Why is everyone so excited over the new Star Trek movie?

[Symarip]

Did they name it 'The One That Doesn't Suck' or something?

[DarkTirade]

1. Not from what I've seen of the trailers so far...

:P

[Parche]

3. yeah, looks like star trek the high school musical

everyone looks young

[DarkTirade]

4. Young, or not like themselves at all.

Hey, let's place a random asian in the role of the japanese man. Nobody'll notice the difference, honest!

[Parche]

8. I have to say

The new chekov looks hot

[DarkTirade]

16. Doesn't compare to the original Sulu...

[MarthaMyDear]

21. Wow! Sulu Rocks! :)

...always amazes me that Star Trek was so "before-their-time" about having racial diversity on TV.

Nice pic of Sulu/Uhuru! :)

[Deja Q]

29. From "The Naked Time" (1966)...

Back when supporting characters had some dialogue and background.

Sulu liked botany and fencing; the latter you see here.

When "The Naked Now" was made in 1987 for the Next (and amazingly not last) Generation, the producers ditched the original story's intent of fleshing out characters' feelings, personal demons, motivations, et cetera, and instead relying on everyone engaging in drunken sexuality to keep the 45 minutes going. Which only goes to show why season 1 of TNG will never be fondly remembered...

"The Naked Time" is one of my favorites.

Of course, show it to anyone under 25 and they'll laugh it off as looking cheap, its "slow" pacing*, or make some snide comments about the people within; forgetting the time it was made and WHY stories were made. And the REAL risks that were taken.

Today's TV, HDTV, should be called ADHDTV as far as I'm concerned...

[XemaSab]

31. Sulu liked botany?

That should have been our first clue. :hide:

[Deja Q]

39. !

:wow:

:rofl:

I dig botany too, though I thought nothing of it then - or now for that matter.

Botany is a form of science; though what compelled Sulu to become a navigator was never explained...

[DarkTirade]

41. Skills and interests don't always coincide.

Maybe that was just the best way he thought he could get out in the galaxy and discover strange new life forms. :)

[Deja Q]

44. Logical.

:D

[Dr. Strange]

56. Khan Singh's ship was called the Botany Bay.

Make of it what you will.

[DarkTirade]

34. I actually saw the TNG episode before I saw the original...

and other than Data getting intoxicated, which was hilarious, the episode was rather boring.

The original, the one I saw several years later? (*&$ing awesome. :)

[crispini]

22. Star Trek 90210! Everybody is young and hawt!

:eyes:

[Deja Q]

30. And the white ones will get the most time to emo around!

:crazy:

[Deja Q]

24. Young, firm, and near-perfect plastic mannequins. Stereotypes indeed for

our modern "culture".

[redqueen]

2. Because hope dies last?

:shrug:

[Inchworm]

5. *yoink*

I'm stealing that line. It will get a lot of play :)

:thumbsup:

[mopinko]

20. she stole it. from a very good writer.

studs i probably not the first to say it, but......



http://www.amazon.com/Hope-Dies-Last-Keeping-Difficult/dp/1565848373

[Inchworm]

51. :)

You musta missed my religious epiphany. I had it with my daughter last week :D

:thumbsup:

[mopinko]

57. i just don't spend enough time in the lounge, i guess.

i miss all the good stuff. link?

[Danger Mouse]

6. Because getting kicked in the groin five times wasn't enough for trekkies.

They need a few more good solid kicks in the junk before they learn.

[Symarip]

7. Wouldn't that be 11 times?

Or am I missing something?

[Bake]

9. No, some of them didn't suck.

Mostly "The Search for God" or whatever that awful thing was. ST IV, I think.

Bake

[Symarip]

10. I agree

To disagree :)

[Bake]

11. In case I wasn't clear, ST IV (search for god, whatever) DID suck.

It was probably the worst of the series.

Bake

[DarkTirade]

17. That's V, not IV. IV was the one with the whales. Y'know, the funny one.

"He did a little too much LDS in the 60s."

"Captain, would this be an appropriate time for a colorful metaphor?"

[Bake]

60. I loved the one with the whales.

The one about finding God ... not so much.

Bake

[arcadian]

43. The "Save the Whales" one was alright

They at least, you know, save some whales. And Checkov says "nuclear", you know cuz immigrants are funny.

[Danger Mouse]

27. The sucky ones were numbers 1, 5, 9, 10, and sometimes 3.

:P

[Deja Q]

45. No no no no no! The sucky ones are 1, 5, 8, 10 and sometimes 4 and 7.

Sorry, but "First Contact" is so much pedantic fanwank that while they're having their party, they're not inviting anyone else in.

Which is okay for those who are really into the franchise, but "Generations" and "Insurrection" had a more intellectual feel. Neither was perfect either and, let's face it, "Insurrection" was preachy and had a cornball of a copout ending, but they tried to do and be more than "the borg are coming! big space ships! assimilation! plot holes galore!! cameos from half the cast of Voyager! time travel to an era nobody give a rat's keyster about!"

