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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 07:27 PM
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Would you live in a gated community?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 07:29 PM
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1. I'd rather not...
We're looking at houses in Swim and Tennis communities now (not gated, but close.)

And the Home Owners Association covenants are so strict you can't burp in your front yard without permission.

We've almost decided to buy land and wait another year and build on it.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 01:26 PM
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32. There's an X Files episode where Mulder and Scully
move into a gated community to investigate some mysterious disappearances. Seems the man who oversees the community regulations takes out those who challenge the rules.

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 01:58 PM
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34. Actually, it's his pet Tulku (Tibetan demon?) that kills rule-breakers.
It's one of my favorite episodes. Mulder in a pink Izod shirt! Mulder using a pink flamingo as his symbol of rebellion.

Darn, after the show's last season or 2, it's great to remember just how good X-files could be.

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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 07:32 PM
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2. I wouldn't live in a metropolitan area that has gated communities.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 07:32 PM
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3. That would be kind of drafty, wouldn't it?
Give me good ol' walls and windows anyday!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 07:34 PM
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4. I hate the very idea
It's the affluent withdrawing in snobbishness and exaggerated fear from their fellow human beings. It's the one of the most elite phenomena I can think of.

What's next? Guards with boiling oil to keep the peasants out?

Imagine what it does to children to be brought up in a compound like that: everyone who is Not Our Kind of People is to be feared and despised.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 04:57 AM
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15. Whenever I hear the phrase "master plan community"
I think "yeah.. master race community."

Just expensive enough to keep "the undesireables" out. :eyes:
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 11:04 AM
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30. or "restricted development"
I remember when "restricted" meant "No Jews Allowed". :mad:

Weird. My Jewish former in-laws bought a condo in a "restricted development", and saw nothing ironic about it.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 07:35 PM
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5. "Autocratic Institutions". I will NOT be told how to live my life.
If a porch light goes out, you better fix it or you'll get fined.

:puke:
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 07:40 PM
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6. No
Gated communities are unamerican.
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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 07:44 PM
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7. Yes
I live in a gated community. I like it.

Not much traffic on the streets, no Jehovah's witnesses knocking on the door, people can't leave crap laying around in their front yards/driveways, etc. etc.

It's a lot less restrictive, expensive, and contentious than a condo association.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 07:54 PM
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8. Yes, we're thinking about it here in Vegas.
Edited on Sat Mar-06-04 07:57 PM by stopbush
We currently live in an ungated community, right near a turn-in from a semi-busy street. The assholes around here NEVER slow down when they come in. There are children playing up and down the street all day long, but these drivers - who live here, BTW! - can't seem to keep it under 40 mph when presented with 200 feet of straight away. Believe it or not, the dickweed down the street ran over his own kid's foot with his Hummer last fall! Jee-bus, what idiots!

The other problem is the garbage and littering. We have a McD's about 3/4 of a mile in one direction and a Jack-in-the-box 1/2 mile in the other direction. That semi-busy street I mentioned is a virtual garbage dump (though the city cleans it all up just about every day) with kids tossing shit from their cars all day and all night. I just don't get it.

The move to a gated community - where the exact same house may cost you only another $5,000 - is a real option here. It's not a perfect solution, but it's no snob hill either. At least you lose the garbage and the speeding assholes (it's hard to speed into a gated community when you need to stop at the gate and maybe say hello to a security person).
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 08:04 PM
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12. No JW's???
Well maybe that's not such a bad idea!
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 07:55 PM
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9. The would legislate how I would have to dress in my own home!
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 08:00 PM
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10. I already do!
I have a farm gate at the end of my driveway so the cows don't wander off. I have a private security force as well. Angel, Buddy, PD and the three pups patrol my property to keep me safe from the deer, turkey and rabbits that might ruin my garden. Farm life is good!
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 05:00 AM
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16. That sounds GOOD!
I can't wait!

My dad's an architect, and he's designing a stone building for me and my partner; we're gonna live on some wooded acreage north of Lake Pontchartrain in Louisiana.. about an hour north of New Orleans. It'll be totally solar, complete with well and satellite TV. The only kind of connection I'll need to the outside world will be some sort of an internet connection. Good times, indeed!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 08:03 PM
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11. No.
A friend of mine lived in a nice condo complex in Daly City (just over the SF city line) and it was a pain in the ass. You have to either have a code or call when you went to visit.

