Shocked at my initial response to news of Ashcroft's pancreatitis

[Ladyhawk]

At first I actually thought, "Good! He deserves it!"

What the hell kind of attitude is that???? Is it wrong to rejoice when enemies suffer? If we were under a more oppressive regime, such as Pol Pot's Cambodia, would it be wrong to rejoice if Pol Pot became gravely ill? (I would have used Hitler, but that's been done to death and I don't want to seem cliche. :D)

Geez, I'm pissy. I'm angry about so many things, probably justifiably so. But I don't want to lose the big picture, or my soul, to seething fury. How angry is too angry?

[MercutioATC]

1. It's understandable, but yes, it's too angry.

I wish him something painful but not life-threatening...like kidney stones.

[thebigidea]

2. considering that he wants to put people like me in jail

not to mention probably wishes eternal torment on me, its fairly reasonable to expect a bit of rancor.

[Valerie5555]

3. and I possibly felt some antipathy towards him considering

how he considered a certain type of cat I had as a kid (calico) to be a "creature of Satan" or something.

[Newsjock]

4. In jail?

You have an exposed breast?

:)

[thebigidea]

5. don't say such words out loud, he's very sensitive

[corporatewhore]

6. Dont worry about it i am sure he will investigate the entire pediatricward

for terrists and commies he will have a fun time

[JohnKleeb]

7. he'll investigate me as a drunk

:)
I see another Kleeb poll, do I, do I :).

[xchrom]

8. mutuality

i feel about conservative born again types what they feel for me.
it doesn't make for a very pretty picture.

[JitterbugPerfume]

9. I don't want Johnny to suffer

to bad <smile>

[ComerPerro]

10. And now, Mr, Ashcroft

We first have to notify the government that you are here at our hospital, then we have to turn over all of your medical records to the FBI, as well as your perscription records at the pharmacy when you go to pick up your perscriptions, ...

Never know.
You might be a terrorist. We have to take these precautions.

[Festivito]

11. He needed to come down about ten notches or so.

Glad his god saw the light, and took the initiative, in creating the internal, removal of gall.

[thingfish]

12. He's not sick. They just said he's sick to get people to say "GOOD!"

...so they can quote it on Meet the Press next week to show how mean and crazy "the left" is these days.

(Tinfoil hat screwed on tight for that one)

[thingfish]

13. Wouldn't it be funny if the best treatment for pancrea-whatsis was WEED?!

Maybe if he smoked a little, he'd lighten up a lot.

[Bertha Venation]

14. I could answer your question, "how angry is too angry," but

no one wants to read the story of my first thirty years. ;)

[slinkerwink]

15. I do!

;-)

[Bertha Venation]

17. I was born as a child . . .

(nod to Bill Cosby)

Readers' Digest version: abusive parents & others; psychotic, suicidal, murderous first lover; years of self-loathing & thoughts of suicide; rescue by a goddess named Carol -- and here I am at 41, happy, whole & no longer totally oh-my-god-so-bloody-fucked-up.

How's that? ;)

[slinkerwink]

22. that's an amazing condensation of your life!

;-)

[DS1]

16. I see it a little differently

If he was stripped of medical benefits the day before coming down with this, then I'd laugh.

As for now, who cares?

[Deja Q]

18. Do unto others...

Look at how the repukes and freeps treat us. And they started it all as well.

Ashcroft is a vile man, eroding our rights and putting more people to go after brothels and covering up a statue's breast than going after real terrorists.

He doesn't look at the spirit of the law. He enforces his vision of the rule of law.

He's a fascist, I regret to say. But it's his actions that give him that epithet. Nobody else's.

He's getting what he deserves as far as I'm concerned.

[arwalden]

19. It *IS* Possible To Over-Analyze The Various Reactions...

No apologies from me. Personally, I hope the son of a bitch dies. So what? Big deal.

I despising him and wish bad things upon him. I take a sadistic glee in seeing him suffer. So sue me for not being politically correct.

-- Allen

P.S. I wonder... I really, really wonder... how many of the folks who publicly chastise the vengeful sadists are secretly enjoying the fact that Ashcroft is in pain. Yet... they choose to take the high-road for appearance's sake only.

I know, I know... not EVERYONE is like that. Most are genuinely distressed that ANYONE would take delight in his situation... but I suspect that there are just a few who couldn't help but smile just a little when they heard the news.

