"The Passion" ain't nuthin' but a "Cyborg" remake.

[Jim Sagle]

The only difference is, it's a 90-minute beating instead of a 90-minute fistfight.

[xray s]

1. or maybe 'Terminator'?

Mel should have cast Ah-nold as JC.

[orwell]

2. Gropenator

He's already cast as the Gropenator.

"Remember when I said I would fix Cah-li-forn-ya...I lied"

O

[lucky777]

3. Just Saw it ... As a Jew I am disgusted

We just saw the movie this afternoon. As a Jew I am disgusted by it -- there is not a single positive Jewish character. Pilate comes off as a man with a conscience who reluctantly gives up Jesus after trying to save him several times. His wife is sympathetic to the Jews. The actual Jews come off terribly, just terribly -- giving money to Judas, then denying association with Jesus, begging for him to be crucified. The Jews are violent, dumb, vicious, uneducated. Not a single multi-dimensional or sympathetic Jew. It is pure anti-Semitism.

There is maybe 10 lines of real dialogue in the movie. It is surreal, just violence and blood and s&m. No plot, no background, no teachings. Just a relentless focus on tiny useless details (the types of whips used on Jesus, the specifics of how he was nailed to the cross, 40 slow motion shots of blood like syrup coming out of his mouth as he falls down. It is not really a movie, more like a porno film (really) in obsessive attention to detail w/o any plot.

This movie is medieval nonsense. This movie just shows how stupid and retrograde religion is. This is the 21st Century -- can't we get beyond these myths and fairy-tales that whip people into hatred?????

Shame on Mel Gibson for such a stupid movie.

[stopthegop]

4. Jesus is a Jew..

was He at least a positive character...maybe his mother Mary?

[thinkingwoman]

5. As a Jew

I won't be seeing it. I can't bring myself to watch given all I have read about this already. It's been the main topic of conversation for my family (two teens and non-Jewish spouse) and non of us like what we know about it so far.

I have a question...what is the effect of having a european-looking Jesus juxtaposed with the "Jewish"-looking Jews? Is it the subliminal reinforcement of the stereotypes I would expect?

BTW, thank you for watching and reporting back what you saw. I know I'm not the only one who appreciates it.

[MUAD_DIB]

6. Why is it entitled the Passion?

Does it go into any of his teachings?

[jmowreader]

7. No, it's Jesus getting his ass kicked for two hours

And people are taking their kids to this!

[VOX]

8. Thanks for posting this, lucky777. I'm a gentile who doesn't buy into this

(Jeez, is the word "gentile" even used anymore? It sounds so archaic.) I was baptized as a kid into a pretty liberal Methodist church in L.A. (they held anti-war meetups there last year), but I certainly don't buy into any of this hysterical fundie garbage as peddled by Mr. Gibson and his ilk.

I almost feel a need to apologize for this(?). Please be reassured that for every nutcase that takes this insanity seriously, there are at least 100 (or more) non-Jews who think it's downright silly at the least, and divisive/destructive at worst.

I am in the latter group. This *not* the story of a man's life and work -- it is a sadomasochistic fantasy dreamed up by Mr. Gibson. And I agree that it uses some very destructive, propagandistic stereotypes.

I refuse to see this film now, or even when it comes out on DVD. I do not wish to give a single penny to anyone who created or marketed this travesty.

Best to you, and welcome to DU! :toast:

[aldian159]

9. I thought the same exact thing

and I'm Greek Orthodox. The movie sucked. i was too disgusted to feel emotional like all the reports of the fundies breaking down in the aisles.