I used to ride my scooter from the city to visit and the "guards" used to act like I Osama when I got to THE GATE.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 04:43 AM
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13. A gated community is a
really good place to be if you travel a lot, you don't have to worry so much about what could happen to your home while you are gone. :thumbsup: I don't live in one but if I can ever find the time to travel I would really consider it.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 04:56 AM
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14. No, no, a thousand times no.
I hate having neighbors. The noise, the bother, having to look at whatever may be on their front lawns, etc.
And I hate homeowner associations, which are invariably tied to living in these communities.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 05:14 AM
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17. Well shit, why don't I travel back in time to 1930's germany.
But maybe I'd live in a gated community if it was designed to keep out SUV driving, overpaid, snobbish WASPs.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 06:11 AM
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18. Ironically, I kinda sorta do now...
All faculty and most students live here on campus. We have quite good security (including gates).

However, for me, it's an added level of comfort living in the ME like we do.

Most places in the U.S., it is just PARANOIA.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 08:21 AM
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19. I refuse to live in any community that would let people like me live there
(Ah, the spirit of Groucho is strong in this one... ;-) )
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 08:33 AM
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20. I am soon moving to a "gated" Apartment Complex
But not a expensive one, really cheap they include electric in their rent.

I have had my car broke into, and it is a major problem with apartment complexes in my area.

Maybe the "gate" will not stop all car brake ins but...
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 08:46 AM
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21. I don't now; my sister and her family are
Edited on Sun Mar-07-04 08:47 AM by supernova
building a house in Raleigh's largest gated community. God it's huge! Several swimming pools, golf course, several tennis clubs, there's just no end to this place. It also comes with it's own attached strip mall with BJs and Wallyworld included.

To be fair it is a mixture of housing types. There's everything from McMansions to townhouses.

But the by-laws in that place or ferocious, all the way down to not leaving your kid's toys in the front yard overnight. :crazy:

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RoadRunner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 08:55 AM
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22. RoadRunner says ...
it's not where you live, it's how you live. If you live your days in awareness and compassion (not the phony GWB kind of compassion), then you can be quite happy anywhere. Even in a gated community.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 09:03 AM
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23. I have, in a way -- a condo building. Wouldn't again.
The security was a joke, what with most of the residents letting in all kinds of rabble (for most of the condos were used as rentals). But for where the building was located, I felt safer than I would've with zero security measures.

Now I live in the country (although suburban city-escape creep is beginning to encroach) and never want to live any other way.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 10:13 AM
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25. Plus you know have room for MORE cats!
<Don't tell Mrs. V I suggested it!>
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 11:01 AM
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29. LOL As if you could plant an idea
that wasn't already in my mind. :7 I ask her about once a week if she needs a kitten. Strange; she always says no. :shrug:
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 09:49 AM
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24. No. No Escape when the mob comes...
Does a gated community REALLY offer security? Some old semi-retired fat guy at the gate armed with a clipboard and "Expected Guest list"? sporadic "patrols" (probably more intent on finding violations of the "Door Swag Covenant" than crime)?

Roust 'em out and herd 'em against the fence in the back corner....

I think gated communities only send the message "Dig *US*! We're RICH! and we want to be insulated from the smelly rabble while we agonize that our neighbour's H-2 is 3 weeks newer than ours..."
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 10:37 AM
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26. I can't imagine I'd be welcome...
:shrug:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 10:40 AM
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27. Yeah, Sure
I've always wanted to experience medieval life in a modern setting.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 10:47 AM
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28. Gated, no. MOATED, yes! nt
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 12:14 PM
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31. I did for a brief time and here is what happened.
It was the ONLY time my home and car were broken into in my entire 45 years on the planet.
They had this thing called a homeowner's association...mostly made up of the kind of people that would peep into your home if they had the opportunity. These were people who DID NOT observe who broke into your home or car, but QUICKLY observed if you parked in your roomate's spot rather than the spot that was on your parking pass and cited you.

It was 4 years of sheer hell.

I will always and forever do my best never to live where there are gates or a homeowners association ever again.

I'd rather pour gas all over my body and light it on fire. :D
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dawn Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 01:45 PM
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33. I already do. All apartment communities around here are gated.
It's Irvine, what do ya expect?

But the gate is usually always open. I don't really see the point. It's probably just there to help justify the high rents.

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