I got hit up on last night, by a guy. In a lesbian bar. He insisted I'd made a mistake about gay.

[Lil Missy]

First of all, he sat next to me and talked my fucking leg off, and obviously hitting on me. I tried to engage in other conversations, but he wouldn't leave me alone or STFU.

I did finally tell him, "you do know this is a gay women's bar, don't you?" He said yes, I do know that. But I think lots of straight women come here, so I don't want to exclude the possibility of meeting women here. Some eventually realize they made a mistake, and haven't met the right guy yet.

Well, I was just about ready to belt him. I complained to one of the owners, who happens to be one of my best friends. She said he comes in on occasion and does this savior shit, but he never stays long. So I held my powder.

I absolutely hate confrontations, so I ignored him. At least I tried. He grabbed my shoulders and persisted on pursuing more conversation. He wanted to know if I had been treated badly by some man, and if I had made a mistake deciding I'm gay.

I said, no, I've not been treated badly by men. And yes, I did make a mistake. Which was ever being with men in the first place. Because I'm gay. I think he saw the fire in my eyes, because I was getting plenty annoyed with him.

He did leave shortly after that. He's lucky I'm pretty cool-headed, and the owner talked me down. I was about ready to bloody his nose.

I left early.

Men friends? Fine. I have several. But fuck buddies or trying to "cure" me; not appreciated. Not at all.

BTW, this is not an April Fools joke.

Lil Missy

[no name no slogan]

1. You could've asked if he was treated badly by a man

and reassure him that he just needed a good homosexual lover to fix him.

[Jamastiene]

12. ...

:thumbsup:

[Withywindle]

74. Exactly!

And given him the adresses of some good gay men's bars.

[DarkTirade]

2. Well damn, there goes my plan.

:P

Seriously, what a jerk.

[Jamastiene]

8. I'd say that is a blueprint for how NOT to pick up a woman,

no matter the sexual orientation. It's that "God's gift to women" attitude that is the turn off.

[DarkTirade]

9. And the ones it does impress are the ones I wouldn't want to date anyway.

:P

[Jamastiene]

17. I honestly cannot imagine who that would impress.

Maybe it could still be used though. If you see a guy treating a woman like that, you could "rescue" her from him by skipping a chair and talking to her like an everyday regular conversation. She might take the hint and move over a chair and talk to you, thereby leaving the asshole to himself.

You'd be truly rescuing her (from him) AND probably make a friend out of it. She might know straight female friends. :thumbsup:

[DarkTirade]

33. Eh, moot point since I've been more interested in boys lately than girls.

:P

[Shell Beau]

3. What a dumbass! One guy tried to persuade me (I am married)

that I needed to try his magical 3! Yeah, that makes me want to leave my husband. Some people are just flat out idiots and will do anything to pick up someone!

[Jamastiene]

11. magical 3?

Was he talking about size? :spray:

[Shell Beau]

15. I know! We laughed our asses off. 3 inches, no thanks!

But then someone told me maybe he meant his twig and berries! :shrug: Either way, NO thanks!

[jmm]

24. That reminds me of one time when

I was trying to order a sub and a guy kept on flirting with me. When I asked for a small Italian he said, "Here I am!" I replied that he was awful secure to announce he was small in public. He got the hint and left me alone after that.

[Shell Beau]

26. Haha! Awesome!

:thumbsup: People need to be called on their lame ass pick up lines!

[Jamastiene]

31. zOMG,

You owe me a keyboard. :spray:

[DarkTirade]

30. Wait... inches... or centimeters?

:P

[Jamastiene]

32. Oooh, good one!

:rofl:

[Wetzelbill]

62. .

:rofl:

[Jamastiene]

4. I cannot think of anything worse than that.

I despise that type of attitude more than anything else in this world. In all sincerity, if the people who get by with gay bashing because of feeling "creeped out" by a gay person get to get by with their gay bashing bullshit, why can't lesbians deck a guy who won't fucking goddamn STFU?

If I ever got to deck some sombitch who was hitting on me using those codewords (choice, "the right man," "man hater,") and being pushy about it like that (KEEP YOUR FILTHY MITS OFF MY PERSON, ASSHOLE!), and get away with it, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I'd show them a bashing they'd never forget. :mad:

God, that's my biggest pet peeve with people.

[Oeditpus Rex]

16. I'd better stop flirting with you

:scared:

[Jamastiene]

23. Nah, you are ok.

Just don't ever use those nasty anti lesbian code words like "choice" or "the right man." If you do that, we shall fight. :P

[Oeditpus Rex]

44. Yeah, but seriously

Sometimes I'm afraid I've stepped out of bounds. I think you're super-cool and hot and all that, as I do some other lesbians (and even a gay guy or two), but I'm often afraid that saying that isn't the right thing to do, even if I'm not pushy about it. I'm still learning all this as I go along.

