doing what others need you to do, and you will one day get through it. Wish there was more. :hug:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:09 PM
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22. That is not selfish at all.
Gives everyone close to her a chance to see her and say goodbye.

Took a lot of strength and courage to make that decision.

:hug:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:45 PM
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11. I've been there twice, bi-baby.
I wish I could carry this for you. It's a tough thing you and your family are going through and I'll keep you in my heart.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:49 PM
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13. I am so sorry
I can only imagine how heavy this decision must weigh on you and your family. You and yours are in my thoughts.

:hug:
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:50 PM
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14. ..
:hug:
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:52 PM
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15. i am so sorry you have to make such a decision
:hug:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:00 PM
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16. I'm sorry you're going through this, sweetie. It royally sucks.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:01 PM
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18. You said it, my dear friend
My head is spinning. I'm shellshocked. I jump every time the phone rings. I've never sobbed in the arms of a Dr I've never met before. That was weird.

I'm hating life right now. A lot.

:hug:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:00 PM
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17. baby, I'm so sorry.
:hug:

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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:04 PM
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20. I'm sorry Bi.
I do think you and your siblings made the right decision, you've thought of both your Dad and your Grandma getting to say goodbye and I think that's really important for everyone including your Mom.

:hug:
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:13 PM
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23. I'm so sorry
you are in my thoughts :hug:
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:14 PM
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24. I'm so sorry
:hug:

I can't begin to imagine all the emotion and sadness.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:18 PM
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25. There are no easy decisions at this time
Been there myself. It sounds like your parent's put the right person in change.
:hug:
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:20 PM
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26. Choices we hope never to have...
I'm so sorry that this one found you. Be good to yourself.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:21 PM
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27. I will keep Mom, you and your family in my thoughts.
:hug:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:21 PM
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28. Fair never comes into it, no.
I'm sorry, hon. :hug:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:27 PM
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29. I am so sorry - it's so difficult to go through such difficult choices...


I have had several friends and family members who have had to make those kinds of choices.


:hug:
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:29 PM
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30. Ah, honey I'm so sorry
I wish you strength now and in the days ahead. :hug:
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:29 PM
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31. I am so sorry--don't ever 2nd-guess having to buy some time
in order to make that decision TOGETHER. We did the same with my mother last year, even went home to sleep on it AFTER agreeing because we didn't want my bi-polar/ALZ father to give us grief later on. I am very grateful we didn't feel rushed into that process. It took at least 8 hours after the vent was removed, too.

Make sure you take advantage of any help which is offered and don't be afraid to ask. You're not superhuman and this is also about YOU. ALS is a wicked thing--we're doing a walk on Saturday in support of our dear friend who has is and probably won't last until the end of the year. :(
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 06:02 PM
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36. Thank you so much for doing the walk
:hug: It means a lot to me. Seriously.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 06:07 PM
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37. Hopefully this will help you smile...
Edited on Thu Apr-02-09 06:08 PM by Dappleganger
http://web.alsa.org/site/TR/Walks/FloridaWalk?team_id=110580&pg=team&fr_id=5350

We're Ballowe's Bunch--look at the picture, I'm the goofy woman on the far left next to the lady w/the white ballcap.

I'm walking for you, your mom and for my buddy Larry and his sweet wife, Laurie. :loveya:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 06:09 PM
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38. Great looking crew!
Thank you so much, really. I hope to be able to do a walk once this is over.

You're the best. :loveya:
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:30 PM
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32. It's not fair.
It sucks. It truly sucks.
:hug:
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:36 PM
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33. I am so very sorry..
I got news of my mom's demise via cell phone 900 miles away...I know this is hard for you but since I have "followed" you and your posts for many times, while you may not think you are up to the task, you are.

Thoughts, prayers, and white light coming your way. :hug:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:39 PM
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34. So sorry.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:44 PM
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35. Oh, honey ............
You're doing everything right and you cannot make a mistake. Keep that in mind.

You are perfect now, and you are always correct.

I'll be thinking of you, sweetie .......................
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 06:09 PM
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39. Thank you sweetie
my new friend. :)

I'm trying to keep my head above water...that's all I can really do right now.

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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 06:18 PM
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40. it sounds like you have done everything you could, and everything
right this time. Moving her to Worcester so her mom can see her, too, is wonderful. I'm so sorry you have to say goodbye this way, and now. :hug:
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 08:35 PM
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41. You are in my thoughts.
I'm so sorry.

:hug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 08:38 PM
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42. I'm sorry bibaby
:hug: hug:

at this point it isn't a life or death decision, it just feels like it. I don't envy you and your family having to let go. It sounds like the answer is there for all of you to find together.

love you bibaby :hug:
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RiffRandell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 08:51 PM
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43. I am so sorry.
Vibes for you and your family.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 08:52 PM
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44. Loving vibes for strength of spirit bi_baby
And for rest.

Times like these cam wreck a body.

You, your brother, sister, Dad and sniffa are all in my thoughts. :hug: :loveya: :hug:
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 08:54 PM
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45. My dad made that one easy by telling us in advance: "No Ventilator".
Edited on Thu Apr-02-09 08:55 PM by PassingFair
He had seen his mother die on one, and he
knew that once his diaphragm went, he wouldn't
be able to go off of it.

Good thing is, the Co2 levels made him so
sleepy he just kind of slid off.

I was with him at the end.
The most horrible moment that
I never would have missed for
the world.

Life's a bitch, and then....

Stay strong, BiBaby.

:hug:
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Steven_S Donating Member (810 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 08:56 PM
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46. You and your mom are often in my thoughts
You did the right thing by moving her where the ALS team is. Sadly, it doesn't sound like mom would tolerate a tracheostomy well. Just love her and do the best you can. :hug:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 08:58 PM
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48. Thank you, my friend
:hug:

I'm trying.

You take care of you. :)
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 08:58 PM
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47. .
:hugs: and vibes. You are wise and strong. I can't even imagine doing half of what you have done for your family. Peace. I'll keep your family in my thoughts.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 08:59 PM
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49. Awwww, Hugs To You Sweetie
Edited on Thu Apr-02-09 08:59 PM by Dinger
Be well. I'm thinking of you, and sending good vibes. Hope it works.:grouphug:
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 09:10 PM
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50. At the toughest of times,

I suspect you are making her proud. Every wish for comfort for all of you. :hug:
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 09:19 PM
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51. I'm so sorry
This sucks.

I know you will make the right decision, but it is so hard and so sad.

White light to you, Mom and all the family.
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