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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 01:13 PM
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Is it sexist?
So I was enjoying playing a Bob Marley song, 'Midnight Ravers' and I was thinking about singing it at an open mic. Just curious what you feminists think about these lyrics:


(You can't tell the woman from the man)
No, I say you can't, 'cause they're dressed in the same pollution;
(dressed in the same pollution)
Their mind is confused with confusion
With their problems since they've no solution:
They become the midnight ravers.


Just curious - a sensitivity check on my part.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 01:18 PM
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1. i don't think so...
Edited on Sat Aug-09-03 01:23 PM by noiretblu
if anything, i think it's saying that women are no more or less polluted than men. that's why you can't tell them apart.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 01:21 PM
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2. we agree
Edited on Sat Aug-09-03 01:22 PM by buddhamama
i was thinking the same.
women have been 'forced' to assimilate to make it in the man's world and the term 'midnight ravers' represents the time when women reflect and be themselves.
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 01:33 PM
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3. I think he is singing about how there is an equality
in the level of spiritual degradation between men and women. At least that is what I've always thought.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 01:36 PM
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4. ditto
agreed, roughsatori.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 01:53 PM
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7. I agree with that interpretation however
I agree with that interpretation however let me enunciate the 'possible' sexist interpretation. Which is they he is saying that if there were not such spiritual degradation, women would 'know their place'. Now I'm not saying that that is my interpretation, I'm just playing Devil's Advocate.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 01:56 PM
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8. actually, i think he's saying the opposite
that is, sexism and misogyny make women crazy. and perhaps, the solution is not to emulate men.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 02:00 PM
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9. Different but equal
Different but equal - I so agree.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 02:04 PM
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10. what a concept, huh?
if only we humans could just except that. diversity...just is. no need to tolerate it or attempt to control it to benefit one group or another. if we could just accept it as natural...
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 02:23 PM
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14. You nailed it.
You nailed it. The opposite of intolerance is not tolerance. It's acceptance.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 02:13 PM
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12. do think "midnight ravers"
refers to women being made crazy.

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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 02:15 PM
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13. absolutely
:hi: i can see how that could happen...hell, i have seen that happen.
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AngryYoungMan Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 01:47 PM
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5. Just don't follow it up with "Thong Song"
:)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 01:53 PM
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6. YES AND YOU ARE A SEXIST SOB
I..............ER...................SORRY; it's the HEAT. :(
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 02:12 PM
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11. I am a heterosexual woman who feels like a gay man
when I dress in ruffles and pinks and pumps? Or at least my imagination of what a gay man might feel like in those articles...I say that, but maybe more like how a hetrosexual man feels???

I am a heterosexual woman who feels in her skin when in pants, or a tailored skirt and opaque stockings and flats and a woman's shirt (never a blouse) or a top.
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