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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 08:16 AM
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Do you have any heroes?
If so, who are they?

Terry
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GetBackWorldsRespect Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 08:18 AM
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1. Can you stand freeper logic?
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 08:19 AM by GetBackWorldsRespect
My heroes are those who can stand arguing with freepers:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1085834/posts#2
112 military women have reported sexual assaults or rapes in the Persian Gulf in 18 montha. That is out of more than 60,000 women who are stationed in and around the Gulf with the military.

Compare those numbers to a study released just last week by Harvard that stated “almost one in 20 (4.7 percent) of women reported being raped, and 72 percent of the victims reported being intoxicated while being raped.” So, about 5% of our college women are being raped, not including those who were sexually assaulted, which would make the percentage even higher.

If you apply the 5% number to the 60,000 women stationed in the Gulf, we should be seeing 3,000 reported rapes. But we have only seen 112 according to the New York Times. In other words, our military women are far more safe from sexual assault and rape than our college women. And, by deduction, our military men are far more mature, professional and respectful of women than our college men. But then, we already knew that. Just don’t count on the Times or any other newspaper to report the comparison.
2 posted on 02/26/2004 5:58:35 AM PST by meisterbrewer
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 08:23 AM
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2. I know I'm going to regret asking, but
Is that logic flawed? Are the stats correct? Personally, I think one rape is too many, and is absolutely disgusting and unforgivable. However, is this freeper correct?

What blows my mind, is this freeper is almost excusing the 112 rapes when he says, "only 112" which I think is totally wrong, but what about the rest of his post?
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 09:15 AM
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14. I think that the 112 rapes are in a limited amount of time.
While the 4.7% is in their lifetime. I might be wrong, but that is my understanding.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 06:11 PM
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30. Thank you
That's not something I thought of.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 09:55 AM
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18. "Only 112 rapes in 18 months?"
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 09:56 AM by bushisanidiot
hmmm.. let's use the repuke logic to discuss the clerical sex abuse claims in the last half century.

"only" 10,667 abuse claims over 52 years according to this link: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040227/ap_on_re_us/church_abuse&cid=519&ncid=716

out of how many millions of kids who were not abused by priests? Let's say at least 20 million over 52 years, so that would be .005%. Hmmm.. I guess freepers would call that a pretty good statistic, so I guess all the hype in the news about these priests is just making a mountain out of a molehill.

Idiot misogynistic repukes!
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:11 AM
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23. That pic of Bush in your sig looks like he was beaten by someone...
Maybe Cheney beats the crap out of him every time Bush says something stupid.
Duckie
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 08:28 AM
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3. James Randi
www.randi.org

He's been spot on about the superstitious nonsense that holds us back as a race, and it's fueled the interest I already had in magic so that I can re-produce some of the so-called supernatural effects of psychics, faith healers, and other charlatans to demonstrate to people that more than likely what they're doing is just tricks.

TlalocW
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 08:40 AM
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7. yes..
The Amazing Randi too!
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 08:36 AM
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4. My gramps
He's always been one of my heroes. He was a pilot in WWII and volunteered for glider duty in order to "get in the fight." He flew gliders in the Invasion of the Rhineland. If you're not familiar with the massive glider mission, you should read about it sometime. Very interesting stuff.

After the war, he kept flying. Flew as a test pilot for Spartan Avaition and taught high-school math. Volunteered to go to Korea, but they didn't take him because he was a teacher and active duty guardsman. When Vietnam rolled around, gramps was a Lt. Col in the guard. He ended up flying cargo missions into Vietnam.

In 1962, he and his guys carried out the first "around-the-world" mission for the Tulsa Air National Guard. He was the flight commander on a C-97 that carried cattle from Tulsa to Afghanistan. He retired from the guard in 1976 after over 30 years in a flight suit.

He spends his days doing toast masters, playing golf, running the local Meals-on-Wheels program. He's one of the most caring people I know. He helps others in need, ANYTIME he sees them. He's been doing Meals-on-Wheels since the early 70s. He turned 80 this year, and is still as active as ever. His wife, my grandmother, died in 2002. They traveled all over the world together. With her gone, he still travels the world. Spain last year, Switzerland this year, Hawaii this week!

He's an all around wonderful human being, and if I can turn out to be half the man he did, I'll be happy.

Oh, and he's a republican, can you believe that shit?
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Shanty Oilish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 08:37 AM
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5. Mom
Yeah it's corny. But she was really something.
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 08:39 AM
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6. Noam Chomsky and Barbara Jordan
Linguist and American foreign policy gadfly and the first Black woman
to serve in the US Congress from the South (Texas).
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 08:43 AM
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8. Greg Palast
In my next life I want to be like Greg Palast.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:05 AM
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29. saw him speak about a month ago
What an awesome hero you have there, demnan! :-)
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 08:44 AM
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9. There are so many
Joseph Conrad, Rauld Amundson, Erasmus, Dorthea Dix, Langston Hughs,
Queen Elizabeth 1st, Molly Ivens, Golda Mier, ( sp?), Amelia Earhart, The astronomer Hubble, The movie director Kirosawa, ( sp?),
General Billy Mitchell....Jackie Robenson... it goes on.
Who ever it was that developed the idea of a sterile field for surgury.
John Singer Seargent.
Mandella. Mark Twain. Edith Piaf, (sp?) and also Marlene Dietrich. These are just some of the folks I admire.
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Shanty Oilish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 08:58 AM
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10. Piaf!
Ahhh, Piaf! I have records, tapes, cd's and wavs of the little sparrow. And a biography in paperback, of course :)
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 09:05 AM
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11. George W. Bush....NO, REALLY!
It's nice to know that I'm not the worlds BIGGEST loser.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 09:12 AM
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12. My husband.
He took the chance of taking me back on after our relationship had failed miserably (due to me) as teenagers. He adopted our beautiful daughter. He has seen me through sickness, health, miscarriages and the birth of our beloved boy. He gets up every single day at 4:30 to go off and work for us, so that I could finally stay home. He's a man, a hero, and I adore him.