[Lil Missy]

133. Good god, I hear you. I prefer to do things like this quietly and politely.

But good god damn, after I'd made it completely clear that I was on ignore mode, he had the fucking nerve to come GRAB me, and insist he could "change my world", in so many words.

That's when I had fire in my eyes. The owner told me she was watching the situation. I had to visit the biffy. I don't know when, what, why, or how. He was gone when I came back.

Good thing, for him. I was about ready to knock his smarmy teeth out.

[blogslut]

5. Why don't they ban him from the bar?

I know I would if I was manager there.

[Jamastiene]

10. BEST. IDEA. YET.

If the person is making other customers feel like that, they should be kicked out. Why keep that one obnoxious customer around when he may be running off one or more other customers? Your idea is the best one I've seen yet.

[blogslut]

14. Yep

There could be mitigating circumstances. Perhaps he has been threatened with a good old 86-ing and threatened to sue in retaliation. If the bar owner isn't wealthy or the town is anti-GLTB, that could be pa problem. Dude sounds like the type that would threaten to sue.

If banning is out of the question, then it's time for ostracizing and shaming.

[Lil Missy]

142. No, he is not hanging an 86'd thing for retaliation. And what could possibly be his argument???

That he is a straight guy going into a lesbian bar to find a date?

I would think that even a freeper judge would find that ridiculous.

Oh, I forgot. He has a "magical dick", and is just the right guy to turn any lesbian woman right again.

:eyes:

Give me a fucking break.

I'd like to buy a vowel now.

[Lil Missy]

22. He would be, if we'd had a confrontation.

He never stays over an hour or so, thus I'm told. He spends money; they make a few bucks. It's business.

[blogslut]

28. It's bad business

The man is harassing customers. I wouldn't tolerate it.

[DarkTirade]

37. I'd agree if it were my bar.

All niceties aside, even from a completely ruthless business perspective, a couple bucks every now and then isn't worth alienating regular customers.

[Lil Missy]

53. I agree. But I am not so regular - maybe once or twice a month now. Because of shit like this.

And they hired the narcissist back. She's already causing problems again.

No problem, I can stay home. :)

[Lil Missy]

138. He'd be unwelcome if I were in charge.

Actually, the owner might have kicked him out, I'm not sure.

I had complained to her about him. I told her he would not take a hint to leave me alone, or STFU.

I had to go visit the biffy. I don't know what happened while I was in there. I just know he was gone when I came back out. She may have kicked him out. I didn't ask questions.

I just knew if that asshole propositioned me one more time, I was gonna smack him in the chops. How many times and ways can one say NO!

[CaliforniaPeggy]

6. Good for you!

I would have belted him!

I mean, really.

Men (well, at least this one) and their fucking rescue fantasies.

:grr:

[Jamastiene]

7. That's just it.

Not all men have that kind of attitude, but the ones who do make me want to turn into a murderer. They really think they are all that. The ones like that give me the creeps.

[Lil Missy]

43. I was getting just about ready to!

Most of the men I know are much more polite than that.

I was about ready to deck him.

[ccharles000]

13. ...

:hug:

[Mike 03]

18. Yeah, he made a mistake pulling that crap in a bar for lesbians, but

how old was he?

I think a lot of straight guys have developed a crush on lesbian women, and that that fantasy of being with them can be strong sometimes. But hopefully it passes as we get older.

But I'm sure it was annoying as hell, especially in that location. That is just obnoxious.

EDIT

To this day I have a huge crush on Ellen Degeneres, but I have no "fantasy" of ever meeting her, let alone winning her love...

[Jamastiene]

29. Fantasies are one thing.

Like you explained, fantasies are one thing. Actively trying to "change" someone's sexual orientation is when that person has crossed the line. Well said.

[Mike 03]

41. Yeah, you are right. I would never ever actually try to change someone's sexuality.

That would be offensive beyond anything I could imagine.

[elshiva]

48. This is so true. I have so many sexual fantasies about John Barrowman.

However, I don't want to "change" his sexuality. It's one of the many things that make him who he is.

[DarkTirade]

58. I wouldn't want to change his sexuality either.

:loveya:

[elshiva]

59. Oh, NEVER, honey, NEVER. I am so glad that he so openly gay.

:loveya:
Actual poster campaign in Scotland:

[Withywindle]

78. Me too.

And I don't want to change his sexuality at all. My fantasies are about a long mental list of male celebrities I'd like to WATCH him with.


(Huh, creepy voyeur in the closet? Me? Only in my fantasies!)

[Lil Missy]

34. Oh, I'm sure he was younger than me. But his purpose was/is, to "cure"

He just KNEW if he'd fuck me, I'd be "cured", forever.

