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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 09:15 PM
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I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry
"Hear the lonesome whiperwill
He sounds too blue to fly
The midnight train is whining low
Im so lonesome I could cry

Ive never seen a night so long
When time goes crawling by
The moon just went behind a cloud
To hide its face and cry

Did you ever see a robin weep
When leaves begin to die
That means hes lost the will to live
Im so lonesome I could cry

The silence of a falling star
Lights up a purple sky
And as I wonder where you are
Im so lonesome I could cry"



http://www.lyricsfreak.com/h/hank+williams/im+so+lonesome+i+could+cry_20064142.html

:cry: :cry:
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 09:30 PM
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1. I have a story about that song
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 09:31 PM by Droopy
I used to get very depressed sometimes and I would do the one thing that you are not supposed to do when you are depressed and drink heavily. There used to be this little neighborhood bar just down the street and I would walk in there with a pretty good beer buzz already going, order a shot and a beer, then walk over to the juke box and play that song. I think it's the saddest song in the world, but it still manages to be beautiful at the same time.

People would probably have to go to the bathroom and do another line of cocaine after I got done with the juke box. :)

Are you doing ok, elshiva?
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 09:36 PM
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2. Thank you for that story, Droopy.
I just feel very lonely right now. :cry: :hug:
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 09:38 PM
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3. I know the feeling
:hug:
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 09:48 PM
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4. Oh sweetie...
:hug:

I put up another drinkin' & Loungin' thread. You want to hang out there? I can't guarantee the same turnout as last night. Not as much booze...
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 09:52 PM
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5. Thank you, honey.
:hug: :hug:

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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 09:53 PM
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6. Merciful heavens!
Major gorgeousness there. :wow:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 09:56 PM
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7. Do you know who she is?
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:05 PM
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8. Nope. But I hope you're going to tell me, so can see her movie, or watch her TV show
or read her blog, or drink her bathwater...(not really...yuck! Why do people say that?)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:15 PM
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9. Here we are:
Morena Baccarin as Inara Serra "The Companion" (prostitute of the 26th century) in the tv show "Firefly" and the movie "Serenity." In the future, prostitution is legal and she serves both men and women.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Operative#The_Operative
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:18 PM
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10. Wow. Astoundingly beautiful.
And Brazilian. Very exotic. *swoon* (Is it okay for guys to swoon?)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:24 PM
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12. Yes, it's okay for guys to swoon.


She makes me so wet.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:25 PM
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14. Me too.
...wait...

...Oh, you know what I mean! :P
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:29 PM
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16. No, I don't know what you mean.
Did you spill your water on your shirt or something? ;)
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:37 PM
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19. Yeah...that's what I did. Yeah...water on my shirt...
:crazy:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:40 PM
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20. Inara could lick the water off your shirt.
:)
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:41 PM
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22. Nah. I wouldn't make her do that.
I'd take my shirt off first. :evilgrin:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:46 PM
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23. Then she could lick the water off your chest.
:)
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:50 PM
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24. Oh, most definitely.
That must sound a little disrespectful, but hey, it's a fantasy... B-)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:53 PM
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25. It's not disrespectful
Some women love to lick men's chests. For example, I like to do that... :evilgrin:
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:56 PM
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27. Oh my...
That sounds like fun!...
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:05 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. Yes, it can be very fun.
Have you ever tried it? :evilgrin:
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:07 PM
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29. Oh, now and then.
I never say no to an offer.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:08 PM
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30. Oh, my!
I'll have to pm you. Okay?
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:10 PM
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32. I'll be waiting...
B-)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:29 PM
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33. I just pmed you okay?
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. Messages received.
So now what do you want to talk about?
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:49 PM
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35. I'd like to talk about a problem that I have.
I try to hook people, especially male DUers, with pictures of scantily clothed ladies so that they will pay attention to me. Sorry. :(
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:50 PM
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36. I was paying attention to you even before you posted the ladies.
I'm intrigued by your user name. It sounds like a cross between Arabic and Hindi.

But the ladies are nice, too. ;-)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #36
38. Thank you, but I want people to love me for myself.
Not just because I give them free porn.

