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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:06 PM
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Is it "douche-y" to say gracias to the server at a Mexican restaurant?
I was just at the local yummy-spot drinking 2 fer 1's Dos Equis (woohoo) and eating my fav, the number 12 combo (a chili relleno, burrito and enchilada) and the tools at the booth next to me kep asking for things just so they could tell the cute little Seniorita "gracias". It struck me as a very petty, douche-y thing to do. They knew no other Spanish (else they would have been pissed at what she was saying about them to the other server).

So, is it douche-y to say "gracias" if that's all the Spanish that you speak?



PS. Is the number 12 combo a chili relleno, burrito, and enchilada at every Mexican restaurant? I'm beginning to think so.
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moriah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:08 PM
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1. Once, maybe not. Multiple times, especially if it's....
... dropping their fork so they can say "graci-ass" when the cute Seniorita bends over to pick it up, definitely.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:15 PM
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2. Somebody with a graci-ass needs to take a bath with a big loofah sponge
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:17 PM
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4. hey, that's my loofah
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:17 PM
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3. 1. Not if you can capably order in Spanish
2. Not if the little senorita is "cute" -- that falls under the "all's fair in Love" rules of land warfare
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Dramarama Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:19 PM
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7. Hey, do you have a larger version of your sig?
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:20 PM
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9. Try this
Edited on Thu Mar-26-09 07:25 PM by OmahaBlueDog



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Dramarama Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:30 PM
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13. Thanks a bunch!
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Dramarama Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:18 PM
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5. And they say
"sure thing sweetie"
You can say muchismas gracias so you don't sound douchistical
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:19 PM
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6. de nada
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:20 PM
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8. Si, si, señor.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:22 PM
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10. "uno mas cerveza, por favor" & "donde es el bano"
the extent of my Spanish. It served me well in Cozumel
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:29 PM
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12. Two very useful phrases.
In fact, I dare to say, you would not want "uno mas cerveza, por favor" without knowing how to say "¿Donde esta el baño?"
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:23 PM
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11. Only if you're Radio Lady.
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:36 PM
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33. ouch.
:rofl:
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 11:22 PM
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14. Here in the deep south
it's not douchy at all! It just sets up a relationship where you are open to practice/grow your Spanish language skills, and they are comfortable practicing their ESL skills with you.

We have good friends here who always ask us "how are you" in English, and we always reply in Spanish, after that the conversation evolves into Spanglish. No douchery involved, just a two-way-street for practicing language skills.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 03:40 AM
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15. It's not "douche-y"
as long as you don't pronounce it "grassy-ass"
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:32 AM
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16. It's only douche-y
When it's said in a douche-y way. Sounds like those fellows were being asses.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:35 AM
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17. Dos Equis Amber? or Lager?
Me gusta mucho the Amber :9

As to the 'gracias' question, it's not douche-y to say Gracias if that's all you know, it IS douche-y to keep calling a server over just to cater to your whims.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:43 AM
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18. So, what sort of tip did they leave?
I'm a big dumb gringo and NEVER reveal I grok some Spanish expletives. I politely tip 5 bucks more than I should, and tell them the food was superb. When I come in my Margarita is usually waiting for me at my table.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:54 AM
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19. I jumped an asshat's butt at a Mexican spot in Colorado...
He was telling the waitress she spoke very poor English. She tried to explain she was Greek, married to a soldier, and he was in Vietnam. I leaned over and whispered in ass hat's ear and told him I was a close friend of her husband's and I'd shove my fist down his throat and rip his nuts out if he fucked with her again. He tipped her rather well when he left.
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cherish44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 07:52 AM
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20. Well in the scenario you described it was douchey
but it isn't always.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 08:12 AM
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21. No more than saying xie-xie at a chinese restaurant, I s'pose.
:shrug:
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 09:59 AM
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23. Bu ke qi
:D

bú kè qì
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:28 PM
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29. ... gesuntite?
:P
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:32 PM
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31. lol
:P
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:31 PM
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27. I've usually found
that Chinese are happy when somebody tries to speak Chinese to them. Of course, if the server in a Chinese restaurant isn't Chinese, that's another story.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:31 PM
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30. Well, my sis-in-law speaks fluent Vietnamese and decent Japanese
so if I'm out with my brother's family, we've got a good portion of middle asian languages covered.

Actually I only know about 5 words in Chinese. And only 4 of them are things I'd say in public. :P I'd have to invite my half-sister who lives on the other side of the country along to get decent Mandarin. She isn't fluent, but she learned enough to get by.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 09:50 AM
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22. If you have to know only one Spanish word...
"gracias" is much better than "chocho."
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 10:02 AM
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24. No.
It's douchey to act like they were acting... but saying gracias is not douchey, even if you know no other Spanish. IMO.
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:25 PM
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25. If it is, I am in trouble.
At the hole in the wall where I get burritos, the guys who cook the food don't speak English. I always shoot them a smile and a "gracias" after the guy at the counter hands me my food. :shrug:
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:27 PM
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26. If I were in a Japanese restaurant, I would speak to the server in Japanese...
but it may be one of the many Japanese restaurants in the U.S. that is actually run by Koreans or Taiwanese, so if I got a blank look in return, I'd speak English.

If you speak Spanish well and you know that the server is FROM Mexico, as opposed to 4th-generation Latino who maybe speaks less Spanish than you do, by all means speak Spanish.

But to just just use gracias over and over does sound dorky. It reminds me of the people in Japan who think they're so clever because they've walked up to me and said the first sentence from their junior high school English textbook. (For a long time, it was
"This is a pen," or, as pronounced by a Japanese person who has forgotten everything but that sentence: "Jee-shee-za-pen.")
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:16 PM
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28. It's not douchey to say "gracias"
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 01:18 PM by KamaAina
it is douchey to keep bugging the server. Methinks the douches were after more than just improving their conversational español, if you receive my drift.

edit: spelling

re-edit: copied tilde from KW; plus, it is extremely douchey to assume that the Spanish-speaker will actually be impressed by your saying "gracias." Besides, "mucha gracia" is more idiomatic, anyway. :P
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:34 PM
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32. Depends on the person and how it's used (this is the standard answer to everything).
Some people make it sound condescending, some clueless, and some like a genuine demonstration of respect. Sometimes it depends on whether the server speaks English, too. If they are speaking unaccented or barely accented English, it strikes me as an insult. If they speak no English or little English, it seems like a respectful attempt to communicate.
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Mollis Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:39 PM
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34. Usually, unless you know them.
My family frequently goes to a local Mexican restaurant...like 2 times a week at least. We know them by name, they know us by name. I'm pretty sure they don't mind when my family says it.

But by your description of what they were doing...then yes. Very douche-y.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:18 PM
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35. It's douchey to harass the waitstaff
Which is what it sounds like was going on here.
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