I was just about ready to knock him on his ass.

[Mike 03]

42. Yeah, you are right. That is wrong and offensive.

Sometimes if you get a crush on someone (and I'm not saying that was his case with you), it can override civility, logic and reason.

But nevertheless, you are right: it is wrong.

[Lil Missy]

51. Oh heavens. I had no crush, he just wouldn't STFU.

[ThomCat]

111. You have to wonder what makes someone so absolutely

sure of his fantasies or wishful thinking that he takes them so seriously, and feels comfortable spouting that shit in public.

If his delusion about his 'magical curative sex power' didn't fit acceptable bigotry he'd end up in a psych ward for that kind of thinking.

[KitchenWitch]

64. It is that whole conquest mentality

I encountered it a lot when I was single because I am a rather tall woman. A lot of short men LOVED me not for me, but for the whole "look at ME, I climbed this mountain" thing. Really fucking annoying.

[ThomCat]

112. I hope you left them

even smaller then when you first found them. :P

Joking aside, that's really obnoxious, and I didn't realize tall women had to deal with that. I'm very sorry you get targeted for that. :(

[KitchenWitch]

118. LOL

Some of them, yes... tiny tiny little men.

:P

Great to see you!

:hi:

[Withywindle]

77. Who care about fantasies? We all have them!

I'm a bi woman who is ALL about the slash fanfic (if you don't know what it is, google it) as a hobby and a private wanktasy, but I don't go to gay bars expecting men to perform for my benefit.

Private fantasies are great; no harm, no foul, as long as they stay private.

Making actual real people uncomfortable for the sake of your fantasies? Not cool. Not OK. Really, really not. I really especially hate the idea of LGBT spaces being exploited as places for "adventurous" straight suburbanites to "get their ya'yas out" before settling down with socially-approved co-breeder partners in the suburbs, with no increased social/political awareness involved.

[Symarip]

19. Homophobic, macho assholes like that

Give run-of-the-mill assholes like me a bad name.

I swear, we're not all like that. I would never try persuade someone my way, regardless. The audacity to do it in a gay bar is nearly beyond belief.

I would have beat the stupid out of him.

[Lil Missy]

40. I know all men are not like that. I have male friends, some of whom I adore, dearly.

In fact, MOST men are not that obnoxious.

I love men! I just don't wish to fuck one. My favorites don't get all macho or screwy/macho about it. Bestest friends ever, I'm telling you.

I think you are probably a good guy, Syrup.

:-)

[Symarip]

103. Aw

You called me 'Syrup'. I'll wear it like a badge of honor.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

20. Oh, honey ............

I had the opposite happen to me.

I was with a bunch of gay pals in a gay bar - all male. I was the only female there, which was often the case, but I knew a lot of the people there.

So this guy starts hitting on me. At first, I didn't get it, because, you know, I'm a woman in a GAY BAR. But he persists and finally I said, "You do realize this is a gay bar, right?"

Oh, yes, he understood it. Some of his best friends, you know.

So then I said, "You do understand that I'm not here looking for a sexual partner, right?"

He said, "Well, of course. A beautiful lesbian like you doesn't have to look for a partner, I'll bet."

I had to tell him that I was straight, just having a fun night out with my friends.

He assured me that I didn't have to lie to him, but, if I chose, I would experience a kind of ecstasy with him that would change me forever.

I sent him to get us a tube of Glide, and when he left, I got my buddies to hide me and not let him near me.

The manager persuaded him to leave, and he did.

What IS it with these guys?

[Lil Missy]

69. I don't know what is with the "cure" guys. Assholes, probably.

I don't care.

[Mike 03]

21. By the way, this is a great thread. I've sort of wanted someone to raise this topic. NT

[Lil Missy]

45. Care to elaborate?

I'll be gentle, I promise. :-)

O8)

[Lil Missy]

144. Mike 03. I raised the topic. Wanna talk?

:)

[Shell Beau]

25. Why do people think they can change your mind? You know?

It reminds me of the Seinfeld episode when Elaine wanted dude to change teams. Like you choose the team. You just belong to that team. Really, who would "choose" that? With all the shit that goes along with it. People looking down at you, not letting you get married, so many stereotypes... Who would choose that? Duh! It is just the way you are. And it is as natural as my love for my husband. When will people get that?

I do think we are progressing. Slowly, yes, but, I see my Bella not knowing that it is any different for a man and man or woman and woman to be married. I hope that anyway.

[Jamastiene]

27. I hope you are right about the future.

I hope one day most people do really understand just what you just said. Beautifully written. :thumbsup:

[Shell Beau]

35. Honestly I never gave much thought at all about gay people until

I read "Prayers for Bobby" way back in college. It gave me so much perspective. All of those people who believe you choose this "lifestyle" are freakin fools.