Thank you, the name is garbled version of my Hebrew name "Elesheva." A nun wrote it out as "elshiva."
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:05 AM
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39. Oh that's cool!
Beautiful name. Does it mean "God's-something"?
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:09 AM
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40. "God of the Seven."
El is "god" and "shiva" is seven. Sitting shiva is sitting seven days in mourning after someone has died.

Also, did you know that today after the sun goes down is Rosh Hashanah?
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:10 AM
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41. Good Yom Tov!
:-)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:17 AM
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42. Thanks I'm half-Jewish.
Dad and his family is Jewish, but my mom's side is christian. I'm an atheist, but I think it's good to celebrate holidays, especially the happy ones.

Happy Jew New Year!
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:19 AM
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43. I know a little about Judaism because I thought about converting back in
1992 or '93. I was a tanker in the Army, and I wanted to go to Israel and crew tanks with the best tankers in the world.

It was a phase...
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:24 AM
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44. Does Israel really have the best tankers in the world?
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:27 AM
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45. That's the conventional wisdom among tankers.
They certainly have one of the best tanks in the world, the Merkava. I'd have given my right arm to crew that machine.

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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:30 AM
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46. What are your thoughts on
the Israeli/Palestinian conflict?
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:32 AM
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48. Well, I don't really support either side, as long as they are killing each other
instead of talking to each other. But I have some sympathies for the Palestinians. They don't have a conventional army like Israel, so of course their resistance manifests itself either as rock-throwing kids, or acts of terror. It's an intractable problem.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:40 AM
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49. I support the state of Israel, which means that I don't
hold them above or below any other nation. They make a lot mistakes and do a lot of things militarily that I'm not proud of, but I support Israel's right to exist. At the same time, Palestianians are good people, basically too. I think they deserve their own state.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:30 AM
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47. DUPE
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 12:30 AM by elshiva
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #24
26. Dupe
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 10:54 PM by elshiva
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:29 PM
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15. : )
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. That's Kaylee not Inara, but yes,
she is hot, too.

I was so glad that she finally got it on with Simon. What a sweet couple. :loveya:
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 09:32 AM
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57. We like Kaylee too!
Shiny!



Actually, I think I like Kaylee better than Inara.
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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:28 AM
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59. I love Kaylee
One of the ex's didn't. She loves Firefly, but has this irrational hatred for Kaylee...

Is it wrong that that was a factor in my breaking up with her?
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #59
60. The Kaylee Factor is a well-documented phenomenon.
One should always feel free to use it as appropriate.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:39 PM
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69. I LOVE KAYLEE
Simon and Kaylee goof around on a couch:



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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #57
61. I was always more of a River fan...




She's just so cute and innocent, with that touch of homocidal psychosis.

I find that very endearing.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #61
62. A "touch?"
Also, I can kill you with my brain.

:scared:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #62
64. Okay, a decent sized chunk.
Still, cute. :P
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #61
67. She's only homocidal and psychotic because they tortured
her. I love Simon for saving her.






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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:37 PM
Response to Reply #67
68. Played with Kaylee. The sun came out, and I walked on my feet and heard with my ears.
I ate the bits, the bits that stay down and I work, I f-function like I'm a girl. I hate it because I know it'll go away! The sun grows dark and chaos has come again. It's... fluids. What am I?
Simon: You are my beautiful sister.
River Tam: I-I threw up on your bed.
Simon: Yep. Definitely my sister.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:48 PM
Response to Reply #68
71. I LOVE SIMON!
:loveya:






I love the older brother/younger sister dynamic in Whedon, think Xander or Spike with Dawn or Angel with Cordelia in "Angel." Just a sweet, protective bond.
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coyotespaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:44 AM
Response to Reply #15
50. She so looks like Jenna Haze...
of course, I've been drinking, and watching some of Jenna Haze's movies...
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:26 PM
Response to Reply #7
66. Oh, dayum.
Where do I get me one of THOSE?

