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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:19 PM
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What killed the dinosaurs? Well, the Great Flood, of course!
Someone at work said that today.

I did not say anything--I mean, where to begin??????
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:20 PM
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1. Yeah, them and the unicorns.
Jeeeez.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:20 PM
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2. For the last time they're called Jesus Horses!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:21 PM
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3. It's Jehosaphat Horses!
Did you see the thread about the plural Jesus?
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:22 PM
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4. But "horse" was plural, not "Jesus," therefore, I stand by my spelling!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:24 PM
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6. No, you're still wrong....
...it says so in the Bible.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:24 PM
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7. Not my Bible. Lord Rick says nothing about that!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:28 PM
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10. Oh, Blasphemy!
I love it!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:23 PM
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5. No.
Hubby and I go round and round because I don't believe that the races of mankind all came from Noah's three sons. :eyes:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:26 PM
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8. So when your fundie "debaters" say that to show you the Bible is true,
you can tell 'em that THAT excuse ALSO proves teh Bible isn't 100% inerrant, because then it means that there were some land-based animals that Noah DIDN'T put aboard the ark.

So either way the fundies are wrong.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:30 PM
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13. Yeah, and he didn't put the dinsoaurs on the ark either....
...part of her response to that was that they were too big.

But if you consider the BILLIONS of species on earth now, then he couldn't have built an ark big enough even for all them WITHOUT the dinosaurs.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:33 PM
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16. LOL!
But the Bible doesn't say anything like "except the really big animals".

The gyrations these people go through for something that actually has no real faith-value is astounding. if they're faith really hinges on dinosaurs and people living at the same time because the earth is only 5700 years old, then they really have some major issues and don't understand God or Jesus at all. Not that any of us do, really, but they're way behind the rest of us. :-)
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:43 PM
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24. Yeah, I can't understand how some people have to take the
Bible literally in order to believe in God.

Anyone ever hear of parables or fables, made-up stories to make a point?

Anyway, there probably was some sort of flood--simply because every ancient religion has some sort of flood tale. There was an interesting NOVA special or National geographic special about how apparently the Mediterranean rose greatly at one point and rushed into the Black Sea, thus killing a great many people who lived by the banks there. That would explain why the Flood is told in so many religions. Of course, Noah and all that crap....
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:27 PM
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9. Noah sucked, then
why didn't he save them? :shrug:

then there are all of those prehistoric mammals, too. God picked quite a slacker to save the world for him, didn't he?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:28 PM
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11. Someone did ask that, and her response was, "Don't you think that
there are dinsosaurs on earth now?"
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:42 PM
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23. There are, kind of...
Turtles were around back then. They're kind of dinosaur-ish.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:30 PM
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14. Maybe they were Satan's pets?
I mean, they're all scaly and pointed-tailed, with hooves and claws.

Maybe God told Noah to kill Satan's pet lizards.


Do you think Mother Nature is God's wife? That would make sense, wouldn't it?
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:29 PM
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12. It was an asteroid impact, not some stupid flood.
Logic completely escapes these people.
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absyntheNsugar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:31 PM
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15. "Now that's 'Earth Logic', remember there's 'God's Logic"
That's the answer they would give me when I questioned creationism in fundy school. Well, after the paddlings of course.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:34 PM
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17. Technically
A large % of them probably did die in a "Flood". 8000 meter tsunamis tend to do that.


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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:35 PM
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18. According to the latest in Creation science, they were on the Ark.
It's just that they were later hunted to extinction.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:45 PM
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26. Maybe they fell overboard in a particularly nasty storm?
Maybe they tried to save some Unicorns that were swept out to sea, then drowned.

Ever hear of a swimming Dinosaur? Huh? Huh?
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banana republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:35 PM
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19. What about the Whales????
Why weren't they on the ark????
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:40 PM
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22. Sea animals don't count
And here I have to give the fundies the benefit of the doubt, becuase no mention is made at all of water creatures. Which makes sense, if you think about it - the world wqas being flooded, not dehydrated, so for animals that in the water, THEIR habitat was being increased.

So, whales just hang out and laugh along with the elephants and giraffes at the brontosauruses as they slowly get covered with water ans suffocate. Maybe the joke-loving humpback whales kept diving down under the water, just to poke into the dinosaurs and say silly things like "Wet enough for you?"
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:38 PM
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20. Hey, the Great Flood DID kill many of the dinosaurs!
A not very oft discussed aspect of the Chicxulub impact: The asteroid struck WATER. Aside from the wall of flame that stretched across North and South America's, Europe and North/West Africa were decimated as well by the wave kicked up by the force of the explosion. There hasn't been a huge amount of research done yet, but I've seen estimates putting the wave height at one to two MILES when it slammed into the eastern Atlantic shore. That's one great flood :)
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:39 PM
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21. Satan's (Mark Twain) Letter from the Earth telling what happened to 'em.
(From Twain's Letters From the Earth http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/twainlfe.htm )

Noah began to collect animals. There was to be one couple of each and every sort of creature that walked or crawled, or swam or flew, in the world of animated nature. We have to guess at how long it took to collect the creatures and how much it cost, for there is no record of these details. When Symmachus made preparation to introduce his young son to grown-up life in imperial Rome, he sent men to Asia, Africa and everywhere to collect wild animals for the arena-fights. It took the men three years to accumulate the animals and fetch them to Rome. Merely quadrupeds and alligators, you understand -- no birds, no snakes, no frogs, no worms, no lice, no rats, no fleas, no ticks, no caterpillars, no spiders, no houseflies, no mosquitoes -- nothing but just plain simple quadrupeds and alligators: and no quadrupeds except fighting ones. Yet it was as I have said: it took three years to collect them, and the cost of animals and transportation and the men's wages footed up $4,500,000.