I look at my parents and grandparents who accept it now but didn't use to. And I hope that so many more are like me and will teach their children (who are our future) to love and accept people based on their actions towards humanity. I do see us moving forward. I just wish it was at a much faster pace.

[Lil Missy]

148. I just saw "Prayers for Bobby" recently. Posted here that it was on too.

What a hearbreaking story all around.

[Captain Hilts]

36. He's the ONE man that could make you straight - you missed your chance!!!!!!

[Lil Missy]

54. Yeah! I missed that opportunity! I must be nuts!

:wtf:

:shrug:

[Captain Hilts]

101. Wouldn't you just love to have half that ego and self-esteem?!?

[Lil Missy]

104. That's not self-esteem. That's just freeper bullshit.

Save me? Oh, spare me. I'll knock his horny fucking lights out next time.

No, really, I'll just walk out. I won't get arrested over some jerk. I have a deadly mouth.

;-)

[Captain Hilts]

109. Smart girl. nt

[Roon]

38. A buddy of mine..my ex's brother...

had a straight,female, friend who was convinced she could turn him straight if only he would have sex with her. Of course he never did. Once it was realized that she was never going to get to sleep with him, she started hating everyone and everyone who was still friends with him. This was four years ago and she STILL won't talk to me. People are goofy.

[Lil Missy]

56. Now, why do people do shit like that?

Because it's only about sex, right?

That is soooo ridiculous, and tiresome.

[Roon]

76. Billy is a very good looking guy and people melt over him

this girl had herself convinced that he wasn't really gay and that any day now she was going to sleep with him. Billy and I went to the clubs one night and came back to my place to crash since it was so close to downtown. When we got to his apartment where he and his female friend lived, she FLIPPED OUT!! She cried, "You had sex with Billy!! I know you did!!!" she thought that everyone was having sex with Billy but her. This girl and I were good friends for a long time before BIlly came into the picture, and after her living with Billy, thinking she was going to have sex with Billy, she was never the same again. There is no one on this earth worth getting so obsessed over,I tell ya'....

[Withywindle]

80. I had a friend like that in college.

Male. Gay. So very gay. Had the cajones to come out in his high school in Cincinnati in the mid-80s - first student ever in that school system to do so.

I didn't disrespect his gay identity - I was just so crushed out on him because he was so much more fun to be with than most males I'd known (except the ones I always put mentally in the "friends only " category. DUH - of COURSE, those are the best men!). I just thought, somewhere in the back of my mind, that I was SO good in bed that I could eventually get him to have sex with me and enjoy it. I mean, I could give a blowjob as good as any man, right? It's not like I hadn't practiced!

Never happened, really. No matter how many mushrooms he took, the best I ever got out of him was one french kiss laden with peyote and wine, and there was no followup.

Now? Doesn't matter one whit. I like being his friend. If I'd pushed harder 20 years ago, he could have written me off as an attempted-rapist (and been right). I'm SO much happier to get an invite to his and his husband's wedding!

[Roon]

99. That's so cool

I know exactly what you mean.

[lightningandsnow]

39. People suck.

Sorry that happened to you. :hug:

[Lil Missy]

90. No problem. What comes around, goes around.

I'd smack him stupid if I see him again.

(No, not really. I'd just walk out. I hate drama.)

[Critters2]

46. He grabbed your shoulders?!!

Touching you when you don't want to be touched is damn close to assault. I think the owner or manager or whoever needs to take a firmer stance on this guy being there.

I also think you were more patient than I would've been!!

[Lil Missy]

57. Yes he did. And I was pretty close to causing a scene. I was about ready to bust his chops.

"Save" me, my ass. How 'bout a bloody nose, instead.

The owner was watching, and ready to bounce him. I wish my men friends had been there. I give them kissers and huggers, cause they are adorable.

I just hate assholes.

[burning rain]

47. Yow, my commiserations.

Haranguing you so as to try and score -- that's obnoxious and deranged.

[rurallib]

49. Lil Missy you sure get yourself into some situations.

I know this is truly serious and guys like that could be real trouble.
But damn, it sounds so much like an SNL skit. Only in the SNL skit the idiot would probably get stripped and passed around the bar for amusement.
Take care of yourself. Seems like you attract some odd critters at times.

[Lil Missy]

60. Yeah, I don't know how much more I can hibernate.

I'm also sorry that you consider me a funny idiot.

I am just myself, and won't apologize for that. I'm queer, and not going to change.

[rurallib]

96. Oh no - that is not what I think of you

I love your sense of humor. I won't judge anybody else. Goodness knows I sure have my quirks. You really seem like a nice person who seems to get into some odd situations. So do I. My dad always used to say I was too nice.
Be yourself, but please be careful.