Leonard if by chance you ever see this...I truly truly admire and love you!!! :loveya:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 09:13 AM
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13. I don't know their names.
They are the people who go about their lives, living with care, and making the world a better place one small service at a time. Those who live with integrity and compassion. Without need for anyone to notice. I don't know them, but I know they are there.

If I had to choose a recognizable name, it would be Gandhi.
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 09:17 AM
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15. My hero right now is Rep. Dennis Kucinich.
He has been abused, ignored, and laughed at and he continues to fight for what is right and what is important.
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jimbo fett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 09:23 AM
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16. Well, I have several who you wouldn't know like certain teachers, etc. but
among the famous I would say that Jimmy Carter was a hero. His presidency was driven by personal convictions and REAL religious beliefs.

He may not have been the best president but he is one of the best men to have ever been president. Look at what he's done since leaving office: habitat for humanity, volunteering to broker peace worldwide, monitoring elections, writing books, etc.

Most presidents when they leave office just retire, never to do anything of consequence ever again. Not Carter. He's done more since retiring than the last 5 presidents put together.
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waterman Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 09:42 AM
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17. Ken Bradshaw, Laird Hamilton and all the big-wave riders out there...

These guys are on moving mountains and when they screw up, it's usually pretty bad. When they don't they are absolute legends!
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:03 AM
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19. Nelson Mandela
Going through what he went through yet continuing to evolve as a compassionate, modern, and sane human being, Mandela has no equal.
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Insider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:05 AM
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20. angela davis
french scholar, soledad sister, professor
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Insider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:10 AM
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22. oprah winfrey
determination, commitment, dedication. a walking tribute to american spirit. unstoppable spirit.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:06 AM
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21. my parents.
.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:11 AM
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24. Helen Thomas & Lance Armstrong
Are a couple of mine
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:13 AM
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25. Andy Partridge, Tommy Douglas, David Hume, Serge Gainsbourg,
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 10:16 AM by Screaming Lord Byron
Tom Baker, Scott Walker, Julian Cope, Kraftwerk, George Harrison, Prince Henry Sinclair, Douglas Coupland, Iain Banks, Wim Wenders, Hal Hartley, Siddhartha Gautama, Charles Darwin, HG Wells, Nelson Mandela, Jerry Dammers, The Pirates of Libertatia.
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FunBobbyMucha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:15 AM
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26. Harry Truman, my friend Michael, my wife.
HST was the finest man to stand in the oval office, Michael was career Navy and protected us from subs for 20 years, and still has more energy than any four other people I know, and my wife is the best person I've ever known, my moral compass, and my best friend.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:17 AM
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27. Yes...
...not in any set order:

Sapphocrat
Newsom
Kucinich
Connie Kurtz, and her partner Ruthie Berman
Dr. Evelyn Hooker
Lisa Ben
Herb Selwyn

That's all I can think of, off the top of my head right now. :)
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:29 AM
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28. Mine:
In no particular order:

My mom

Franklin Kameny

Del Martin and Barbara Lyon

Senator Paul Wellstone

Rosa Parks

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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 06:15 PM
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31. Robert F Kennedy, RFK jr, John F. Kennedy
I'm a Kennedy fan
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 06:18 PM
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32. Carl Sagan; Gen. Smedley Butler; The Founding Dads (except Hamilton)
(Hamilton was the first Bushevik, you know)

Wish there were some that were alive, though.
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Mrs. Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 06:50 PM
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33. My Dad
My dad is one of the kindest, most honorable men who have ever graced this planet. He loves without restraint, still adores my mom after 53 years together (he calls her "my sweetheart"), takes time and effort to assist those in need, and is completely selfless. Last year I asked him what he wanted for Father's Day. His response was, "my needs are met and my wants are few." I wish everyone could have a dad like mine; the world would be a much better place.
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Deb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:05 PM
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34.  Bella Abzug, BBV people and
Keishia Thomas, the newspaper copy of this photo was on our fridge until it faded away. There are too many to name them all.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:13 PM
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35. Yes, myself. I'm my own hero
The hero lies in you.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:33 PM
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36. Thomas Jefferson, Mark Twain, Emerson, Gordon Lightfoot
Jefferson for giving me the freedom to believe what I do.

Mark Twain for giving us Huck Fin which changed the way Americans saw blacks and for being so dam witty and smart.

Emerson for his contributions to free thought and brilliant philosophy's about individualism and celebrating those who are nonconformists.

Gordon Lightfoot for dam good folk music with a positive message.

I have a million heroes.
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