I'd rather pretend "Nemesis" was never made... just bad. Very bad. John Logan bad... wait, he made the bloody thing so it can't be John Logan John Logan bad... can't it?

[LanternWaste]

59. 11 times plus a brazilliion bad TV knock-off series...

11 times plus a brazilliion bad TV knock-off series...

I think, all other things being equal that Roddenberry should have simply stopped in the 60's. Everything after that were nothing more than prime time soap operas set on space ships with ray guns to satisfy the fan-boys.

Heck, even the cheesy cartoon was better than what came after it...


:hide:

[Fire Walk With Me]

12. Everyone has forgotten that the odd-numbered films suck.

:hide:

[Symarip]

14. Couple that

With the fact that the even one's are the opposite of good.

[DarkTirade]

18. I don't think it's that the odd ones sucked... I think it's that the even numbered ones were good

and the rest sucked.

The reason for doing it backwards like that? Because the Next Gen ones mostly sucked. And that's when they stopped numbering them. :P

[harmonicon]

13. I'm dreading it

It's going to suck.

[Rabrrrrrr]

15. Because they're fools who think JJ Abrams knows how to make a movie

and how not to utterly fucking kill a story.


I would be excited about the movie if they had someone who knew what they were doing at the helm.

[InvisibleTouch]

19. Because it's been too long since the last one, and we're deprived.

Hey, I'm looking forward to it. Willing to give it a chance, anyway.

[Symarip]

32. Deprived?

Are you shitting me? ELEVEN movies and what seems like just as many television series. I'm surprised Star Trek fan clubs haven't been approved for tax exempt status.

[DarkTirade]

36. Depraved maybe?

:P

[Deja Q]

46. Proof of that affect: (Rated R, but that's not going to stop anyone anyway)

[DarkTirade]

52. Mmmm... naked T'Pol...

... I'll be in my bunk.

[MilesColtrane]

54. T'Schwing!!

[InvisibleTouch]

37. Hey, to each their own. n/t

[AlCzervik]

23. i'm looking forward to Milk and Frost/Nixon.

even though Ron Howard directed Frost/Nixon, i'm hopeful.

Star Trek i will see, i'll probably hate myself afterward but maybe i'll be surprised and it won't suck, a girl can dream.

[MarthaMyDear]

25. Won't Simon Pegg save the film? I've tried to avoid ANY news...

...about the new ST movie, but know that Simon Pegg is Scotty...

...can't he save it? I hope so! :)

A whole movie built around the Engineering section? Woot!

[DarkTirade]

35. I like Pegg, but I think how good he'll be will depend entirely on the script and directing.

Hell, Natalie Portman is a good actress, but look at her performance in the Star Wars prequels.

[Deja Q]

38. Or at least the script

Once the warm fuzzy feeling of the direction and visuals wear off, all that's left is the script.

[DarkTirade]

40. Unfortunately the best directing and acting and visuals can't save a crappy script

as was evidenced by Superman Returns. Beautiful visuals. Pretty good actors. Pretty good director. Craptastic script. Snooze.

[mcctatas]

26. I for one am not excited about it...

but I am not a geek :evilgrin:

[MarthaMyDear]

28. But I, proudly AM!

:evilgrin:

Definitely more excited with new Star Trek than new Bond film.

Come on, Star Trek movie!

[Deja Q]

33. Given the state of modern media...

Only geeks would be turned off.

Today's media does tongue-in-cheek campness, simplistic plots that can't follow their own logic, uber-emo content because emotions sell, and a whip-zip amphetamine-addict "pace" to help make up for the lack of thinking that would otherwise be required.

Older television may not look as posh, but it's got the substance today's toddler fodder lacks and so desperately needs.

[Generic Brad]

42. We're excited because it's "Star Trek"

Freaking "Star Trek"!

[DarkTirade]

47. ... at least we Star Wars geeks realized it was all over after two shitty movies in a row came out.

:P

[Generic Brad]

49. Star Trek fans can never get enough shitty movies

We keep hoping we will finally be satisfied. But it is never going to happen.

[Symarip]

50. I find it funny that the geeks I know who like Star Wars want less

Less Special Effects. Less Prequels. Less George Lucas.

Trekkies? Forget about it. More movies. More books. More cruise-conventions. More more MORE.

MARCIA MARCIA MARCIA.

[Oeditpus Rex]

48. Because they're, y'know...

geeks? :shrug:

[MrSlayer]

53. Hmm, I didn't know there was a new Star Trek movie coming out.

And now that I do, I'm still not excited about it.

[Connonym]

55. Because I'm a DORK!!!

fair enough?

[Deep13]

58. I'm not getting excited about any movie that will not be out until May 2009.

So I intend to forget about it.