[elshiva]

50. Sorry, Lil Missy. He is a jerk.

:hug: :hug:

[Lil Missy]

92. Yup! He's lucky. I can only speak for myself though.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

52. That type tries similar lines on straight women

Like if you mention you're depressed or anxious, they have just the cure.

Yeah, right.

[Lil Missy]

61. Sure. You just need to get fucked.

:eyes:

[Tom Kitten]

55. Whatever happened to respect?

I don't think this guy has any and to think he's tolerated because he spends money but doesn't stay long enough to push enough buttons to a breaking point is something I find interesting. A lot of bars do this, they wait until a confrontation becomes physical before they find themselves forced to do something.

[Lil Missy]

66. Hi, Tom Kitten! I wish you'd have been there, cause I'd LOVE to talk to you!

We'd have the bestest time!

:bounce: :bounce:

And another guy I've met here, whom I adore.

:-)

[Tom Kitten]

67. So do I, but we live far apart though!

I think we could have a lot of laughs! I feel so dark and cynical sometimes but really I try to put a sunshine face on it all!

[Lil Missy]

72. Awwww! I'd even give you a kisser.

Come, bring you wife. We'll have fun.

:-)

[JanMichael]

63. "He grabbed my shoulders" THAT should have been the end.

No touchy touchy or you breaky breaky.

[Lil Missy]

70. I had already made it clear I was not interested. I was about ready to bust his chops!

[Wetzelbill]

65. I guess it's one thing to take an honest shot

at someone and if they're gay, hey no harm no foul, it's time to move on. But to go to a lesbian bar to try to pick up women and then get confrontational when it doesn't happen is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Sorry you had to deal with that idiot.

[Lil Missy]

73. OMG, he wouldn't STFU. I was about ready to punch him out.

I don't bother people. Don't bother me either, fuckwad.

[OmahaBlueDog]

68. Where to start...

Bar+Y chromosome+alcohol =idiocy in the presence of females. It has always been so. Nevertheless, an apology on behalf of the gender is in order.

On a more serious note: I suspect the guy is a harmless moron with an inflated opinion of himself, but - as has been said elsewhere in the thread - don't assume that. If he's hanging about, steer clear, get someone to walk with you .... you know the drill.

[Lil Missy]

79. No need to apologize for gender. Most guys are adorable.

This guy just happens to be a jackass.

I'm sure he is harmless too.

We DO know the drill. Never walk out alone.

[Lethe]

71. just mention the strap on

and how you like using it.

[Lil Missy]

81. Nope. I've never even seen one.

You are quite obviously male.

One could not be possibly pleasured without a dick, right?

[Withywindle]

75. You could just say,

"Maybe you're right, I haven't. And I still haven't, cause it sure as hell ain't you" and move on to any more enticing conversation that presents itself, including one with a security guard about how unwelcome he is.

[Richard Steele]

82. Oh my gawd. Every time I think I've heard of the DUMBEST human ever, another one surprises me!

I really don't know what to even think about that.

Is it funny, creepy,
or just very SAD?
All of the above?
:shrug: :rofl: :cry: :crazy: :shrug::

I guess maybe I had to be there to form any sort of conclusion.

I have no idea what the HELL goes through the mind of such a person,
but I'm fairly certain that it can't be very much.


:hi: Richard

[Lil Missy]

84. Hi Richard!

We could talk. Have fun!

That guy, well he was just a jackass.

I only go there once or twice a month. I'll probably never see him again.

I'm not likely to punch his lights out. I'd probably just leave.

:hi:

[Richard Steele]

85. The science of Psychiatry has come so far in such a short time...

I imagine it could probably CURE "jackassery" within a generation,
if it wasn't against the law to grab jackasses off the street
and study them in laboratories.

*sigh* :eyes:

[Lil Missy]

87. Sorry, "jackassery" will never be cured. I just don't worry or care about it anymore.

See my sig line.

[Richard Steele]

93. Well, then, perhaps you should just cold-cock the next jackass who crosses your path.

Look, I certainly don't CONDONE physical violence.
I'm well aware of the fact that it never
makes anything better for anyone.

But, I have to admit that it's a thing that cannot be described with words.
Right or wrong, it's a LEARNING EXPERIENCE.
And it's just a part of human nature.

Win or lose, I highly recommend that you try it at least once.
It's an eye-opening CARTHARTIC experience that provides
some serious insight into "the human condition".


Win or lose...if you'd prefer to WIN, I can offer some advice
about dropping jackasses in their tracks.

PM me sometime.

Richard

[Lil Missy]

95. I was about ready to punch him. He just wouldn't leave me the fuck alone!

Hint* When someone ignores you a hundred times, an engages in other conversations, please give it up. Leave me alone!