:tonguehangingonfloor:
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:18 PM
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11. Join me Under the Boardwalk
We'll peoplewatch and such ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTaezRYr9tw

:hug:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:24 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. ....
Thank you. :hug:
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:30 PM
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17. ....
:hug:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:40 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. You're awesome, Ava.
:hug:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:09 PM
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31. I love that song!
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npk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:52 PM
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37. Great now I am going to be humming that song all night long.
Thanks elshiva :silly:
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coyotespaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:45 AM
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51. All other songs wish they could be as awesome as that song.
n/t
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:57 AM
Response to Reply #51
52. Is that what Sam the American Bald Eagle thinks?
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coyotespaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:05 AM
Response to Reply #52
53. While I'm sure he'd agree with me...
that is solely the opinion of the most jaded karaoke dj. I have yet to hear a song that manages to capture a sense of mourning for lost love so completely; especially considering that at the time that was written, a man could be shot in the crotch with a shotgun at point blank range, and would be considered a wuss if he cried.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #53
54. I know, I think it says that it's okay for a man to cry.
That's why I like it so much.
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coyotespaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:16 AM
Response to Reply #54
55. True, I cried when my dog died
when I was 15, but the impact of the title has lost a bit of oomph given the emasculation of modern man in the 49 years since the song came out.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:22 AM
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56. What do you mean by the "emasculation of modern man?"
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blueraven95 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:22 AM
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58. hey hun,
I hope you're not still feeling lonely.

:hug: :hug:

:hi:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #58
65. I'm not feeling lonesome now.
Thank you. :hug:
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #65
70. Glad to hear it. How are you tonight, elshiva?
:hi:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:52 PM
Response to Reply #70
72. I'm good. It's Rosh Hashanah! YIPPPEEE!
:hug: How are you? Happy NEW YEAR!
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:57 PM
Response to Reply #72
73. Happy New Year to you!
:party:

Night #3 alone. It's good to have a friend to talk to. :-)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #73
75. I'll talk to you, hon. What do you want
to talk about?
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #75
76. I'm open. We were talking about the Israeli/Palestinian divide.
Not exactly a light topic to brighten an evening, so I defer to your conversational brilliance... :think:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #76
77. I'd rather not talk about that. What was it like to be a tanker?
Do you mind talking about that?
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #77
79. Not at all. I loved it. Absolutely loved it. That surprised everyone who knows me.
I'm not a very aggressive person. I'm not into John Wayne posturing and tough talk. But when I saw the M1 Abrams tank for the first time, I went nuts. I said: 'That's what I want to do!" Four of the most exciting years of my life. I'm still fascinated by military hardware, which also sort of bugs me because I'm fairly pacifistic. There's a right time and a wrong time to go to war. There really hasn't been a right time for us since 1945. There was some justification for the first Gulf War, but essentially it was just to protect the oil.

Here are a couple of pics:

Me in the driver seat (or "hole") of my tank:



Me with my tank crew in the Gulf, February 1991. I'm on the right:



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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:44 PM
Response to Reply #79
80. Nice pictures, thank you.
:) What was the justification, do you think for the gulf war, besides oil? I was only 10 or so when that was going on.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:52 PM
Response to Reply #80
81. Well, there is no denying that Saddam Hussein was a brutal, tyrannical aggressor
invading a sovereign nation like that. There's a rumor that Hussein called Bush Sr. up not long before the invasion to let him know it was coming. They were old buddies going back to the U.S. support for Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war. The rumor was that Saddam ask for Bush's "blessing", as it were, for the invasion, which he claimed was in retribution for Kuwait "slant-drilling" across the border into Iraqi oil fields. Bush Sr. said "no problem". And then had to go back on that when world opinion went against Iraq's invasion.

Whatever the truth of it, the West wanted to protect its supply of Kuwaiti oil. The fact that Kuwait was, and still is, an ultra-conservative, autocratic Muslim monarchy was ignored.

I'm glad you liked the pics. :-)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:58 PM
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82. Yes, Saddam was a crazy man.
My big memory from that time was a fellow girl scout in my troop saying, "Saddam Insane I hope he chokes on a bomb." I think even at that age we knew he was up to no good. I am glad that he is dead.

It's too bad that Kuwait is still a monarchy. :(

Are you retired now?
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 12:07 AM
Response to Reply #82
83. Not retired in the sense the military uses. Retired means 20 or more years of service,
with a pension. I did four years active duty, three years in the reserves and a year of inactive service. All I got when I got out of the Army was a handshake and a free cup of coffee.