[Bat Boy]

20. Right there with you.

I was positively gleeful when I heard. Then, like you, I was struck by how nasty I sounded.

Then I realized that I was not reacting to a human being's suffering. I was having a joyful reaction to proof of karma. Now I feel fine about enjoying the idea of Ashcroft doubled over in pain. He's paying an overdue karmic debt. How can you not be happy that a small amount of balance has been restored to the cosmos?

It's a terrific rationalization, and I plan to use it again sometime.

[w4rma]

21. I didn't really care one way or another. He's only a puppet.

He's only a puppet doing what his handlers expected him to do when they put him in the position that he has. If he is unable to continue his job, he'll be replaced with someone just as bad, or maybe worse. I know it's hard to imagine how one could do a worse job than him, but imagine a version of Ashcroft with more tact and less honesty.

The folks with the real power are never on TV and are called billionares. The billionares who are supporting the Republican Party are the handlers, imho.

[joeybee12]

23. Your initial response was the correct one..

...I was raised that all men are equal, inherently good, children of God, blah, blah, blah.

Fact is, there are many people on this earth who do more harm than good towards their fellow man. Ass-croft is one of them. I won't be a hypocrite and say he shouldn't suffer, when I believe he truly does deserve it.

[mhr]

24. If It Is Pancreatic Cancer, He Is A Goner - This Is Always Fatal

eom

[jor_mama]

25. I'm not a very angry person ...

... but I've never seen anything wrong with wishing someone dead, as long as you don't do anything to facilitate it. It's not like you're wishing something upon them that isn't going to happen. Unless your name is Elijah or Enoch, you are going to die. You're just wishing for a timetable different from what is likely to occur.

Wishing specific pains or sicknesses on someone is different. But death -- we're all going there.

[smirkymonkey]

26. I couldn't care less about what happens to him

...I really don't. I just want him out of office. Whatever happens to him on a personal level means nothing to me.

[dorktv]

27. I was more along the lines of "See, now stop pissing God off"

[shimmergal]

28. Admittedly, my first reaction was a lot like Ladyhawk's.

But then I too had second thoughts. Getting satisfaction from anybody's pain and physical suffering isn't the direction I want to go.

I can hope, however, that Ashcroft has a near-death or other kind of sickbed experience that turns him into a better and less judgmental person.

[TheMightyFavog]

29. Nothing wron with seeing someone who deserves it

going on a bad Karma trip.

[Zomby Woof]

30. if he resigns

That is victory enough, for everything else is superfluous, and wishing harm lowers us to his level. How can we say we are better than our enemies if we act like them?

I see plenty of that on DU, with hateful people spreading lies and innuendo about others, becoming what they claim to deplore in others.

I loathe Ashcroft with all my being, but the worst thing that should befall him is tendering his resignation, and preventing another like him from becoming the Attorney General ever again.

[name not needed]

31. I truly want to feel sorry for him

But he isn't worthy of anyone's sympathy. I think this is what he truly deserves.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

32. I can find sympathy for Ashcroft, he is only doing the bidding of

higerups.
PolPot was a completly different animal. And his painful death, even if not in prison, was not nearly painful enough to prepare him for his eternity, I am sure.
He has millions waiting for his ass.

[put out]

33. Yes, it is wrong. Let's hold hands and go there together.

Dear me, friend, my first thought was

All that clean living, and where does it get you? Eat a perfectly healthy diet, never let a drop of alcohol touch your lips, cover every visible breast, cleanse your imagination of every licentious thought. Pray a lot and use subtle pressure to have your employees participate, and contribute Crisco to all those willing to be so anointed.

And still it gets you the diseases and disorders of the degenerate citizens.

We won't even talk about personality disorders our Chief Law Enforcer may suffer from. There just is not enough Crisco in the world.

[neebob]

34. I had a similar reaction, including the shock,

and quickly checked my karma.

[Elidor]

35. Fuck the old bastard.

I'd dance a jig if he dropped dead, and wouldn't feel the slightest guilt over my schadenfreude. I'd pee on his grave if it wasn't a felony. He has done absolutely nothing to deserve the slightest whit of sympathy from me.

[Arugula Latte]

36. I hope someone puts a calico cat on his hospital bed

He'll freak and rupture a spleen, or something ...

God, what an insane zealot he is.