And also, don't come to a lesbian hangout and try to convert women in there, because you are "just the perfect fuck". Puh-leeze. That is rude.

[Richard Steele]

97. So why didn't you punch him? I would have.

Life is short, so live LARGE.

Real Life: it's really just that simple.

[Lil Missy]

98. Cuz I don't want to go to jail.

And I AM a sissy, I don't like confrontations.

But I swear, I'll bloody his nose if he ever bothers me again. What a jerk!

Check your PM.

[Richard Steele]

100. Pfft, "Jail". Whatever. I held up a BANK at age 14, just to see what it was like,

It was INTERESTING, is what it was.

And you are AFRAID to hit an asshole who is in serious need
of a firm blow above the eye, while surrounded by folks
who would testify in your defense?

Wow, what's it like to be afraid of trying new things?
It's been so long since I lost that fear, I don't
really remember what it was like.

I'm mostly just afraid of small & petty things these days.
People, CHANGE, the Internal Revenue Service...
inconsequential minutiae like that.

KnowhutImean?

[GoddessOfGuinness]

83. You were too patient with him...

When he made physical contact with you, you should have told him to fuck off.

I'm pretty sure his actions could be considered assault, even though he didn't intend to harm you.

I'm sorry you had that experience... :hug::hug::hug:

[Lil Missy]

86. I think he was just a dumb jackass. When he put his hands on me, after I'd made it clear

I was not interested in being "cured", I was just about ready to punch his lights out. I think he saw the fire in my eyes. I was getting plenty pissed.

I decided I'd leave. He left before I did.

Fuck that shit.

[Drunken Irishman]

88. So wait, does this mean there can never be anything between us?

I'm disappointed. :(

[Lil Missy]

89. Well, possibly a kisser and a hugger. If you're not a jackass.

:-)

[Drunken Irishman]

91. Sad, I'm a total jackass!

:P

[Lil Missy]

94. Well then, you total jackass!

I could probably work up a smooch. And a hug. I think you are probably a nice guy.

Just don't try to change me. I might punch your fucking lights out.

[radfringe]

102. maybe he's the one that made a mistake and just hasn't

met the right guy yet.. :evilgrin:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

105. in a nyc gay bar, he would have been thrown out.

we dont go to our bars to deal with this crap

[Lil Missy]

106. He'd be gone if I were in charge. But,

I think he has offended and alienated enough people, that his days are numbered.

Oh god, this guy just KNEW if he fucked me, I'd switch teams. Sure. :eyes:

I left early, lest I'd be arrested for slapping the snot out of him.

He did leave before I did. The bitching about him continued. I just said, I gotta go. I'm getting out of here.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

107. many nyc lesbian bars, prohibit men unless they are gay for these reasons

we deserve some time away from such assholes

[SacredCow]

113. At the lesbian bar here.....

I assure you that this would have ended VERY badly for him.... They would have let him in, but he probably wouldn't have been served a drink. And once he laid a finger on any of the clientele.... :scared: Let's just say that I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

[Lil Missy]

114. Yup! We agree!

Shit like that wouldn't foul the place if up to me.

[foxfeet]

115. Is the bar "The Dutchess" still there?

I remember a time when that behavior in that bar would have gotten the guy a pool cue broken over his head.

[LynneSin]

108. This is a dumbass question but why are they letting him in the bar

I realize this is not an 'exclusive women-only' place but you'd think someone who was making it uncomfortable for women in a bar geared towards woman should be removed from the bar.

I mean I'm a straight woman and even I was offended by how he was asking

[Lil Missy]

116. Well, that's not a dumbass question.

This is a lesbian bar, and sometimes gay men stop by too. They are never a problem. Nor are the straight guys who stop by to deliver beer, play karaoke, or do DJ on any particular night any problem. Nor do their presence have any macho bullshit feelings about a gay bar.

That guy WAS offensive. He didn't really want to turn me straight, he just wanted to get his rocks off. Oh, go stick in your ear. I'll slap him snotless if I see him again. I think he knows that.

[SacredCow]

110. He touched you?

Oh, no.... He should have been kicked out.

Strangely enough, I had a woman try to pick me up at a gay bar not long ago... She was mad at her boyfriend and drunk out of her mind, though.

[Lil Missy]

120. Yes, he did grab me by the shoulders to talk in my ear. After I'd made it pretty clear

I was avoiding him. I was escalating conversation with others, on purpose, and to get away from him.

Yes, he did come grab me by the shoulders. And told me quietly in my ear, that he could "fix" me, cause he was so good.

That's when I turned around to look at him, and was ready to slap snot or draw blood. He left shortly after that.

I swear, if I ever see him again, and I bloodied his nose, the other women would say "nope. I didn't see a thing. Let's just move along. Nothing to see here"

Moral of the story? Don't go to gay women bars to pick up dates, or to convert queers. It's plenty rude.

