Baseball Fans: Then and now pictures of Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi

[Sandpiper]

Got 'Roids?


Barry Bonds Then (1987)




Barry Bonds Now




Jason Giambi Then (1991)




Jason Giambi now

[felonious thunk]

1. To be fair

I look quite a bit more bulky than I did when I was 22 also. I don't think these pictures really tell us anything. They could have put that bulk on legitimately.

[Cloud]

2. True

When I graduated high school 2 years ago I weighed 130 pounds. Now after 2 years of lifting weights and eating a lot I am now about 175 pounds.

We will never know until Baseball starts drug testing.

[Sandpiper]

3. Honestly

Of the two of them, I'm a lot more suspicious of Barry, who at age 37, suddenly became a far more productive hitter than he had ever been before.

But, 'roids or no, he's still a hall of famer.

[bhunt70]

4. the most ridiculous was mark mcguire.

[frylock]

5. i like van slyke's take on bones..

Van Slyke: I think it is going to be very difficult. Even before Barry was taking steroids, or allegedly was taking steroids when I played with him, I weighed more than him and yet he was still a tremendous player. He still had good power and he was an MVP.

The physical facts are the physical facts and when you're thirty-six, seven, and eight years old is not when you peak with your home run production. You're supposed to do that when you're twenty-six, seven and twenty-eight years old. Not only that, you're not supposed to smash the home run record or smash your own personal record at that age.

If it's coming, I think it's probably due, just like anything else in Barry Bond's past. If it's bad press, it's usually his responsibility.

Ballou: Are you telling us, in your opinion, that it looks like Barry Bonds has taken steroids?

Van Slyke: Unequivocally he's taken them, without equivocation he's taken them. I can say that with utmost certainty.

Now, I never saw him put it into his body, but look, Barry went to the bank with the robber, he drove the car, he got money in his pocket from the bag that came out of the bank. Come to your own conclusion. Did he spend the money?

You decide. I think he did.

The physical evidence is there. People do not gain thirty-five pounds of muscle in their late thirties without a little bit of help.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4440128/

[underpants]

6. Giambi has to get testosterone shots every week (according to SI)

He did so many steroids in the minors and early in his MLB career that well....he needs the testosterone to uh "perform".