How many animals? We do not know. But it was under five thousand, for that was the largest number ever gathered for those Roman shows, and it was Titus, not Symmachus, who made that collection. Those were mere baby museums, compared to Noah's contract. Of birds and beasts and fresh-water creatures he had to collect 146,000 kinds; and of insects upwards of two million species.

Thousands and thousands of those things are very difficult to catch, and if Noah had not given up and resigned, he would be on the job yet, as Leviticus used to say. However, I do not mean that he withdrew. No, he did not do that. He gathered as many creatures as he had room for, and then stopped.

If he had known all the requirements in the beginning, he would have been aware that what was needed was a fleet of Arks. But he did not know how many kinds of creatures there were, neither did his Chief. So he had no Kangaroo, and no 'possom, and no Gila monster, and no ornithorhynchus, and lacked a multitude of other indispensable blessings which a loving Creator had provided for man and forgotten about, they having long ago wandered to a side of this world which he had never seen and with whose affairs he was not acquainted. And so everyone of them came within a hair of getting drowned.

They only escaped by an accident. There was not water enough to go around. Only enough was provided to flood one small corner of the globe -- the rest of the globe was not then known, and was supposed to be nonexistent.

However, the thing that really and finally and definitely determined Noah to stop with enough species for purely business purposes and let the rest become extinct, was an incident of the last days: an excited stranger arrived with some most alarming news. He said he had been camping among some mountains and valleys about six hundred miles away, and he had seen a wonderful thing there: he stood upon a precipice overlooking a wide valley, and up the valley he was a billowy black sea of strange animal life coming. Presently the creatures passed by, struggling, fighting, scrambling, screeching, snorting -- horrible vast masses of tumultuous flesh! Sloths as big as an elephant; frogs as big as a cow; a megatherium and his harem huge beyond belief; saurians and saurians and saurians, group after group, family after family, species after species -- a hundred feet long, thirty feet high, and twice as quarrelsome; one of them hit a perfectly blameless Durham bull a thump with its tail and sent it whizzing three hundred feet into the air and it fell at the man's feet with a sigh and was no more. The man said that these prodigious animals had heard about the Ark and were coming. Coming to get saved from the flood. And not coming in pairs, they were all coming: they did not know the passengers were restricted to pairs, the man said, and wouldn't care a rap for the regulations, anyway -- they would sail in that Ark or know the reason why. The man said the Ark would not hold the half of them; and moreover they were coming hungry, and would eat up everything there was, including the menagerie and the family.

All these facts were suppressed, in the Biblical account. You find not a hint of them there. The whole thing is hushed up. Not even the names of those vast creatures are mentioned. It shows you that when people have left a reproachful vacancy in a contract they can be as shady about it in Bibles as elsewhere. Those powerful animals would be of inestimable value to man now, when transportation is so hard pressed and expensive, but they are all lost to him. All lost, and by Noah's fault. They all got drowned. Some of them as much as eight million years ago.

Very well, the stranger told his tale, and Noah saw that he must get away before the monsters arrived. He would have sailed at once, but the upholsterers and decorators of the housefly's drawing room still had some finishing touches to put on, and that lost him a day. Another day was lost in getting the flies aboard, there being sixty-eight billions of them and the Deity still afraid there might not be enough. Another day was lost in stowing forty tons of selected filth for the flies' sustenance.

Then at last, Noah sailed; and none too soon, for the Ark was only just sinking out of sight on the horizon when the monsters arrived, and added their lamentations to those of the multitude of weeping fathers and mothers and frightened little children who were clinging to the wave-washed rocks in the pouring rain and lifting imploring prayers to an All-Just and All-Forgiving and All-Pitying Being who had never answered a prayer since those crags were builded, grain by grain, out of the sands, and would still not have answered one when the ages should have crumbled them to sand again.

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:44 PM
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25. Was that on day 6 (or the week after)?
:evilgrin:
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:58 PM
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27. Heathen! You mean you don't know?????????????
For shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 08:00 PM
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28. there's a great Bill Hick's routine on this...
where his fundie friend says dinosaurs didn't exist. Bill asks what about all the fossil eveidence and the guy says it's a test of faith.

Bill says "Does anybody else have a problem with the idea that God's f***in' with our minds? :wtf:
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 08:10 PM
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29. Pretty funny!
He's been fucking with my mind for quite some time!
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