Try me. I have backup.

[SacredCow]

122. He should be permanently kicked out, if that's his "way"

with the woman that was hitting on me, it was different... Her friends brought her to a gay bar (mostly a guy bar, but there are some regular women), specifically so they could just have a good time and not have to worry about being hit on (they WERE pretty attractive ladies, to be sure). For whatever reason, she latched on to me and kept asking me if I was SURE I was gay, but I think it was 80% the alcohol and maybe another 19.9% of her emotional state. I bought her a bottle of water (she needed to sober up), gave her my $0.02 about her boyfriend problems, and wished her well when they left.

But this guy you're describing.... He needs to find another tactic to get laid. He's going to get his clock cleaned one of these days (not that he doesn't deserve it).

[Lil Missy]

127. You remind me. There was a gal who blew through town from Texas a couple years ago.

She hit up on me first. I quickly figured out she just wanted a one-nighter fuck buddy. I declined, and told her that wouldn't interest me. She wasn't even the least bit appeasing.

So she proceeded around the bar. I just sat there, and kept my mouth shut. She must have hit every single woman in there that night, but got nowhere.

She finally got back to me. She was awfully pissed off that she didn't get a fuck buddy for one night.

She: Are you really sure you are gay? Cause I'm not feeling it from you.

Me: Well yes, I'm pretty sure I'm gay. Positive, in fact.

She: Want to come to my hotel room?

Me: I thought I already told you I was not interested in a one-nighter, fuck buddy.

She: Are you sure you are really gay?

Me: Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Why would you ask?

She: Well, I've given you an "opportunity", and you don't seem to be the least bit interested. You should really re-decide if you are gay, or not.

Me: Okay, I'll think about it. (*grumbling under my breath*)

Let's see, I must re-decide my sexuality, cause I didn't want to fuck YOU.

:rofl: :rofl:

[SacredCow]

128. You were much nicer than I'd have been.....

Let's just say that I have very specific tastes in men, and 90% of the guys who hit on me (as nice and attractive as they may be) don't really interest me (and I'm not on the market anyway, so it's a moot point). Most of the time, they take no for the answer and move on- no harm, no foul (can't fault a guy for asking, right?). A few times they prod further, but I've never had a guy question my gay-ness, and how sure am I that I am, indeed, gay. I'm pretty sure I'd have some choice words....

:rofl:

[Lil Missy]

129. Well now, you just made my point. I am a gay woman, but that doesn't mean

I am attracted to, or want to screw every woman on the damned planet! I'm pretty normal, and not interested in every woman anymore than a hetero person is attracted to everyone of the opposite sex. It just doesn't happen that way.

That is what so amused me about this woman from Texas. She could not even engage in conversation. She had a different, and specific goal.

:eyes:

Yeah, she came back to me as her last resort. And since I was not interested, there must be something wrong with me. And I should re-examine if I'm really gay.

Good fucking grief. How damned arrogant.

[cboy4]

117. This is what "they" do in their fucked up quest to try to convert

LGBT people. :puke:

[Lil Missy]

123. And why? Why do people contemplate stupid shit like that?

This guy waltzed into a queer bar, thinking he could switch some, or at least one, into going straight because of his mighty penis and fucking abilities.

Are people really that stupid?

[hunter]

119. He sounds like a rotten small town cop with connections, "saving" the world.

This is totally old school harassment and intimidation of homosexuals, and probably women in general.

If the bar keeps letting him in and he's behaving like this then maybe he has some connections that could place the bar's license in jeopardy.

Assholes like this always think they have the support of their community. He probably thinks his personal anti-gay crusade is some kind of virtue that outweighs his entirely adulterous intent. There's some really twisted religion out there.

You showed remarkable restraint. I know people who would have led him off the premises by his testosterone jewels and then slammed the door on 'em.

[Lil Missy]

124. He has no connection with the bar that could ever put them in jeopardy.

Unless I smack him.

[Debi]

121. Ugh...like 'The Gay' was an illness or something

:eyes:

I guess he thought he was just too irresistable for ANY woman to say 'NO' to him.

Next time make it clear - loud and clear - that even if you were straight he'd still not be your type! :puke:

[Lil Missy]

125. He really was not that all attractive.

He obviously thought he had such a magical dick that it would turn queer women straight. (Oh give me a break! And a relationship is not ALL about sex!)

If I ever see him agian, I'm going to shove his magical dick up his nose. And if that does not draw blood, I'll shove it up his ass.

[One_Life_To_Give]

126. Did you ask if he wanted to be Petticoated?

I mean if he really wanted to be with you (or any other Lesbian) he could at least put in some proper effort!