Over in Iraq, they've switched from fielding the Abrams to using the Stryker, which is more like a wheeled armored personnel carrier. But still, if they wanted to send me back, they'd need a plane big enough for me and the telephone pole I'd be holding on to. B-)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 12:10 AM
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84. So are you now a pacifist?
I notice you have a peace symbol in your sig line. What are your views on the current Iraq situation?
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 12:16 AM
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86. The less said about the current war in Iraq, the better.
Conflicts like the Civil War and WWII were certainly justifiable. But ever since the National Defense Act of 1947 "corporatized" warfare, it's been one bloody, unconscionable slaughter after another. All in the service of profitable defense contracts. Even Eisenhower, a Republican President, warned against the military-industrial complex. He must be rolling over in his grave.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 12:23 AM
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87. My paternal grandfather, who is still alive and is Jewish,
fought in WWII in the South Pacific as a Seabee. He is against this war for the same reasons you said, he is also a Democrat. My dad was a conscientious objector during the Vietnam War. He refused to even carry a gun when they drafted him into the navy. He did get out of it eventually, but he had to wash and paint a ship before hand.

What is your opinion of the Vietnam conflict?
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 12:28 AM
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88. Same basic idea, only with Vietnam, we got into it by inches,
instead of the headlong leap we took in 2003. My hatred for the Vietnam war stems mostly from the way it kind of killed my dad inside. I was born while he was over there. He was an OR Tech at an evacuation hospital, and the horrors he saw there fundamentally changed him inside, according to my mother. This pic can give you sort of an idea of what he went through. It was taken after 36 straight hours of mass-casualty surgery in May, 1968:

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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 12:35 AM
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89. Sorry, that is awful.
:hug: :hug: :hug: I am sorry your father had to go through that.

My dad always said that the upper officers liked to threaten him about being a CO, and say, "Shut up or you're going on gun boat." In the long run, my dad had it easy. It's a tragedy what Vietnam did to the soldiers.... :(

Is your father still alive?
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 12:39 AM
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90. Yes, he's alive and kicking. He's recovering from pancreatic cancer right now.
I think he kicked its ass. Pancreatic cancer has about a 7% survival rate, but his last test came back clean. He's a tough old buzzard. B-)

BTW, Seabees rock! Those guys could build anything!
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 12:49 AM
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91. Seabees are great.
Grandpa gets together with his "old navy buddies" as he calls it. Yes, it was a lot of building. He usually just talks about some of the rare fun times like when he climbed a coconut tree so he could get a better view of Bob Hope when he visiting the troops. He always likes to put a happy face on things, I'm sure it was difficult for him. I think a big reason for why he fought in that war was because he was Jewish.

I am pacifist. I really think we have to try harder not to get into the wars. As you said, the Seabees built anything. It's more important to be constructive than destructive.

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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 12:53 AM
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92. Amen to that.
I remember my Dad was always telling funny stories about Vietnam to us kids. (Me, my brother and my sister.) That's what Vietnam was to us for a long time: "funny stories". Then one time when we were older, he told us the truth of it, then burst into tears. We were shocked.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 12:57 AM
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93. I am sorry. :(
War is so gruesome, I can't even imagine. :(

My grandpa never tells us anything negative. The closest thing he got to that was saying that he knew when his crew would be in danger when they served the best food.

I think it's difficult to talk about the danger and the fear that you face, isn't it?
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 01:01 AM
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94. I don't mind saying I felt scared for a while in the Gulf that I might die.
My unit never got into combat, but our base was Scudded once. In the back of my mind, there was this thought: Man, this is REAL! I could actually get killed!

Well, I think I'm going to go to bed now, elshiva. Got to get up early for school. Thanks for talking... :hug:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 01:04 AM
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95. Goodnight.
:hug: Nice talking to you, friend.
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blueraven95 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 12:13 AM
Response to Reply #65
85. oh good!
l'shanah tova. I hope your new year is happy and healthy.

:hug:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 01:06 AM
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96. Thank you. Happy 5769. :)
:hug: Are you Jewish? I am half-Jewish, my dad's Jewish.
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blueraven95 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 09:10 AM
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97. I am Jewish
:hi:


:hug:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 09:45 PM
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98. AWESOME!
:hug: :hi:
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 09:28 PM
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63. Ugh, I know the feeling all too well.
:hug:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:59 PM
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74. I love that song so much.
I used to play it on my flute a long, long time ago.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:22 PM
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78. That's great.
:yourock: :hug:
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