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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 12:52 AM
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Dating Tips--Good or Bad
Post em!

I had a German friend who made it a total policy to never, ever pay for a girl. Now, if something developed, he's consider paying, but he wouldn't take a potential date out for dinner and pay for both of them. Wouldn't buy two tickets or pay for both coffees.

I used to make fun of him for this, but I'm starting to think that made a lot of sense. I never got anything for paying, except for a meal that cost me twice as much as I should have payed. Rather, what would have happened would have happened whether I paid or not.
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furrylitldevil Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 01:00 AM
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1. Here's a tip
Don't.
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 01:03 AM
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2. Never pay for someone on the first date.


It shouldn't be a long date anyway.

Ugh...dating sucks.
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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 01:03 AM
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3. Depends on who's inviting whom out to dinner
If you ask a woman out, she may assume you mean to pay. If I ask someone to dinner, I always say, "I'm payin," or "I can't pay for 2 dinners, but I'll buy the dessert," or "How 'bout we go dutch this time." I know it's awkward, but it's better than having someone assume I'm paying and me feeling resentful for it. Or for emptying my account before the week is up.

A "policy" doesn't leave much room for flexibility. I find that most of my friends are like I am about who pays for what; i.e., we always try to clarify up front.

(Boring answer, but it seems to work for me.)

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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 01:07 AM
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4. I hate dating
Too many trumped up rules. I would rather be spontaneous and open about it. I shouldn't have to always decide where to go. I'm not a mind reader. Discussing the terms of the date is a much better way to go, IMO.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 01:11 AM
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5. The problem with dating tips....
is that people abide by these odd, self made rules and attempt to apply them with every person in every situation. It doesn't make sense to me.
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ALago1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 01:12 AM
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6. Pre-Dating tip...
Edited on Mon Mar-08-04 01:16 AM by ALago1
Before I entered my present relationship, it had always been my policy to never under any circumstances by drinks for a girl at a bar.

I think this is sound advice. I have seen many friends get burned by women after spending hard earned cash buying them drinks all night.

The fact is, some women will take advantage of a guy in the form of getting free drinks if they perceive that he is very attracted to her and is interested in getting to know her more, even if she does not have mutual feelings for him.

Thus, I don't pay for drinks as a way of insuring that the lady is spending her time with me because she has some interest in me, not my potential to get her drunk...

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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 01:14 AM
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7. How about buying girls REALLY BAD drinks?
Popov and milk, that sort of thing :)
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ALago1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 01:18 AM
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10. Now there's an idea!
"Barkeep, give me one round of everclear and tequila please..."
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 01:19 AM
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Bartender, boil me a pint of Pabst for the lady!
Edited on Mon Mar-08-04 01:20 AM by WillyBrandt
And throw some lozenges in there too!
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 01:33 AM
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14. lol and a shot of pepto-bismol n/t
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furrylitldevil Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 01:14 AM
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8. Ever had a woman buy you drinks before?
I did, it was weird. I didn't know how to react to it, but the only reason she did was because she was three sheets to the wind before I even showed up.
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ALago1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 01:19 AM
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11. Nope, hasn't happened
I can imagine being weirded out by the whole affair.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 01:20 AM
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13. Yeah it happened to me too
I was kinda surprised by it also.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 01:15 AM
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9. I can't help myself I always pay
at least early in a relationship. The way I see it is that if I ask someone to dinner then I should pay.

The college life simplifies many of the more confusing aspects of dating. For example I've usually hooked up with a girl already before I ask them out.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 01:19 AM
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12. The Tao of dating--stop looking, and you immediately find someone
He who does not compete, has no competitors.

:o

:D
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chicagostudent Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 04:12 AM
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15. hmmm
It seems like the more you act like you are not interested in a girl, the more interested she is.

Don't take any sh*t from any girl, that would be my advice.

Have you noticed that when you are taken, girls seem to come around? Same idea as above.
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 06:06 AM
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16. Paying for a date and expecting "something" in return is crass.
*
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 07:16 AM
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17. gee, i enjoy buying a dinner, or a couple drinks
for an interesting, mature and attractive lady.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 11:07 AM
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18. But then...
if the woman expected you to pay (if you did the asking, for instance), there's that danger that you have really offended her.

In that case, there can BE no more than one date, because you annoyed her so heartily on the first. She'll never go out with you again, most likely.

If you want to go this route, I'd suggest really cultivating a love of coffee. It's not so bad to "meet someone for coffee."

Number 1, it's more of a Dutch type situation
Number 2, if you do end up paying, your bank account isn't out quite as much cash.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 11:11 AM
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19. Best Tip Ever: Be friends first and foremost...nothing romantic will work
long-term if that element is lacking from the relationship
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 11:14 AM
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20. Bad tips
1) Wait 3 days to call.

2) Never let them know you care.

3) If you haven't had sex by the 3rd date, it's going nowhere--end it.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 11:37 AM
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21. Depends on who invites who. Still valid even after 6 years.
If i invite her out to dinner, I pay. If she suggests we go to a movie, she pays, and if I suggest dinner first or after, I pay..
Been a workable policy for the 6 years we've been together.

Forget silly notions like "I payed for dinner and didn't get anything...".
If that's where it's at for you, get more bang for your buck and buy a blow-job and stop off for drive-through on your way back home..
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 11:47 AM
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22. My own $0.02
I think dating etiquette requires the asker to buy -- if it's a formal date.

If this is a problem, don't take your date to a 5-star french restaurant on your first date, unless you are dripping wads of cash.

I contend that when you first 'notice' somebody, you should ask him/her out, right then and there, to a fairly immediate, and informal, mini-date:

"Hey, I'm going for coffee; come with me!"

If s/he accepts, this is informal enough that I don't think the asker should presume to pay for the other; let the other person set the tone. It may very well be that by paying, the other person may jump to conclusions about what you expect.

Use this time to get to know the other person; ask them about themselves (everybody's favorite subject, don'tchya know?). You'll find out off the bat if they're available, first, and if there's any mutual interests that would attract you beyond looks or whatever superficial personality quirk made you notice to begin with.

If your mini-date (depending on how well it goes, and how much time you both have, it could last anywhere from 5 minutes to all afternoon) goes well, follow up immediately with a suggestion to meet for dinner. If the other person accepts, you should consider this a formal date, and offer to pay for the other person. (NOTE: I think it's gauche, and a little desperate-sounding to offer to pay while you're asking the other person out. Unless the other person brings up the topic first, just catch the check and pay it yourself as soon as you can; make sure the server knows to hand YOU the bill.)

If the other person INSISTS on paying for their share, don't push.

And now a tip for the person being asked on a formal date: As long as the date would be financially within your means comfortably, don't ask in advance who's paying. Always assume it is dutch, but give your date a discrete opportunity to pick up the bill first. Always order from the menu as if you are paying for your own meal. And finally, if you were asked out, you certainly are NOT responsible for the other person's bill; you may offer, if you feel you want to, but never allow your date to make you feel as if you should pay for both of you.

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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 11:49 AM
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23. Be a gentleman
Hold up doors, pay for us etc.

Do not talk about computer games, star trek, sex, or "guy" stuff
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