If I was going to expect you to go out with me I would atleast be willing to have some Bodacious Implants.

[Lil Missy]

130. I don't know what "Petticoated" means. Please explain that to me in stupid.

Now, those implants. You have them where? :)

[One_Life_To_Give]

132. Petticoating or Pinaforing

From Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petticoating


Petticoating or pinaforing, refers to a type of forced feminization sexual fantasy that revolves around the practice of dressing a boy in girls' clothing for the purpose of humiliating punishment or behavior modification (or to the literature, erotic fiction, or roleplaying of such a fantasy). While this practice is rare in modern society (as the humiliation of children has become socially unacceptable) it has occasionally been observed. However, the terms "petticoating" and "pinaforing" nearly always refer to the sexual fantasy, as opposed to the actual practice.

[Lil Missy]

134. Ewwww!

But that seems more likely in a male gay place.

For me? Nope. And YUK!

[One_Life_To_Give]

136. He becoming a Lesbian as easy as you becoming straight

You think it grosses you out. Think about what would go thru these neaderthals at the thought they should become you lesbian partner?

It's just their myopic view of the world that can only conceive of the possibility of you becoming straight and not the other possibilities of him becoming a gay woman or you both becoming agay men. Although I can't imagine why you would both need to change. If he really cared about you he should be willing to sacrifice, right?

[Lil Missy]

137. He was just a straight guy looking for an easy fuck.

The rest of that was just too complicated for me to contemplate.

Gave me a brain freeze, actually.

Yeah, I kinda see your point. But what a lost cause. He's barkin' up the wrong tree.

I can't even believe a respectful straight woman would fall for that shit.

[Sequoia]

131. Sounds like a creep.

Did he start preaching the gospel to you too? I went to a bar once in a college town and this guy got mad at me because I wouldn't go home with him so he calls me names. Later on he has some blonde sitting on his knee and he stares over at me like I should be jealous. I just blew my cigar smoke his way and ordered another beer. Some guys just can't understand when a gal just isn't interested.

[Lil Missy]

135. LOL! That's a pretty good description. I could not have been less interested.

Good fucking christ, I ignored him in 101 ways.

He just wouldn't leave me alone, or STFU.

Gawd. And yes, he was a creep.

Oh, on a mission to "fix" me? How 'bout you kiss my ass instead.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

139. I think my jaw just shattered on the floor.

Arrogant POS. The right guy. He ain't that for anyone.

The bloodying of his nose would have been something I'd pay to see. :rofl:

:loveya: for who you are :)

[Lil Missy]

141. You'd pay to see me bust his chops? Hmmmm.

Well, I seriously hate confrontations. Verbally, and certainly physically. But pay-per-view? Now, I might consider that.

I only go there once or twice a month, so I'd have to have the owner helping. She calls me, and I go there and bust his chops while he is trying to convert gay women. (Asshole!)

No one sees a thing. He must have been drunk and fell on his face, and broke a couple teeth.

I think he's probably a freeper too. So Skittles could kick some ass. Yes, INDEED!

:rofl: :rofl:

[BreweryYardRat]

140. *wince*

I can't even fathom that sort of behavior. If someone you're attracted is gay and you didn't know, that's one thing. Apologize and move on. If you've got a friend who's gay and you find yourself attracted to them, write it off as "not ever happening" and stay friends.

But to deliberately try and "convert" someone? :wtf:

A handy hint, on the off chance you run into an asshole like this again: Get a metal cylinder, small enough that you can wrap your fist around it. Works as well as brass knuckles, and it's a lot easier to hide.

[Lil Missy]

143. Yes, really.

Deliberately and knowingly come into a lesbian gay bar looking for women to convert? Now, excuse me, but I think that is plenty rude.

Thanks for the tip about the metal cylinder. I'll pass that along. I really abhor violence of any kind. If necessary with this freeper, I'll just backhand him with my bare knuckles.

I'd dare him to take a swing back at me. He'd be immediately tackled down by about 10-15 lesbians, with the Police on the way. He might get one swing in. I'll take one for the team.

[moriah]

145. That fuckwit has very large balls. And not in a good way.

Someday he will get his ass kicked for that shit... and I'd love to watch it when it happens. Good for you, though, on holding your temper.

Getting blood all over yourself is just so messy...

[Lil Missy]

146. Oh, blood and bodies are so hard to clean up and hide. I just bitched to the owner.

How many times and ways can one say NO! Leave me alone!

I went to the biffy. He got disappeared. I didn't ask questions.

[Lil Missy]

147. I am seriously considering inviting my male friends next time he comes around. And my brothers too.

Seriously. He wouldn't know which ones were gay or straight.

They'd be swarming about him all night. Let's see how HE'D like that.

[Lil Missy]

149. kick, just for the hell of it. And morning.